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For me the main issue is that I cannot use Apple Watch to record data while using my iPhone to monitor this data during cycling.
 
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Weird that it doesn't do exercise, especially if you have 3d party apps that share to health.
Yeah, it seems very half-hearted in not having an exercise ring - especially when immediately below the ring in the app it lists my exercise activities done on that day synced to Health from Garmin Connect. In fact, looking at today in the app, it even says "Add To Your Rings", so maybe we will get an exercise ring eventually.
 
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It’s not about the money, it’s about the fact that i don’t like the AW as a watch, and prefer my nice big 5lb mechanical watch. I LOVE the fitness tuff on the AW, I’ve said it many times the person who invented those Rings should get a Noble Piece Prize, that person(s) will save millions of lives; BUT I hate the AW for everything else, I don’t like it as a watch, I hate that it takes over all the notifications (screen lighting up and dinging) from my phone, I hate that instead of looking at my 6” phone I’m now reading everything on 1.77” “watch” that I need to turn my wrist and twist my neck to read.
You can turn off notifications on your Apple Watch. Nobody's forcing you to read anything on it. And with the always-on display you shouldn't have to turn your wrist to see the time.
 
I believe the stands side of the rings was invented simply to make people wear it all day.
To set it aside from just a fitness watch. (rather than just put it on when you're running etc.)
Clever 'collection' marketing but a useless feature.
 
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Well, the keynote did mention the Fitness app uses algorithms to approach the move side of things, not the Stand side of the rings.
As I read your response my first thought was “this is absolutely correct!”

But now I’m thinking that if my iPhone can detect that my body is actually moving x steps, shouldn’t it also be able to reasonably assume that said movement required me to be in a standing position? I didn’t walk my dog around the block without standing.

5:30am brain musings…
 
I…think the Watch may just not be for you then. It seems like you dislike everything it’s supposed to be.

You could get the extra expensive version with the heavier case and the metal link band and make it super heavy though, if you miss how heavy and expensive traditional watches are.
Unfortunately, I think you're completely correct. I just dont thing the AW is for me. I buy it around the summer on what seems like every year or other year, I'm on my fourth one, I really really really try to like it, but I always end up returning it, typically within a month to a month and a half.

As I said, I don't care for it as a watch, and I don't need another phone on my wrist (I'm one of those that always has his phone on him, and so the watch as a phone replacement is unnecessary for me). But I do love it for forcing me to exercise...because those damn rings.

So has anyone gotten the new Move only Ring WITHOUT WATCH to work? And if so how?

All fair enough if you don’t like it but you should be aware that watch notifications are completely customisable. You can have it effectively just be a watch if you prefer. It won’t alert you to things if you set it so it doesn’t. I can totally see why you might prefer a proper watch but annoying notifications isn’t a valid criticism of Apple Watch. Ten minutes in the phone app is all that’s needed to configure it to better suit your needs. It also has silent mode, theatre mode and even airplane mode 👍

You can turn off notifications on your Apple Watch. Nobody's forcing you to read anything on it. And with the always-on display you shouldn't have to turn your wrist to see the time.
Yes, you are both right, the notifications are customizable, and this time (trial) around, I turned off most of them except for the most "important" ones, such as Phone, Messages, Emails, HomeKit and Ring, Fitness, and maybe another app or two that I can't even think of at the moment. Still, this is my problem with it. I sit at a work desk, my phone is on a wireless stand up charger. Before, a notification would come in, the phone's screen would light up, I could glance over at it out of the corner of my eye, and judge whether the notification was something I needed to address now or something to ignore or maybe look at later. Now, when I get a text or email or whatever notification, the phone doesn't light up, instead my wrist dings and I instinctively turn my wrist and my attention to the watch on my wrist. Admittedly, this has become less of a problem this time around since I've disabled most of the notifications, but then it makes you wonder why have the watch if you're going to be disabling features. I've had a problem with the way notifications either light up the phone OR the watch BUT NOT BOTH, from the beginning.
 
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As I read your response my first thought was “this is absolutely correct!”

But now I’m thinking that if my iPhone can detect that my body is actually moving x steps, shouldn’t it also be able to reasonably assume that said movement required me to be in a standing position? I didn’t walk my dog around the block without standing.

5:30am brain musings…
Well, it can, but the thing is, the Move ring works based of perceived algorithm calorie burns based on steps. The Stand ring needs to sense blood flow & gyroscopic change to detect that there is a minimum movement every 60 minutes.

That said, your theory is correct. The problem is how to enable Stand effectively when you are in an office space and haven't done any movement? Stand becomes more difficult to emulate.
 
Anyone know if the fitness rings will sync up with data from a third party watch like a Garmin?
Talking to someone in another thread this is what he says:

I use my Garmin watch for workouts and running, but syncing it to the iPhone using RunGap (the normal sync is missing a lot of data). All workout are now in the Fitness app, completing the red ring.
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Just the red ring, and that uses information about exercises that it's received from Garmin (via RunGap and Health).

 
Unfortunately, I think you're completely correct. I just dont thing the AW is for me. I buy it around the summer on what seems like every year or other year, I'm on my fourth one, I really really really try to like it, but I always end up returning it, typically within a month to a month and a half.

As I said, I don't care for it as a watch, and I don't need another phone on my wrist (I'm one of those that always has his phone on him, and so the watch as a phone replacement is unnecessary for me). But I do love it for forcing me to exercise...because those damn rings.

So has anyone gotten the new Move only Ring WITHOUT WATCH to work? And if so how?
I don't get it. You're sure the AW isn't for you and you say you hate everything about it, but yet you desperately want a workaround to recreate the best/biggest feature of the AW.
Yes, you are both right, the notifications are customizable, and this time (trial) around, I turned off most of them except for the most "important" ones, such as Phone, Messages, Emails, HomeKit and Ring, Fitness, and maybe another app or two that I can't even think of at the moment. Still, this is my problem with it. I sit at a work desk, my phone is on a wireless stand up charger. Before, a notification would come in, the phone's screen would light up, I could glance over at it out of the corner of my eye, and judge whether the notification was something I needed to address now or something to ignore or maybe look at later. Now, when I get a text or email or whatever notification, the phone doesn't light up, instead my wrist dings and I instinctively turn my wrist and my attention to the watch on my wrist. Admittedly, this has become less of a problem this time around since I've disabled most of the notifications, but then it makes you wonder why have the watch if you're going to be disabling features. I've had a problem with the way notifications either light up the phone OR the watch BUT NOT BOTH, from the beginning.
You don't like notifications on the AW but it sounds like you've disabled them on the phone and left them on for the AW. Just disable them for the AW itself and they still appear on the phone.

I have strategically allowed certain notifications on my AWs and still get all my notifications on my iPhones.
 
I use an Garmin Fenix 7 and sync to Apple Health. Does this mean that the Workout app will collect data from my Garmin through Apple Health or only from iPhone/Apple Watch?

Edit: Just noticed that this was asked before.
 
One thing that's disappointing is that Activity doesn't seem to switch between phone and watch very well.

For example, I was charging my watch for a bit and assumed activity would switch to my phone for a few hours but it did not seem to. My phone still recorded my steps but did not fill the rings.
 
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