Resolved Xserve G4 1.0ghz

[redhatcode29]

Give it legs and a larger than the 1U glass/plexiglass top and use it for a Server Table? Of course, that probably isn't the best idea, but it did pop into my head when I saw the OP's pic.

All kinds of ideas are popping in my head..... I just wish inhad the time!
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I am saying that you can put the processor from a Xserve G4 into an MDD

There are two hdd's in thE Xserve. 500gb and 250gb, so id i were to install a fresh OS...where should i install...the 250GB ? Also, will it automatically use the the hdd for raid ?

Sorry...kinda noob question.

 

[redhatcode29]

I bust my ass, dig e rams, source for 10.5 Server OS, erase one of my thumb drive to make a bootable ... And the 8gb thumb is not sufficient !
Hmmm .. Ok fine, dig for the dual layer disc which i had, 30 mins down, no luck on e disc and then it hits me that the disc is useless.

 

[LightBulbFun]

you do not need OS X server to run OS X on an xserve a client version of OS X will work fine on an xserve given its above the version it shipped with (a first gen G4 Xserve shipped with OS X server 10.1.5)

 

[redhatcode29]

you do not need OS X server to run OS X on an xserve a client version of OS X will work fine on an xserve given its above the version it shipped with (a first gen G4 Xserve shipped with OS X server 10.1.5)

....so i can just install a 10.5 or 10.4 of the retail version and the xserve will still function as how an osx server would ?
But this will be a clean install, as i cant get into the xserve, as i dnt hve e password.

 

[LightBulbFun]

it will function like any mac of corse you wont have the server specific apps but all the hardware on the xserve would run fine

 

[redhatcode29]

it will function like any mac of corse you wont have the server specific apps but all the hardware on the xserve would run fine

oh, i knew it would run like a normal Mac. But there is no fun in it. I want to see the Xserve in action.



Anyways, i did try to install the client version of 10.4, but it won't install. Tried Target mode as well, but the Xserve's hdd does not appear in the other Mac, which i had mentioned above.

Tried to reset pw via the other Mac with the install discs but the option to reset Xserves pw did no appear. the hdds were visible in the disk utility though.

Just a while ago i meddled with single user mode, tried to create a new user account and now i am stuck with the serials !

Removed the hdd from the xserve and thought of installing a fresh OS via another Mac, the screws on the drawers are so tight and won't budge !

 

[redhatcode29]

1.30 am:
It won't give in easily ! managed to get in, did all the settings, used my normal pw, restarted....and the pw does not work !!! what the heck !

it is running in 10.3

 

[MacCubed]

1.30 am:
It won't give in easily ! managed to get in, did all the settings, used my normal pw, restarted....and the pw does not work !!! what the heck !

it is running in 10.3


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Try using the user Localadministrator and your password

 

[redhatcode29]

Try using the user Localadministrator and your password

nah doesn't work.

re-tried the whole process, set the pw as 1234. changed nothing in the settings, all default, still can't log in. during the settings, the username was greyed out though, the old username was there, i had no option to change it.

a clean install, is what it is asking for ! Thanks for your tips

 

[jerwin]

I bust my ass, dig e rams, source for 10.5 Server OS, erase one of my thumb drive to make a bootable ... And the 8gb thumb is not sufficient !
Hmmm .. Ok fine, dig for the dual layer disc which i had, 30 mins down, no luck on e disc and then it hits me that the disc is useless.

The XServe has a CDROM (24x), three firewire 400 ports, and a couple of USB 1.1 ports. USB will be very slow.

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/xserve/specs/xserve_g4_1ghz.html

In 2001, the closest historical analog to a USB stick would probably be an original firewire ipod, though as you say, 8 gigs is not enough room.

 

[Surrat]

I got an xserve g4 1.33 last year, it came with the combo drive thats only for cd's. I had to transplant a superdrive from an imac into it to be able to install leopard on it.

My g4 dual 1.33 isnt very loud, it has variable speed fans, and mine is in 'workstation mode' using the optional apple AGP riser with an 9600 pc/mac edition 256mb. Apple offered the 1.0 and 1.33 xserves as servers, or as workstations. If you BTO it as a workstation, it came with the AGP riser, an ATI 8500 agp video card, and a sound card.

I'm not sure on the 1ghz version, I dont have one, but I think they have set speed fans (100%) so are really loud.

Other changes the 1.33 has that I'm not sure are on the 1ghz, are 64bit 64mhz pci slots. These are the only g4 macs to have that. Also they have 4 separate ATA133 IDE channels for drives, again the only g4 macs to have full speed ata133 controllers. You can raid the drives any way you want and get full speed with no conflicts.

So compared to a MDD, the xserve g4 has the fastest pci slots, the fastest ata controllers, no ata sharing (2 drives on one cable), and a normal 4x agp slot, no adc or funny pins. Whats missing is a sound system, and of course they never went over 1.33ghz.

I have been curious if a 1.42 cpu module from a MDD would work properly, but I'm kinda worried it would overheat.

Leopard runs great on my xserve, and I have never had problems with it.

 

[redhatcode29]

I got an xserve g4 1.33 last year, it came with the combo drive thats only for cd's. I had to transplant a superdrive from an imac into it to be able to install leopard on it.

My g4 dual 1.33 isnt very loud, it has variable speed fans, and mine is in 'workstation mode' using the optional apple AGP riser with an 9600 pc/mac edition 256mb. Apple offered the 1.0 and 1.33 xserves as servers, or as workstations. If you BTO it as a workstation, it came with the AGP riser, an ATI 8500 agp video card, and a sound card.

I'm not sure on the 1ghz version, I dont have one, but I think they have set speed fans (100%) so are really loud.

Other changes the 1.33 has that I'm not sure are on the 1ghz, are 64bit 64mhz pci slots. These are the only g4 macs to have that. Also they have 4 separate ATA133 IDE channels for drives, again the only g4 macs to have full speed ata133 controllers. You can raid the drives any way you want and get full speed with no conflicts.

So compared to a MDD, the xserve g4 has the fastest pci slots, the fastest ata controllers, no ata sharing (2 drives on one cable), and a normal 4x agp slot, no adc or funny pins. Whats missing is a sound system, and of course they never went over 1.33ghz.

I have been curious if a 1.42 cpu module from a MDD would work properly, but I'm kinda worried it would overheat.

Leopard runs great on my xserve, and I have never had problems with it.

Informative. Thank you. I will come back and bother u when i have installed the OS !
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The XServe has a CDROM (24x), three firewire 400 ports, and a couple of USB 1.1 ports. USB will be very slow.

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/xserve/specs/xserve_g4_1ghz.html

In 2001, the closest historical analog to a USB stick would probably be an original firewire ipod, though as you say, 8 gigs is not enough room.

I did come across a thread where a guy used his ipod. I cant do that!

How do i make my hdd appear as a flash drive ...

 

[redhatcode29]

....playtime, @Surrat 's transplant act gave me a push to what i was contemplating to do, yeah steal the superdrive from my iMac G5 17" and plant it in the Xserve, though could have attempted other options, i went for this. This iMac was already cannibalised!

Just to install OS, then i'd replace the optical drive, as it can't stay in the Xserve since its a slot load.

Prior to this act, went around looking to buy a DL Disc, suprisingly the couple of outlets near my home had ran out of it....what a bummer. Well that was not gonna stop me, i was gonna go ahead with the transplant and get the disc tomorrow.




And yeah, the superdrive was a beauty, i tried slotting a 10.5 retail disc and it picked it up !

Then i thought about the pw reset option since the installer began to run... attempted it, whooola it did proceed, had a number of user accounts, did what i was supposed to



IT WORKED....woooohoooo. The pain in the ass had paid off finally!

It was worth, the gamble and sweat, it was .... now its whether the OS X Server 10.5 installs fine or .....

 

[bunnspecial]

I have a G5 in a closet upstairs. I turn it on to-as suggested above-offload tasks onto it that would slow my Quicksilver down too much, or will let me keep working on something else. Mine is run headless-I mount the drives on whatever computer I'm working from and control it through VNC. I put a video card in it for the initial set up, but that was it.

I actually got the original boxed OS with mine, but it was on DVDs and like most Xserves mine came with a CD-RW drive. I pretty quickly transplanted a spare Powerbook superdrive into it. I'm running Leopard Server now.

BTW, the Xserves are the only Macs I know of that have an RS-232 serial port(I think even the original 128K/512K had RS-422 despite having a DB9 plug). I'm just not sure if there's any actual use for the serial port . I can't find it in OS X, although I suppose it might be accessible under Linux.

 

[redhatcode29]

I have a G5 in a closet upstairs. I turn it on to-as suggested above-offload tasks onto it that would slow my Quicksilver down too much, or will let me keep working on something else. Mine is run headless-I mount the drives on whatever computer I'm working from and control it through VNC. I put a video card in it for the initial set up, but that was it.

I actually got the original boxed OS with mine, but it was on DVDs and like most Xserves mine came with a CD-RW drive. I pretty quickly transplanted a spare Powerbook superdrive into it. I'm running Leopard Server now.

BTW, the Xserves are the only Macs I know of that have an RS-232 serial port(I think even the original 128K/512K had RS-422 despite having a DB9 plug). I'm just not sure if there's any actual use for the serial port . I can't find it in OS X, although I suppose it might be accessible under Linux.

a PB's superdrive...then your Xserve can't be the 1.0 Ghz, must be a later version ....the G5 maybe!

 

[bunnspecial]

Sorry, guess I didn't mention that mine is a G5. The Powerbook drive is a drop in with these, and as I recall doesn't even require any tools to change

 

[redhatcode29]

phew.... two failed DL discs, failed HDD in a Mac Mini g4 which was to be used as the host for TD, incompatible firewire for the intel mini..bla bla.... this is has been the most difficult Mac to install an OS !

Finally it runs 10.5.8 Server. I like the default wall!

I gotta say that this PPC sub-forum is one of the most helpful and friendly sub in MR! thanks guys.

I am now wanting to set RAID and having no experience in setting one, i seek some guidance from you guys.. for starters...

* since i am not using the Xserve Raid (the external raid box), can i assume that setting up raid in this Xserve is just the same as setting up Raid in any other Mac ?


* do i have to begin the installer and then jump to the disk utility to set the Raid or can i just begin while i am logged in the OS X Server ?


* the picture below shows the HDDs in the previous install. I notice that though there are
2 X 250GBs in the Xserve, there is a combined reading of 467++GB, does this mean that the previous install was in RAID 0 ?

* does this link sound like a good tutorial for me to install RAID 1 ?
http://macs.about.com/od/usingyourmac/ss/raidmirror.htm#step2

This would be my first attempt at RAID, so any guide, do and dont's and comments will be much appreciated. Thank you guys!

 

[Hack5190]

I gotta say that this PPC sub-forum is none of the most helpful and friendly sub in MR! thanks guys.

Im certain you meant one and not none

Kudos on getting it running and not throwing in the towel.

 

[redhatcode29]

Im certain you meant one and not none

Kudos on getting it running and not throwing in the towel.

ouch ! that was a bad typo ! thanks for pointing it out EDITED!

 

[redhatcode29]

Settled this PPC some time ago, so its to learn how to run this OSX from now on. Placed it, though have a bit more of tweaking to do.

Don't have enough place to lay it horizontally, so made this simple stand to give it a leg. Didn't bother to give a good finish, as it will be hidden beneath.

placed it right behind my iMac, as it will be the primary mac which will feed the Xserve.
Need to do a dovetail there, to exactly fit it in. Sadly the table is not slightly higher, so that it totally submerges the Xserve.