Of course they are a copy of a beautiful product!Those are two beautiful notebooks. In my opinion.
Of course they are a copy of a beautiful product!Those are two beautiful notebooks. In my opinion.
Windows 10 > MacOS
Only haters will say anything different.
I use Windows 10 and Mac OS, and while W10 did huge leap from other windows and it is a very good os, it is still behind... Mac OS would be my choice anyday.
Not a hater as really like windows 10, but to say that is better than Mac OS is delusional at best!
Is that not how it's been going for a few years now... the sense of what was formally derided as copycats making inferior tech to the copycats appearing to "catch up..." and then step ahead? I recall "us" deriding NFC when copycats added it. I recall us pounding away at "gimmicks" that "99% don't want" such as waterproofing and wireless charging; but now we spin rationalization for jettisoning headphone jacks due to those very same benefits. I recall us ripping into competitors with more than one model of anything with "fragmentation" and the miseries therein for their programmers. The infamous "10th anniversary iPhone" getting features like a curved screen, OLED screens, etc have us looking forward to stuff the copycats already have too.
I think you are exactly right here. Apple used to have this halo of being out front which now feels like that's mostly lost and they need to catch up all across the product lines. It wasn't necessarily because they really were out front but more so because they proved pretty good at putting hardware together in ways that had "enough" to give us all something to bite into (pay up... and rationalize how much we paid). Now, "we" seem to be increasingly stretching the spin to try to rationalize sticking around... "because Apple isn't usually first, but they do it right."
Hopefully whatever has seemed to be distracting Apple for the last few years is about to roll out. OR, hopefully Apple leadership starts feeling the heat and delegates more decision-making authority to others more focused on updating the individual products in the lines. Either way, competition is good. Seeing what could be and pressures of falling sales can sometimes light fires to at least be more competitive. Else, goodwill and brand loyalty can only be ridden so far. Ignore the lines too long and the new money will start flowing somewhere else (see countless popular brands before that roared toward the top and then appeared to stall).
Ummm...yeah. If it's so great, why does Microsoft force it on everyone?
They don't. Show me one case of OS X automatically installing itself without user authorization? Yeah, you can't.Same reason Apple does. Adoption. Oh wait, you actually think apple doesn't do that? Please, tell me how I can tell iOS or OSX to stop bothering me to update.
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Chinese smartphone manufacturer Xiaomi had a surprise in store for attendees of its new Redmi Pro smartphone launch event today, unveiling its first ever PC laptop, named the "Mi Notebook Air".
The familiar-named $750 aluminum notebook closely resembles a MacBook and features a 13.3-inch 1080p display, up to 2.7GHz Intel Core i5-6200U processor, 8GB RAM, 256GB solid-state storage, and a discrete Nvidia GeForce 940MX graphics card.
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Connectivity-wise, there's a USB-C port included for charging, 2x USB 3.0 ports, 1x HDMI, and a headphone jack. Xiaomi claimed a 9.5 hour battery life for the notebook, which weighs 2.82 pounds.
The company also announced a smaller 12.5-inch (2.36 pounds) model with an Intel Core M3 CPU, 4GB RAM, a 128GB SSD, and integrated graphics, costing $540 in total. Both laptops have a full-size backlit keyboard. The Windows-installed machines will be available in China from August 2, but no details regarding global availability have been given.
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According to CNET, Xiaomi partner Tian Mi will manufacture the Mi Notebook Air. Rumors that the smartphone maker was seeking to enter the PC laptop market have been bubbling for a while, and its unapologetically titled debut offering leaves no doubt the company is seeking to emulate - not to mention compete against - Apple in the Chinese market, albeit in the form of a more budget-conscious package.
Xiaomi saw flat revenues last year, with the struggling smartphone sector making up 90 percent of its sales. The move shows the company sees untapped potential in the Chinese consumer notebook market despite suggestions that it may be on the verge of contracting, which indicates the company is also willing to take a risk as it attempts to justify its $45 billion valuation.
Article Link: Xiaomi Surprises With MacBook Lookalike 'Mi Notebook Air'
People sometimes forget the millions that they pour into software development and then GIVE AWAY for free as part of the package. If you had to purchase software to match what a Mac comes with, you'd be at or above that price range, easy... if that software even existed and worked as well.
They don't. Show me one case of OS X automatically installing itself without user authorization? Yeah, you can't.
Relative cons:
Relative pros:
- not retina,
- not running OSX or macOS,
- 0.79LBS heavier,
- no Apple branding (but space for an Apple sticker is available)
- article doesn't share "thinner" but I'm guessing it's not quite as thin (and I know that is a paramount concern for all of us),
- includes the "antiquated"
headphone jack instead of a proprietary lightning jack
Is this basically a more powerful MB at MBair pricing (albeit without OS X)?
- much more powerful processor,
- multiple standard ports (without needing an adapter),
- discrete graphics processor,
- slightly larger screen (in either model),
- about half the price of MB,
- includes the thoroughly ubiquitous standard headphone jack, no adapters required
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Applecare for MB $249 vs. Cost of a new MI (starting at about) $540
Obvious troll is obvious.Windows 10 > MacOS
Only haters will say anything different.
I want to be angry at this company and this product, but it's a darn leap nicer and cheaper than most OEMs are shipping today. So credit to their CMD+C/CMD+V designers.
The only issue would be the warranty, really. I imagine it would be a colossal pain to get it returned/repaired in the event of hardware failure.
If they ran the same OS I would agree, the thing that makes me buy Apple is not to show off how much i have (wich is very little!!!) but to have something that works as expected I look at the cost, and the Cost / Value ratio is a lot better on a Mac, so yes they cost more, but their value is higher!As they're both build in China it's the more obvious for me that Apple is becoming the Prada and Gucci of the computer industry. You buy a brand and by buying Apple you can show off how successful you are by not having to look at the cost. Apple computer the brand where I used to be very proud of is losing their soul as a company and only hunting for profits today.
My mi 5 disagrees.In my opinion, the only thing Xiaomi truly rips off perfectly is Apple's product presentation.
The products themselves are not even close in fit, finish, thoughtfulness. They're basically taking a design masterpiece and making a cheap knock-off. Looks similar only from a distance, as you get closer it's really disappointing. Then again, it's way cheaper than Apple stuff so one shouldn't be surprised - the cost savings have to come from somewhere.
I expect these notebooks to be no different.
I have held and inspected various Mi phones and this was true for every one of them. Next to an iPhone, they're crap - doesn't compare.
I bought a Xiaomi power bank, or two - the 5,000 maH version, and the 10k version. They're OK - nothing is horribly wrong with them. But they are not nearly as nice as they look in the promo shots, and they are very obviously not Apple products - there's blinky LEDs where there shouldn't be, weird buttons, sharp aluminium corners that, in hindsight, make these a usability nightmare (they scratch up your phone - whoops!).
The point is, in the promo shots these looks like Apple products. In real life, they look like any random chinese product.
Apple is not innovating anymore, and it shows, competitors are copying "old products" and "old products names" nowadays....
It looks amazing, nothing like a macbook! macbooks have one port.. This even has a HDMI!!!
wow.. Fire Tim and get these people working for Apple!
Ummm...yeah. If it's so great, why does Microsoft force it on everyone?
I will have to agree mostly agree... The battery on Apple laptops is mostly adequate. My Early 2011 MBP still holds enough charge to do 5 hours of work after 596 cycles. I've never had a laptop battery go that distance before, ever.
I don't think for a second that it's magic, it's probably the OS getting better at power management and Apple probably sourced good batteries (least they could do for the price, am I right?)
As soon as these Xiaomi's hit Aliexpress, I'm getting one and retiring my MBP. I'm done with Macs, this one put the nail in that coffin. (Unless Apple puts out something that I don't have to compromise to use)
Apple products MUST get thinner. If functionality has to be reduced in pursuit of this goal so be it, because Apple products MUST get thinner.
If you haven't noticed this then you haven't been paying attention.
Is that not how it's been going for a few years now... the sense of what was formally derided as copycats making inferior tech to the copycats appearing to "catch up..." and then step ahead? I recall "us" deriding NFC when copycats added it. I recall us pounding away at "gimmicks" that "99% don't want" such as waterproofing and wireless charging; but now we spin rationalization for jettisoning headphone jacks due to those very same benefits. I recall us ripping into competitors with more than one model of anything with "fragmentation" and the miseries therein for their programmers. The infamous "10th anniversary iPhone" getting features like a curved screen, OLED screens, etc have us looking forward to stuff the copycats already have too.
I think you are exactly right here. Apple used to have this halo of being out front which now feels like that's mostly lost and they need to catch up all across the product lines. It wasn't necessarily because they really were out front but more so because they proved pretty good at putting hardware together in ways that had "enough" to give us all something to bite into (pay up... and rationalize how much we paid). Now, "we" seem to be increasingly stretching the spin to try to rationalize sticking around... "because Apple isn't usually first, but they do it right."
What I was referring to was how Microsoft forces Windows 10 onto current Windows users who don't have it installed. People come back in the morning to find Win10 installed on their machines without their permission.Not the best argument.
By your logic, OS X is crap because Apple only sells Macs with OS X.
Microsoft doesn't force anyone to run Windows. Manufacturers choose to offer Windows with their machines. Mostly because it is the most popular operating system and therefore helps to sell computers.
You are free to use any operating system you like on your PC.
Yeah longevity and length of use have always been a strong point for MacBooks. To be fair to Apple, the noise on the forums suggests that their iOS devices are poor with battery, but that's not the case either.
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Agree with the price thing, I'm happy to pay a premium if a company can delivery clear benefits.
Not yet for me. The price and specs on paper are great. But hows the build quality, how well engineered is it for heat dissipation and sustained performance, how well does the trackpad work (a very strong point for MacBooks IMO), how does the claimed battery life align with real world tests (Apple often does very well here, but I've seen some poor performances from Windows PC makers). Time will tell us no doubt.
Also I say not yet, but even if the hardware was perfect then for my personal devices I probably couldn't ditch the Apple ecosystem just yet. I really like the Continuity and Handoff features that being in the MacOS - iOS - tvOS - wacthOS ecosystem brings. I like iCloud for backing up my device, pictures, bookmarks, passwords etc. across my devices. I like the choice on iOS of having both Apple and Google services. Looking forward to having Apple Watch unlock my MacBook with macOS Sierra. etc, etc. All these things can be done on other platforms, but it's just not as well implemented for me.
Looks like it's you that hasn't been paying attention. iPad 3rd Gen, iPhone 3G, iPhone 6s. They don't always get thinner over the previous gen, it's not always a "MUST". Battery life, weight, dimensions, features etc. it's not as black and white as thinner or bust.
In a wider sense the entire industry trend has been with thinner products. As a general rule battery life in my thinner Apple products is on par with or exceeds the older thicker products whilst being better looking and easier to handle. I'd have issue if they were way behind the industry standards on battery, but they're not.
If you've been around Apple any length of time you'd know this was always the case since Steve's return in 1998. Apple never leads new product areas. iMac, iPod, iPhone, iPad. Theses were product categories that already existed. Apple merely turned up later to the party and improved what was out there. iPod, iPhone, iPad all had plenty of negative views - even on Mac enthusiast sites (some of it justified).
I mean who on earth with any sense would not want the things you list - NFC, waterproofing, or proper wireless charging (not of this plugged in pad stuff). Some people are such blind fanboys that they'll deride competitors for the sake of it. As an Apple and tech fan in general I've always wanted those things. However there are also fair reasons for not being first - early OLED screens were poor. Just like early 4G phones had appalling battery life (even plugged in the HTC Evo 4G would drain battery whilst using the maps app in the car). Sometimes it's good to wait. Other times you have to wait due to supply bottlenecks for certain components - you can't just pick up the phone and ask for 250 million OLED screens for example (the logistics of switching major components in the iPhone is crazy to think about).
People have been saying "the copycats" have been catching up and overtaking Apple for years and years and years. iPod killers, iPhone killers, iPad killers, MacBook killers. Different year, same headlines. Yet customer satisfaction shows Apple are doing just fine. For some users the competitors version will be better. For others Apple's will. Just have to weigh up your own use cases.