iPhone XR XR screen quality v competitors

[Garemlin]

Ok since it's gonna be a week until we see one in hand I had to test for myself. I broke out my girlfriends old iPhone 6s and loaded up a Sony 4k demo video. Obviously it's not playing at 4k, but the video looked more than fine for a small screen. In fact looked pretty damn detailed and not fuzzy in the least. I'm sure the XR screen will be a much improved display. I don't forsee any disappointment. Speaking for myself of course.

I think people have just become spoiled by the over saturated look of OLED and expect everything to look like it. There is nothing wrong with a good quality LCD display. Why do you think even Samsung's upper tier sets are still LCD?

 

[PBz]

How about difference in text clarity? 7 or 8 to 8+ or X line.

 

[err404]

How about difference in text clarity? 7 or 8 to 8+ or X line.

We already know this. The XR will have the same text clarity as the 7/8 when viewed at the same distance. However you may use It slightly further away due it the larger size.
The 8+ uses a down sampled display that is slightly softer than the specs would imply. And the X is a pentile subpixle with the smallest channels dpi about the same as the XR. Like the 8+, the X is slightly less sharp then the raw DPI implies.

 

[Hernan4651]

Ok since it's gonna be a week until we see one in hand I had to test for myself. I broke out my girlfriends old iPhone 6s and loaded up a Sony 4k demo video. Obviously it's not playing at 4k, but the video looked more than fine for a small screen. In fact looked pretty damn detailed and not fuzzy in the least. I'm sure the XR screen will be a much improved display. I don't forsee any disappointment. Speaking for myself of course.

I think people have just become spoiled by the over saturated look of OLED and expect everything to look like it. There is nothing wrong with a good quality LCD display. Why do you think even Samsung's upper tier sets are still LCD?

People are not spoiled, it's like Lcd TFT vs Lcd IPS . If you look a Tft screen after owning an IPS or OLED it looks washed out and ugly. It's inherent to new technology. I have a lot of examples: 720p was great until 1080p came out, and so on. The 2013 Mustang was insane at that time but now looks old.
BTW I think you are wrong. Best products from Samsung are OLED.

 

[Garemlin]

People are not spoiled, it's like Lcd TFT vs Lcd IPS . If you look a Tft screen after owning an IPS or OLED it looks washed out and ugly. It's inherent to new technology. I have a lot of examples: 720p was great until 1080p came out, and so on. The 2013 Mustang was insane at that time but now looks old.
BTW I think you are wrong. Best products from Samsung are OLED.

Actually I'm not wrong. Samsung's high end sets are QLED. Which is an LCD panel. Samsung doesn't make an OLED set yet.

 

[rockitdog]

If Android OEMs can put out phones that are 1080 displays for $500 there's no reason that Apple cannot give better displays at $750, and don't get me started on a decent charging brick for that price... Apple used to be about innovation and give customers the best experience possible, and now it seems like they are more about giving customers the bare minimum (no headphone adapter, no quick charging brick and a sub-standard display) for a premium price point because they know their customers will buy their products no matter what.

 

[NBAasDOGG]

My problem is not the 720p display, my problem is charging waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much for a ****** display.

 

[rockitdog]

The XR does have low resolution for a 2018 phone or iPhone. The XR is by no means an entry level phone at an entry level price. Nor has apple stated this. The XR is being priced at the normal prices held by the 6,7 or 8. Yet the 8 plus came with a 5.5" LCD display and had 10800 x 1920 resolution. I also will reserve judgement until I see the phone with my own eyes, but it is disappointing that the display is a downgrade while you get the better processor, True Depth Camera, FaceID, Wireless charging....

It is an entry level phone. Apple will never come out and say it's there for customers who want a cheaper option. It also is there to make people consider stepping up into their more premium option when you compare the two side by side...

 

[akash.nu]

If Android OEMs can put out phones that are 1080 displays for $500 there's no reason that Apple cannot give better displays at $750, and don't get me started on a decent charging brick for that price... Apple used to be about innovation and give customers the best experience possible, and now it seems like they are more about giving customers the bare minimum (no headphone adapter, no quick charging brick and a sub-standard display) for a premium price point because they know their customers will buy their products no matter what.

NOT AGAIN! Going back in circles about this apple being an evil corporation crap! Come on man!

 

[cardfan]

Bottom line people will rationalize all day long to save a few hundred. 720p? That’s fine. Less ram? Ok it equals 2017 X. One camera? Well fine. Pixel only has one. No 3D Touch? Well I never used that.

And it goes on. It’s all good but I think apple cuts too much on it and if smaller it might be worthwhile. Value wise I’d rather spend a few extra hundred and get a better iPhone. XS/XS Max resales for more so it’s not a big deal.

If you’re a diehard apple fan you usually want the best quality anyways. Not compromises which defines the XR. The SE on the other hand actually outperformed every iPhone at SE launch. It was by far their best value iPhone ever and I’m still kinda shocked they did the SE at the time.

 

[rockitdog]

NOT AGAIN! Going back in circles about this apple being an evil corporation crap! Come on man!

Geez, you don't need to be an Apple apologist. I never called them evil, good grief. Take your Apple colored glasses off an look at what they are providing their customers with at certain price points and look at what others provide theirs for much less. Facts don't care about your feelings!

 

[Hernan4651]

Actually I'm not wrong. Samsung's high end sets are QLED. Which is an LCD panel. Samsung doesn't make an OLED set yet.

Lol, you can't match Quantum dots to Lcd.
If you look at the specs, they replace the lc with quantum dots. It's like saying that the a12 is equal to an snapdragon because both are processors.
And the only reason Samsung is using Qled instead of OLed is the price. If we use the Apple logic that something better is expensive than something cheaper we could stablish that: LCD<QLED<OLED

 

[PBz]

I can’t wait to see the XR in-person. Since the X I have wanted something a tad wider than the X. For me, the XSM is too big and feels unbalanced in the hand. I don’t have small hands. Not a small guy.

The ONLY thing that gives me pause about the XR is the screen and is it small(er) enough than the 8+ I have. Will 720P be good enough for video for me? I didn’t love video on the 8. Will the text be clear enough for me? I can tell a difference in density/darkness of text between the 8 and 8+. I will say I have a level of tolerance as the rest of the specs are awesome.

I prefer the single lens. I never zoom and other than that the zoom just introduces data into the images that I prefer wasn’t there. I don’t like ‘math’ blending of my pictures. The battery life will be amazing.

 

[Closingracer]

Tbh if I got the phone for free or a deep discount like paying $300 for it then the screen is fine. If I didn’t have an Apple Watch I would just rather buy a Galaxy S9 for $100 some odd more based solely off MSRP prices of course with no discounts. The screen isn’t god awful bad some people want to claim but it’s not good either. It’s just meh ok. With the screen so close to your face it’s ok. People loved to complain about the 6,6s,7 and 8 720p+ screen but I went from a 6 plus to a 7 and was perfectly fine with it

 

[1144557]

Yet I would guess most homes own a 1080p TV in 40-70 inches, under 50PPI (even a 4k TV over 40 inches is under 100PPI, 1/3rd of an iphone) yet complain about "only" 828p 326PPI on a tiny 6 inch phone display The irony.

And 828p (it's NOT 720p, sheesh at least Google the specs its 1792x828, FAR more than 1280x720) has it's advantages. Battery life being the #1.

If they could decrease the Max resolution to 1080 instead of in the middle between 1080 and QHD (it sits at 2,688x1,242) and get another 1 hour battery life I'd be ALL for it.

 

[Caspavio]

Geez, you don't need to be an Apple apologist. I never called them evil, good grief. Take your Apple colored glasses off an look at what they are providing their customers with at certain price points and look at what others provide theirs for much less. Facts don't care about your feelings!

yes apple can give a better screen and faster charging brick., but they dont have to. you ever heard of vertu? their phones costs at least 5 figures and it's a lot worse than most smartphones. so between the spectrum of chinese OEM to vertu, apple is simply just closer to vertu.

and you said a statement that trumps whatever point anyone can make poor apple design: they know their customers will buy their products no matter what. their ability to lock you in their ecosystem is exactly why they are entitled to charge 750 for whatever. afterall, everyone is a willing customer.

if you look towards any other products, like laptops, television. the highest end models also cost a bomb. it's the price for wanting the latest and newest. it just so happens that most people are fine with the entry models and are ok to keep these devices for a much longer period of time.

remember, apple's interest is ultimately their investors or themselves. it just so happens that putting customers first is also good for profit.

 

[mi7chy]

720p displays like on a $50 Huawei Ascend XT2 is really good. Doubt the one on the $750 iPhone Xr is going to be much different.

Reminds of the time I was shopping at the mall and saw the exact same shirt as Banana Republic selling at Hugo Boss store but at 4x the price. The smart consumer in me bought Banana Republic.

 

[Hernan4651]

Yet I would guess most homes own a 1080p TV in 40-70 inches, under 50PPI (even a 4k TV over 40 inches is under 100PPI, 1/3rd of an iphone) yet complain about "only" 828p 326PPI on a tiny 6 inch phone display The irony.
And 828p (it's NOT 720p, sheesh at least Google the specs its 1792x828, FAR more than 1280x720) has it's advantages. Battery life being the #1.

If they could decrease the Max resolution to 1080 instead of in the middle between 1080 and QHD (it sits at 2,688x1,242) and get another 1 hour battery life I'd be ALL for it.

Yes but the irony is that you forget to take the distance into account.
Anyway the ppi is not there to hide the pixels to your sight. It affects the best properties of a good screen. Like contrast.
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720p displays like on a $50 Huawei Ascend XT2 is really good. Doubt the one on the $750 iPhone Xr is going to be much different.

Reminds of the time I was shopping at the mall and saw the exact same shirt as Banana Republic selling at Hugo Boss store but at 4x the price. The smart consumer in me bought Banana Republic.

Yes, that is my problem with the Xr. A $50 phone have an lcd screen of about the same dpi and technology . If you are happy with that, enjoy your phone !!
This year i keep my old iphone until i think the upgrade is worst. For me : Xs Max it's to expensive for what it deliver, and the Xr is "cheaper" but expensive for what it is.

 

[rockitdog]

Its just funny how people get so offended when you call them sheep or fanboys yet they defend Apple to the keyboard death for producing an overpriced phone with a sub-par device when people call out Apple for their antics. To everyone buying the XR, enjoy it!

 

[1144557]

Yes but the irony is that you forget to take the distance into account.
Anyway the ppi is not there to hide the pixels to your sight. It affects the best properties of a good screen. Like contrast.

That's the point, you can't see pixels on either at their respective viewing distances. Spec sheets mean NOTHING versus real world.

The other point being spec wh*ring resolution means little as well when talking such a small screen. If you can't see pixels anyway, then what does resolution numbers MEAN exactly? Notta.

 

[rockitdog]

That's the point, you can't see pixels on either at their respective viewing distances. Spec sheets mean NOTHING versus real world.

Well in the real world I want to be able to watch Netflix and/or YouTube videos in 1080p with HDR. Facts are facts you can't do that with 326PPI and while it may not matter to some, it matters to others.

 

[alpi123]

Oh my god, can't you really wait a week until people get their hands on the Xr and tell us everything about it?

 

[1144557]

Well in the real world I want to be able to watch Netflix and/or YouTube videos in 1080p with HDR. Facts are facts you can't do that with 326PPI and while it may not matter to some, it matters to others.

Then you're not the average customer and more in the "tech" crowd.

The average consumer could not even tell you the complete resolution numbers of 1080 without looking it up. They have no clue what A-series chip is in this years phone or how many GB of RAM, let alone could tell you what RAM does.

They dont care, its like talking Chinese to them. They want a phone that works and looks good body and screen.

That is who the XR if targeting; that 90%+ of average people out there.

 

[Sugadaddy]

If you watch movies on your phone, get the XS Max, that's where OLED shines.

If you use your phone for calls/email/messaging/browsing (white backgrounds mostly), then OLED is useless and will consume more power.

 

[akash.nu]

Geez, you don't need to be an Apple apologist. I never called them evil, good grief. Take your Apple colored glasses off an look at what they are providing their customers with at certain price points and look at what others provide theirs for much less. Facts don't care about your feelings!

Does it matter what others are doing?! Apple has got their own marketing and sales strategy. They’ve never been about price matching with other manufacturers.

Actually let’s look at what other manufacturers are providing.

- name another company in the smartphone industry with Apple’s level of customer service.

- name another company with such a robust and seamless ecosystem.

- name another company with such a cohesive cross device cloud platform based integration.

- name another company that builds all of their hardware so good that they support them for over 5 years.