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iPhone 12 Pro Yellow Screen/Tint? Display seem "Warm"? Check here first!
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You're both wrong, although you are less wrong. The yellow tint is definitely not intentional but it also not a hardware defect. It's bad calibration or just a bad quality OLED panel. If we're talking flickering/raised blacks, yeah that a defect in my book.
It can't be both not intentional and not a hardware defect. Apple chooses the calibration and the OLED panel, so even if you don't like it, it was still intentional. Apple, more than most other companies, has an insane amount of control over what they manufacture and how it's manufactured, so if iPhones with very similar warm / yellow tints are coming out of every iPhone factory around the world, then Apple are well aware of it and have made an intentional decision to sell the phones this way, as Apple support and engineering have confirmed.
What the hell are you talking about? I'm telling these things to you, not to Apple.
Apologies, I thought you were one of those who bought a 12 and talked to Apple. So, you don't own a 12?
My wife has a 12 Pro, I'm on my third 12 Pro Max, and yes I've talked to Apple. Apple support / engineering says the displays are supposed to be warmer / more yellow this year. I don't like the display calibration as much this year, but after inspecting four in my own house, measuring them with my colorimeter, and also comparing them to dozens of display models at various stores, I've come to accept that the screens are just calibrated differently this year. I don't think it's a hardware defect that will be recognized or fixed by Apple, but I would love to be proven wrong.
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Whats your interpretation yaya, was he making fun of the thread, or of Bryan Bowler? Curious to see why you think his statement was so well said.
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I think they were actual facts based on what is being said. Clearly yellow/warmer screens have been around for years.
I can tolerate yellow True Tone on current displays but not so much raised blacks and flickering nor green push tint. That’s unacceptable regardless of price point. My personal take on this matter is that the factories in China are rushing these devices out and corners are being cut. Like with any mass produced product, it’s a numbers game. If Apple can get away with allowing higher percentages of lower quality devices to be sold, ones that would have other wise failed QC then it’s more profit for them , even if a small number of those units are returned or exchanged.
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OK but he was responding to me blowing off Bryan Bowler, who had similar thoughts on the point of these threads. So he is either reinforcing that threads like this are pointless, or is trying to say that they are actually worthwhile, while making fun of Bryans position. So which do you think it is?
I would guess Apple intended to have warm display but the variance between devices seems huge. So not sure if Apple allowing or not good production. But also big issue is some panels have raised njj look a hs and others don’t.
I’m pretty sure the OP has already decided that the iPhone 13 will be “yellow” even though it is 9-10 months away. He’s already admitted that he stirs this up every year since the iPhone 3G. And this year, he even started this thread before the iPhone 12 launch day.
Think about it folks...and don’t get played.
I didn't start other yellow screen threads. I have contributed to some in the past. Also, this thread was started upon reports of yellow screens from Aus and NZ, not preemptive in any way. But looks like you got played because you read too much into my comment about stirring things up.
There has been a multitude of evidence over the years of yellow screened phones, as well as this year in this thread. There has also been plenty of people using colorimeters and measuring tools to confirm screens that are NOT 6500k, and are lacking in colors with these 12 displays.
You've chosen to ignore it all. All you can do is reference your poorly conducted test from 5 + years ago, where you tried to measure white point, and not the other things measured here such as degraded colors. White point doesn't tell the whole story, but even that is low on many 12s, in the 6200-6400 range.
So despite all this, you continue to post, to "stir" things up yourself. Ignoring all evidence. Luckily, there are a lot of people who are too smart for your disinfo campaign, which is why Im basically the only person who responds to your posts at this point.
I do it out of pity - imagine thinking you are a top photographer who "knows calibration" who refuses to look at a multitude of calibrations from real professionals in the field, and instead plugs their ears and stomps up and down. How embarrassing for you. Might be time for a new career.
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Ok what is it then? You thought it was a “well said” post so clearly something resonated with you.
Was it that yellow screens actually don’t exist? Is that what you thought his post meant?
Really curious to hear your interpretation.
Hm, I haven't seen a huge variance between devices. I have looked at a lot and have not found any with a cool color temperature that matched screens from previous years.
Very well said. That´s the point and what i too believe has happened. Due to Covid it was difficult this year to produce enough "good" panels for a "normal launch" and therefore they lowered the quality to meet their numbers. Maybe there are more good panels out there, but i think they gave them this weird calibration too, so that all panels look more or less the same. Did you notice that the contrast of the panels almost looks like if some sort of color filter already has been applied? (same way as if you change the hue-settings) (that´s just my theory, i´m not a display expert)
Sure, some people will return their devices, but:
* the majority of people won´t notice, because they don´t have other devices to compare. Not everyone sits in front of a computer the whole day (like me) or has a macbook, second phone or ipad sitting on the desk. And i have to admit that if you use the phone with no comparison and in bright environments, you won´t notice it at all. It will look perfectly fine for you.
* many of the people that notice the bad display, just don´t care. I personally know some people that admit that the display is yellow/bad but it´s ok for them because their phone is not such an important factor in their life... After all, it´s "just a phone" for them.
So, like Limebastid said: Apple probably knows very well about the bad quality, but it´s a numbers game for them. But that doesn´t change the fact that the displays are worse than in last years lineup.
And please... To all the people here, that want to tell the others that they should "just be happy with their phone" or "it won´t get better next year" or "there is no problem, it exists just in your imagination": What is even your motivation of reading and posting in this thread? If you are happy with your 12 or if you are not even owning one, maybe just go on and post somewhere else? What are you even doing here? You just make the thread longer and more difficult to follow for the people that actually CARE about the quality of their phones.
That’s the truth. Period. Even the guys who says they have a crispy white and bla bla ... no way 😉 it’s warmer. And then: do you trust in pictures posted by a camera phone that alters the colors?
do you remember the user with the super white screen who was used to post screenshots (🤦♂️): well the only comparison he/she posted clearly show a warmer screen than the xs.
Agreed. I was also being fair in my comparisons, meaning I compared OLED panel quality like for like. iPhone 12 PM to iPhone 12 PM. Since in my opinion comparing to previous models or worst LCD is moot.
I think that they’re all kinda more yellow. But it’s just the normal calibration for oled. People thinking that those screens are « yellow » sometimes come from an LCD device. I admit it might be « warmer » than some other Oled devices (like 11 pro) but when I put my Samsung S10+ in the « natural » color screen calibration, it’s just very close to my iPhone 12 PM in termes of white and colors ! So it might be warmer, but not « yellower »
The real problem IMO is the raised black and flickering which are overshadowed by the yellow tint problem. I don’t really know if it’s that widespread. And I tend to think that Pro Max’s models are more touched by it than simple 12. I’d like to hear people who have Pro Max’s about their screen !
The real problem IMO is the raised black and flickering which are overshadowed by the yellow tint problem. I don’t really know if it’s that widespread. And I tend to think that Pro Max’s models are more touched by it than simple 12. I’d like to hear people who have Pro Max’s about their screen !
I've seen plenty of OLEDs with perfect calibration. Trust me the technology is perfectly capable of displaying correct colors.
It's a shame that you continually exhibit such an aggressive attitude towards anyone that happens to disagree with your thoughts or opinions. It's also a shame that you make-up imaginary things about various people here.
I've never stomped up and down or posted anything resembling that behavior. For those that know me, my work as a creative stands on its own. When I did those tests several years ago, they were fairly exhaustive and performed with display measuring equipment used in a major broadcast studio and all displays tested were superior in their performance. I'm not sure how much more professional that testing could be for the relatively small sample size. It was only representative of one data set though in a given year. And it was done to try and offer some levity to some of the outrageous claims being posted in that year's yellow-screen thread.
I'm not the end-all authority or even pretend to be. I feel bad for those that are unhappy with their iPhones and wish them the best as they find the device that is best for them. But as for the words you say above, I'll let my words and actions speak for itself and others can form their own opinion from there.
I Use feedback almost every day and report to the official app support from apple. I hope they fix something