This is correct, you won't find a screen that doesn't do what yours does to some degree. Some might be slightly better, most will be as good or worse. Your screen is fine.
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Yellowing problem? Yay or nay?
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This is correct, you won't find a screen that doesn't do what yours does to some degree. Some might be slightly better, most will be as good or worse. Your screen is fine.
Color shift does occur when the viewing angle changes but the posts here saying it's viewing angle are all wrong. If you lean the screen back the viewing angle of the top should shift more than the angle on the bottom if you are more in line with the bottom of the screen which is what picture 3 shows.
In this case you are seeing the truer color of the bottom. If your eyes are in line with the top of the screen, the bottom of the screen is color shifted lighter so the yellow tint actually appears to be less.
This screen has a yellow color shift at the bottom of the screen. You can debate whether it's acceptable or not, but you can't debate this it's not there. This is not color shift.
I've compared several 15" and three 17" MBP LED screens. All the 15" screens had it to some degree and none of the 17" LED screens had it. It's a screen issue. Getting a different 15" or sending it in for repair might make it better or worse, but I can't understand this blind denial of an obvious issue.
In this case you are seeing the truer color of the bottom. If your eyes are in line with the top of the screen, the bottom of the screen is color shifted lighter so the yellow tint actually appears to be less.
This screen has a yellow color shift at the bottom of the screen. You can debate whether it's acceptable or not, but you can't debate this it's not there. This is not color shift.
I've compared several 15" and three 17" MBP LED screens. All the 15" screens had it to some degree and none of the 17" LED screens had it. It's a screen issue. Getting a different 15" or sending it in for repair might make it better or worse, but I can't understand this blind denial of an obvious issue.
A test im using..
A test picture I use, the upper part and the lower part of the orange field will never be the same color if the screen has yellowing or uneven backlight. And you can see the gradient on the sides.
http://bayimg.com/EAjiLaAbF
A test picture I use, the upper part and the lower part of the orange field will never be the same color if the screen has yellowing or uneven backlight. And you can see the gradient on the sides.
http://bayimg.com/EAjiLaAbF
Where did you compare these screens? If it's at the Apple store those comparisons are meaningless because the displays aren't accurate there.
I have calibrated 3 of the 17" LED screens and about 6 of the non-LED screens and they all do this to some degree. Sure, every panel is different and if it bugs you it bugs you, but there's not much that can be done about it besides play the screen lottery and end up back where you started.
I've compared 3 15" and one 17" (new) at home and calibrated them with a hardware sensor. The others I have seen in stores.
I agree I have not seen any yellowing on the 17" screens. The new 17" LED seems to be a much higher quality than the 15", not only is there no yellowing with 17" but the viewing angles seem to show much less color shift than the 15".
The 15" LED is another story though. Although I like the brightness and the instant full on, every single one I've seen has yellowing issues including three I've evaluated in varying light conditions and have calibrated at home. Comparing a known 15" screen to one in two different Apple stores I see the same issues there. And the yellow isn't that the whole screen is yellow, it's a band at the bottom taking up usually about 1/3 of the screen height.
Again, I'm not talking about the 17" LED, but the 15" LED. Aside from size and resolution there seem to be significant differences between these screens to me.
That post was a bit tongue in cheek. I do agree with you for the most part, but you have to realize even though the machine is called a "pro" I bet that the majority of the owners don't really make a living off of their MBP. Those of us who have gathered here are a specific bunch. I'll be the first to admit that I DO need something for my OCD. But you're right, we shouldn't expect any less from a company like Apple who charges the premium for it's self touted quality.
Now please tell me if my 9C81 screen is showing any yellowing. I do see a gradient going from dark to light. But how does this compare to others?
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Honestly, I can't tell with that image. You really need a pure white and it's really hard to tell from any photo. The white balance and exposure on the image can be really difficult to get to reflect what the eye sees. It also helps to be able to see it from multiple angles to get a feel for whether the color is due to color shift or due to yellowing.
Stop reading or believing rumors and take your MBP to the Genius's and let them decided instead of jumping on the rumor control bandwagon
Stop reading or believing rumors and take your MBP to the Genius's and let them decided instead of jumping on the rumor control bandwagon
The problem with taking it to a genius is that geniuses are anything but geniuses and very few of them are qualified to determine the quality of a display. Geniuses seem to make common issues the standard by which they judge, i.e. if most MBPs they see have yellowing they will tell you that it's 'within specifications'. If most MBPs have warped bezels, then that's considered normal and so forth. They seem not have any kind of guidelines or more objective criteria for determining defects.
So, unless you're sure what you're seeing and what you expect/want/need, going to the genius bar doesn't seem very meaningful.
I agree and disagree with you on your reply but you dont know till you try or if your lucky enough take it to two different stores. During the 14 day return period they will more than likely swap it out, but I have also seen where they say to customers that honestly have LEGITIMATE reason for a swap they have to pay a restocking fee or give them the run around for no reason at all. Our local store is very good in my opinion. I also suggested taking it to the store so that it could be documented under the serial number and if there was enough NOISE made about it that the OP could have a new one given or sent too him.
One Apple store I go to used to be very good about exchanges within the 14 day but now unless it won't turn on everything is "in spec". You can get an exchange if you hold your breath and ask for the manager but the store "geniuses" have gotten pretty bad.
Another Apple store isn't as bad as this.
But think about it, these guys are getting paid low end retail wages. You aren't going to get a trained engineer or something at that bar, and I'm sure they are directed to save Apple money. I used to see them look up things on their computer, I'm sure part of it was customer history (to see if you had bought a lot from them). Now though they look at it for 15 seconds and say it's "in-spec" and "they are all like that". Even when I showed a model on the floor didn't have a problem I was seeing, it was still "in-spec".
Another Apple store isn't as bad as this.
But think about it, these guys are getting paid low end retail wages. You aren't going to get a trained engineer or something at that bar, and I'm sure they are directed to save Apple money. I used to see them look up things on their computer, I'm sure part of it was customer history (to see if you had bought a lot from them). Now though they look at it for 15 seconds and say it's "in-spec" and "they are all like that". Even when I showed a model on the floor didn't have a problem I was seeing, it was still "in-spec".