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Sorry guys, this may have been wrong. I pulled the article for now.

arn
 
I'm guessing you haven't used it, all of the features you mentioned are features of Google Voice, including calling and texting from Mac. Facetime is more like Skype than Google Voice, which is an actual number. Being that it offers the same end functionality, it has everything to do with it. Regardless, please save yourself the embarrassment by further pretending you're even remotely familiar with the service. It's quite obvious you have no idea what it is or what it provides.
I'm quite familiar with Google Voice thank you very much. The 'number' that you call/text from with Google Voice is not your own but rather Google's. Since it is not a substitute for an actual phone for any normal person this means yet another number, rather than the proper implementation Apple uses which is through your existing number. Google Voice also gets their money out of you by monitoring your communications to generate targeted advertising, something non-Google users don't have to deal with.
 
I'm guessing you haven't used it, all of the features you mentioned are features of Google Voice, including calling and texting from Mac. Facetime is more like Skype than Google Voice, which is an actual number. Being that it offers the same end functionality, it has everything to do with it. Regardless, please save yourself the embarrassment by further pretending you're even remotely familiar with the service. It's quite obvious you have no idea what it is or what it provides.

With that said I'm happy to see Apple implementing that convenience within the ecosystem.

While I will not argue that GV rings all your devices, allows you to SMS (but not MMS) from any device, and brings the same sort of functionality that Continuity's SMS/Phone capabilities will bring to Macs, I think that you missed the point of the OP.

The OP focuses on another aspect of Continuity, the ability to have devices intelligently figure out that you're working on something and present that something to you on the new device in your proximity. Obviously I know you know that GV (or any Google service) cannot do this.

It's a minor thing, Handoff. It's neat, it's how computers SHOULD behave, but it's not a live or die situation. (Ha, none of this is, is it?)

As for SMS/Call handling with Continuity, GV has had these features but it's not quite as elegant, I think you'll agree, as Continuity is. Which is fine by me as well. I use a Moto X, and have been using GV for years.
 
Sorry guys, this may have been wrong. I pulled the article for now.

arn
Why? Most of the stuff you post is dead wrong. Right now you are running "Photos of 4.7-Inch and 5.5-Inch iPhone 6 Model" which is made-up BS without a shred of actual insider info, "Next iPad Air May Include Upgraded A8 Processor" which makes predictions so elementary they could come from a 3 year old, and "Taiwanese Star Jimmy Lin Gaining Attention for iPhone 6 Mockup Photos" about a man playing with plastic cutouts. How do you decide what isn't good enough to run?
 
You're going to use a 2011 Machine in 2017? Good for you grandpa, but you won't be using the latest software or OS features.

My 2007 alienware is still running fine and playing games everyday, and office and windows 8.1.
Sure it's not as fast as my new imac i bought last month or my main work PC but it still does everything and is usable.

Although i love mac's (i have macbook, macmin, imac , ipads, iphones etc) the built in obsolescence is really getting on my nerves.
With how much they cost they really don't last as long as they should

Oh and lets not even think about how horrible this is going to be for battery life. My iphone barely goes a full day now with bluetooth turned off :p
 
i dont believe that on a mac mini 2011 works and on a iMac 2011 it doesnt

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i thought mac mini <imac in everything

Smaller components such as bluetooth were likely upgraded at different times across the apple lineup.

This is the rare downside of Apple's way. They have custom-designed components/parts for their computers (such as the iMac) and for whatever reason there was no redesign for a Bluetooth 4.0 LE module in an iMac until after 2012.
 
Apple said in the WWDC dev sessions that Handoff runs on Bluetooth LE.

arn

When announced I thought it required WiFi and both devices having the same primary iCloud account. After using it, I noticed my 2013 Mac Pro is paired with my iPhone 5s and I cannot "Forget this Device". (Bluetooth LE doesn't necessarily activate the bluetooth icon on your iOS device as it's technically "always on")

Perhaps using Bluetooth LE is similar to AirDrop, mimicking an AdHoc connection, thereby bypassing third party wireless routers as Apple would have to test them to ascertain functionality. LE won't drain your battery and if you have your device near your system, plug it in (loving the "Hey Siri" function :p ).
 
My 2007 alienware is still running fine and playing games everyday, and office and windows 8.1.
Sure it's not as fast as my new imac i bought last month or my main work PC but it still does everything and is usable.

Although i love mac's (i have macbook, macmin, imac , ipads, iphones etc) the built in obsolescence is really getting on my nerves.
With how much they cost they really don't last as long as they should

Oh and lets not even think about how horrible this is going to be for battery life. My iphone barely goes a full day now with bluetooth turned off :p

This is quite ironic, since you're using your windows PC for the most very basic things and accusing the Mac of not doing more advanced things as it ages.

You will need to look into BLE, as it sips power at a rate so low devices last weeks on a battery a fraction of the size of your phone.
 
I'm guessing you haven't used it, all of the features you mentioned are features of Google Voice, including calling and texting from Mac. Facetime is more like Skype than Google Voice, which is an actual number. Being that it offers the same end functionality, it has everything to do with it. Regardless, please save yourself the embarrassment by further pretending you're even remotely familiar with the service. It's quite obvious you have no idea what it is or what it provides.

With that said I'm happy to see Apple implementing that convenience within the ecosystem.

So you don't know what handoff is then? Because it has literally NOTHING to do with making and receiving calls and messages.
 
My 2007 alienware is still running fine and playing games everyday, and office and windows 8.1.
Sure it's not as fast as my new imac i bought last month or my main work PC but it still does everything and is usable.

Although i love mac's (i have macbook, macmin, imac , ipads, iphones etc) the built in obsolescence is really getting on my nerves.
With how much they cost they really don't last as long as they should

Oh and lets not even think about how horrible this is going to be for battery life. My iphone barely goes a full day now with bluetooth turned off :p
So your Mac is working fine after 7 years but it was designed to be obsolete? Don't let logic get in the way of a good rant.
 
Question: I have an email I'm writing open on my 2013 Mac Pro and iPhone 5s. As I type on one device should the other one update live?
 
Question: I have an email I'm writing open on my 2013 Mac Pro and iPhone 5s. As I type on one device should the other one update live?

Yes. If you're running Yosemite and iOS8 on those devices, respectively.

Though the email doesn't "live" on the iPhone 5s, the iPhone 5s just knows to have it pre-pulled from from the cloud.
 
Yes. If you're running Yosemite and iOS8 on those devices, respectively.

Though the email doesn't "live" on the iPhone 5s, the iPhone 5s just knows to have it pre-pulled from from the cloud.

It seems to work better from my '13 Mac Pro to my iPhone 5s. Modding the same email creates another email on my Mac, and it only recognizes changes if I move to my Mac. Beta's, oh well. :)

Thanks!
 
Do it over WiFi, problem solved....

IDevices sleep their WIFI when asleep.
You'd wake it up and it wouldn't have had time to discover your handoff session,

Bluetooth LE makes the most sense.
 
Do it over WiFi, problem solved....

Perhaps using Bluetooth LE is similar to AirDrop, mimicking an AdHoc connection, thereby bypassing third party wireless routers as Apple would have to test them to ascertain functionality. Using BLE allows for direct device connectivity without draining your battery as a wireless connection, and doesn't require Apple to certify third party routers for their system features to function well.
 
So does this mean my Early 2011 15" MacBook Pro won't be able to use my iPhone as a relay for SMS and voice calls, or is that separate from where the devices allow you to continue certain tasks on the other?

Same exact model as you.

I think SMS/Voice Calls will still work. Handoff is explicitly over bluetooth and Apple (rightly) wants this to happen over Bluetooth LE. The SMS/Voice likely works over wi-fi.

There's a very practical reason for the difference.

Handoff implies you were working with one device and now you're near another (iPhone to desktop, iPad to iPhone, etc.) and Bluetooth LE is perfect for this use scenario.

Answering phones and receiving SMS implies you're in your home, your phone could be in the other room, and you need to reply or answer from another device. Bluetooth would run into problems handling such use distances but routing things through your Wi-Fi network is a breeze.

So TL;DR: SMS/Voice is likely over wi-fi (or a network, in case your Mac is connected via ethernet) and is likely coming to all devices getting Yosemite.

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ADDENDUM:
While Handoff is a nice feature, likely most people will not upgrade for this feature alone. I mean honestly, you start a draft or work on a document, you want to spend another $1k just to have the ability to click a dynamic link to open the work on your Mac?

My early 2011 MBP should last till 2017 (to answer another post), only last year did I retire the 2006 MBP we had and upgraded the wife to a 2013 MBA.

Did either of you guys ever have problems with your early 2011 15" MB Pros? Mine, like many others, went haywire because of the GPU.
 
i think is very frustrating for those who choose in 2011 iMac instead of mac mini OR macbook pro instead of macbook air. Instead of future proof now these more expansive macs dont benefit of all the features Yosemite has.
 
Apple said in the WWDC dev sessions that Handoff runs on Bluetooth LE.

arn
Solely on Bluetooth LE or Bluetooth LE and possibly also wifi? It's a bit curious that they would have said this and people still don't know what it would be running on. Even the site that made the graphic wasn't sure that it's the only possible way, and there's been a ton of speculation over what it would work over.
 
I replaced the bluetooth/airport card in my early 2011 15" MBP due to failure, and I bought one on ebay, which I think is actually for a 2012 15". Anyway to find out if I have bluetooth 4.0 LE?
 
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