Xserve July, Mac Pro (PowerMac) in August?

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    ThinkSecret reports that they have heard that Xserve will take advantage of Intel's upcoming Woodcrest processor. Woodcrest is Intel's successor to the current "Xeon" server-targeted processors. There had been reports that the Woodcrest family of processors would be making it into "Macintosh workstations" as early as 3rd quarter. Indeed, Woodcrest, is expected in June of this year, with the rumor site expecting the Intel Xserve to follow in July.

    Meanwhile, PowerMac revisions (Mac Pros) are expected to make the transition to the recently announced Core 2 Duo processors (codenamed Conroe). These processors are expected in July.

    ThinkSecret speculates that the PowerMac revisions would come at WWDC, and indeed, MacRumors has received confirmation Intel PowerMac revisions ("Mac Pros") are to be announced at the WWDC Keynote which takes place Aug 7-11, 2006.
  2. Silentwave macrumors 68000

    May 26, 2006
    Gainesville, FL
    I don't entirely believe ThinkSecret. I do think that it is logical for the XServes to come out first, though, as they will be 100% Woodcrest-Xeon. The Mac Pros will likely contain a mix of Conroe and Woodcrest, as if i understand the way it works correctly, a quad would need to have two woodcrests.
  3. longofest Editor emeritus


    Jul 10, 2003
    Falls Church, VA
    And if steve says that the new Mac Pros are 4x as fast as my Quad, I'm going to go down to Cupertino and punch him in the face.
  4. rockandrule macrumors 6502

    Aug 3, 2004
    Jacksonville, FL
    What and who confirmed to MR that the Mac Pro will be released at WWDC?:confused:
  5. WildCowboy Administrator/Editor


    Staff Member

    Jan 20, 2005
    Think Secret's reputation has been pretty shoddy of late, but they aren't really saying too much with this one. It's pretty much along the lines of what people are expecting.

    Now that Apple is using the same processors as everyone else, they're release schedule is going to follow the Intel roadmap very closely so that they can stay up-to-date.
  6. kev0476 macrumors member

    Nov 12, 2005
    Salt Lake City, Ut
    thinksecret hasn't been right recently, but this is also almost not new.
  7. longofest Editor emeritus


    Jul 10, 2003
    Falls Church, VA
    Steve Jobs. Don't you listen to his podcast?
  8. risc macrumors 68030


    Jul 23, 2004
    Melbourne, Australia
    Is the Conroe even capable of doing SMP? A single dual core Conroe versus a dual dual core G5... I wonder which will be faster? :rolleyes:
  9. puckhead193 macrumors G3


    May 25, 2004
    god i hope its true. I just hope they make the tower smaller and a lot less heavy.
    I plan on buying either an imac or PM in the summer. Only thing is with the recent release of Final Cut express going universal my hopes of an updated FCS went out the door. (Which was the reason of buying a new mac) o well i still might buy and get express to hold me over till it comes out...
  10. longofest Editor emeritus


    Jul 10, 2003
    Falls Church, VA
    Every piece of information we have had up until now has pointed to "No" in regards to the question I believe you are really asking, which is can you place two Conroe chips together. Yes, Conroe is SMP capable because it is a dual-core chip, but so far we have not seen evidence that it will support dual-processor configurations, so in that respect, it will be similar to the Pentium 4.

    Of course, if anyone has hard evidence to the contrary (or even hard evidence supporting this idea), please let us know.

    p.s. I should note that it is most likely the chipset that accompanies Conroe that is most likely the limiting factor in deploying multi-processor Conroe systems.
  11. macgeek2005 macrumors 65816

    Jan 31, 2006

    They're not putting Conroe in the towers. No friggin way. Are they crazy? That CPU will be in cheap dell towers!!!
  12. DTphonehome macrumors 68000

    Apr 4, 2003
    Ha, what a visual! Why? Because he'd by lying, or because you'd be pissed off at having the "slow" machine?
  13. Mac Fly (film) macrumors 65816

    Mac Fly (film)

    Feb 12, 2006
  14. JRM PowerPod macrumors 6502

    Mar 7, 2005
    Outback Australia
    Does that mean it will do the photoshop test of that horse in 4 seconds? Coz it takes my Quad 16secs and my powerbook took 2.5mins. Somehow i believe that he can try to tell us as much as he wants that its 4-5 times faster but he can go to hell.......
  15. longofest Editor emeritus


    Jul 10, 2003
    Falls Church, VA
    Because I'd be pissed at having spent over 3 grand for a top-of-the-line machine, only to have him say a year later that I have just been witness to the biggest leap forward in pro-mac desktop performance in this decade.

    That, and because he'd be lying while he is at it (so the independent benchmarks say).
  16. ipacmm macrumors 65816


    Jun 17, 2003
    Cincinnati, OH
    I don't think we will see the Mac Pro's at WWDC or this July, but I think we could see some new Xserve's and it will be nice to finally see the Xserve having their own processor like they should have had from the start.
  17. Mr. Mister macrumors 6502

    Feb 15, 2006
    An Apple high-end desktop announced a month and a half after the processor inside it has been available and shipping? I don't think so, for both competitive reasons of letting Boxx and other high-end systems developers ship Conroe/Woodcrest-based workstations before Apple, and for keeping up the tradition of announcing high-end Macs well before they're CLOSE to shipping. :D
  18. adamfilip macrumors 6502a


    Apr 13, 2003
    burlington, Ontario canada
    cry me a river


    having newer faster machines doesnt make your machine any slower to you.
    if you are so worried.. ignore the news and enjoy your quad
  19. Yamson macrumors newbie

    Feb 25, 2002
    As we all know, nothing is "confirmed" until the moment Steve says the word. While it seems plausable, a confirmation of an Apple announcement over two months away is not really a confirmation.
  20. decksnap macrumors 68040


    Apr 11, 2003
    They'd better be putting Woodcrest in the Powermacs.
  21. bosrs1 macrumors 6502

    Feb 23, 2005
    I agree. It'll be in high end PC towers so I'd be totally shocked if the best Apple manages in the Mac Pro is a lowly Core Duo.
  22. Bubbasteve macrumors 65816


    Dec 23, 2004
    Charleston, IL
    It's called technology...deal with it. Sorry to be an @$$ but it's the way technology works my friend :eek:
  23. it5five macrumors 65816


    May 31, 2006
    New York
    I was going to get my Powermac in late June, but I guess I will hold off and see if Woodcrest or Conroe is going into the Mac Pro's.
  24. thejadedmonkey macrumors 604


    May 28, 2005
    confirmed, as in a 3ghz G5? :p
  25. ksz macrumors 68000

    Oct 28, 2003
    San Jose, CA
    Only 1 of 3 PowerMac configurations today is dual dual-core. It's possible that 1 of 3 MacPro configurations will be dual dual-core. The story only says that Conroe may appear in MacPro, but this does not rule out an "Oh, I almost forgot, One More Thing..." from the Stevenote. One of the tower configurations may be dual Woodcrested.

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