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aleni

macrumors 68030
Jun 2, 2006
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Eh, I was able to switch from 4.5 years on iPhone without trouble. I own a Mac Pro Mac Book Pro, iPad, and other things with a big iTunes library, some calendar stuff and contacts bookmarks etc and am not feeling the pain.

yes you can work it out, but it's not automated, probably for most consumers, they prefer the easy way.

I use an Android phone, use and iPad and use a Windows PC

works out fine.

yes, works out fine, because u have ipad which is in the iOS ecosystem.
 

1rottenapple

macrumors 601
Apr 21, 2004
4,702
2,719
Had a co-worker move from his 4S to a One X and after a month came back because of the same reasons. The stronger the ecosystem the stronger the gravitational pull to iOS becomes.

Yes it's super hard. I still love google… gmail, google news, google music to back up my mp3 library. And google voice, but I also love having iMessage on my ipad and iPhone. And all the apps for iOS.
 

Daysight

macrumors regular
Dec 15, 2011
192
1
I for one am pretty tired of same old thing. Realistically speaking not much has changed in the iPhone ecosystem in the 5 years it has been here. If it wasn't for the fact that I have set up my entire electronic universe in the Apple ecosystem I would gladly move to a new OS if only to see what else is going on.
That'll change as the years go by and life gets more complicated. I love finally having a stable, coordinated Apple digital system quietly integrating my information and devices in the background while I get on with other things. My days of early adopting for the fun of it are long done. My first PDA was a Palm Pilot, and I've messed with a lot of desktop and mobile options since then.
 

NATO

macrumors 68000
Feb 14, 2005
1,702
35
Northern Ireland
I drifted off to a Nokia Lumia Windows phone for a while but quickly came back once I realised how much I missed a lot of the iOS integration across iPhone/iPad/OS X.

For example, it is a complete pain to get contacts synced to Windows Phone as well as being synced with OS X. I could use Google contacts but it has that stupid 'bug' where people's pictures are resized to 96x96 and makes them look really awful when they call and appear on the screen.

Calendars are the same, I could try to get them ported to Google Calendars but then I miss the little things that iOS/OS X offers to make syncing, using and sharing the calendars across multiple devices a bit nicer.

Reminders app, shared across multiple devices (and shared reminders with the missus) are something I couldn't have on the Windows Phone.

Notes app shared on all my devices was really handy, something I missed using the Windows Phone

iMessage is really useful for me to communicate with friends abroad for free (plus the read/delivered indications) was something I missed.

Just a few of the things that irked me, none of them actually a flaw with the Windows Phone actually, it's just that the iCloud features of iOS just make using multiple Apple devices a joy and once you try using a different phone unplugged from that environment you realise just how much you miss it.

I mean, if I could have iOS on a Nokia Lumia 920 I would be all over it but I went for the iPhone 5 instead, despite my reservations about the smaller screen etc. Right now it's not REALLY the hardware holding me to Apple but more it's range of apps and services across the platform that are too hard to unplug from.
 

M5RahuL

macrumors 68040
Aug 1, 2009
3,410
2,030
TeXaS
Just borrowed the Note 2 from a friend to try... So far, it's great, but then I'm very familiar with Android OS and just as invested in it's ecosystem.

Going to give it at least a week before deciding. Jelly Bean is pretty darn good! :)
 

takeshi74

macrumors 601
Feb 9, 2011
4,974
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You begin to realise that you do infact need the iphone if your going to live in this ecosystem
Subjective matter. Don't confuse "you" and "I". The importance of the "ecosystem" isn't the same for everyone. Don't just assume that your preferences are universal no matter what the topic.
 

VandyChem2009

macrumors 6502a
Oct 25, 2011
528
0
Houston, Texas
Subjective matter. Don't confuse "you" and "I". The importance of the "ecosystem" isn't the same for everyone. Don't just assume that your preferences are universal no matter what the topic.

If you're going to live in the ecosystem you do need the iPhone. You can't really say you are living in an Apple ecosystem and not have the phone. Doesn't really make sense.
 

Bob Coxner

macrumors 6502a
Mar 24, 2011
854
58
If you're going to live in the ecosystem you do need the iPhone. You can't really say you are living in an Apple ecosystem and not have the phone. Doesn't really make sense.

My iPod Touch 5G, iPad 3, MBA 2011 and Android phone doesn't make sense? It certainly feels like I'm pretty deep in the Apple ecosystem. I use the phone to make phone calls, even thought I guess that means I'm a Luddite.
 

ixodes

macrumors 601
Jan 11, 2012
4,429
3
Pacific Coast, USA
but its when you start depend on the apple 'ecosystem' is when you realise how much you kind of need the iPhone.

I have an iMac, I have an iPad, I have a macbook pro and I have an iPod nano. I alway use these devices, wether its for doing some work, creating/updating contacts, booking calendar dates, surfing the web, listening to music and all other different kind of things.

You begin to realise that you do infact need the iphone if your going to live in this ecosystem, my calendar, contacts, bookmarks, music and everything else is all update and always available to me on my iPhone and its made life so much easier now.

I'm glad you are enjoying your iPhone 5, but no one _needs and iPhone, nor do they _need_ an Android phone... it's choice. This very misleading post is filled with incorrect information. I don't think you've intentionally mislead anyone, it's just that you don't know any better.

I live and work in a cross platform environment.

My Thinkpads, MacBook's (Pros & Airs) my iPad 4, iPad mini, Nexus 7 all interface (sync) instantly with every other device in both eco-systems. All my contacts, calendar, task list, notes, music, photos, presentations, it all is immediately available to me no matter if I choose to use my iPhone or an Android phone on any given day.

Long gone are the days when one must have "All Apple" or "All Android"

At work we are given the choice of an iPhone 5, or a Galaxy S III, this from a huge multinational company with thousands of employees, also in a multi-platform environment.

So I though I'd simply check in here for those with less experience that may have read your post and came away with the idea that one cannot use and enjoy Android, iOS, Windows, or Macs just because they come from different manufacturers.
 

IFRIT

macrumors 6502a
Oct 15, 2012
840
137
It's mostly the inferior apps of Android that get me. Also yes everything with the iPhone is highly organized and tightly integrated while Android felt so sloppy and all over the place. No easy way to backup/restore data like the iPhone.

There are plenty of ways...
 

RealSkyDiver

macrumors 6502a
Jun 15, 2010
570
167
i was an iphone owner of all version all the way up to the 3gs, i skipped the iphone 4 and 4s in favour of a couple of an droid phones, first the nexus s and then the galaxy s ii. Now yes it was a nice change and it was fairly easy to ues these phones, but its when you start depend on the apple 'ecosystem' is when you realise how much you kind of need the iphone.

I have an imac, i have an ipad, i have a macbook pro and i have an ipod nano. I alway use these devices, wether its for doing some work, creating/updating contacts, booking calendar dates, surfing the web, listening to music and all other different kind of things.

You begin to realise that you do infact need the iphone if your going to live in this ecosystem, my calendar, contacts, bookmarks, music and everything else is all update and always available to me on my iphone and its made life so much easier now. I have managed to replace my ipod with this phone, i have started to use it more then my ipad because its alot more portable and im using it alot more then android and not just for games, not just for calls but for doing almost everything in life and whereas on the droid it was really just phone, notes and games.

I guess in short, i have missed the iphone and i am happy to be back and on the iphone bandwagon again and the iphone 5 is the best phone i have ever owned.

Thats all really, thanks lol

it's a trap!
 

aerok

macrumors 65816
Oct 29, 2011
1,491
139
I don't understand how could anyone change his iphone after buying hundred or thousands of dollars in apps, music, movies, etc, etc.

With every new iphone you can use the same apps you have already buy, also you can use them in your ipad, ipod, and other family iphones.

It is not easy to drop your love apps only because you want to test an android phone.

Also I would be scared to use an Android phone because there is a lot of malware and virus in their apps, it is very insecure.

On my 2 years of using the iPhone, I spent about $50 on apps, way more on music but that does not matter as they can be transferred to other phones.

Most of the apps I use are free ones (banking and news) so it does not bother me at all changing ecosystems.

And no, Android is not full of malware or virus, stop it with your fictional gibberish.
 

VandyChem2009

macrumors 6502a
Oct 25, 2011
528
0
Houston, Texas
My iPod Touch 5G, iPad 3, MBA 2011 and Android phone doesn't make sense? It certainly feels like I'm pretty deep in the Apple ecosystem. I use the phone to make phone calls, even thought I guess that means I'm a Luddite.

At the end of the day you can define ecosystem however you want but they way Apple intends it is for you to have all your major electronic devices to be manufactured by them. Having your phone the device you arguably use the most be Android puts you quite a bit off of the typical Apple ecosystem

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On my 2 years of using the iPhone, I spent about $50 on apps, way more on music but that does not matter as they can be transferred to other phones.

Most of the apps I use are free ones (banking and news) so it does not bother me at all changing ecosystems.

And no, Android is not full of malware or virus, stop it with your fictional gibberish.

Comparably speaking it is full of malwar and viruses.
 

VandyChem2009

macrumors 6502a
Oct 25, 2011
528
0
Houston, Texas
Nope, not even. Find me one case of someone being affected by malware/spyware with Android.

Compare that to iPhone, how many threads do you see online about people being stuck with porn pop-ups on the iPhone? Here's one:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1381277/

My mistake I was not specific with what I meant. Comparably speaking the App Market is full of malware/spyware when compared to Apple's App Store.
 

aerok

macrumors 65816
Oct 29, 2011
1,491
139
A simple google search of possible ramifications of spyware/malware from Play Store will give you plenty to read about.

Post them then

The same way I posted for the iPhone malware. Concrete exmaples of users complaining.
 
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VandyChem2009

macrumors 6502a
Oct 25, 2011
528
0
Houston, Texas
Post them then

The same way I posted for the iPhone malware. Concrete exmaples of users complaining.

http://www.androidcentral.com/tags/malware

http://www.androidcentral.com/fbi-issues-android-malware-warning-forgets-how-apps-work

http://www.androidcentral.com/new-malware-could-allow-sms-phishing-sideloaders-beware

Now I didn't want to make myself a member of any of the forums so that i could conduct a search however, the comments on these articles along with the articles themselves is testament enough of the fact that malware is present in the Play Store something you don't need to worry about with the Apple App Store. I will note that the Play Store is implementing mechanisms to get rid of them quicker so I'd say in the not very distant future this will be a non-issue.
 

aerok

macrumors 65816
Oct 29, 2011
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http://www.androidcentral.com/tags/malware

http://www.androidcentral.com/fbi-issues-android-malware-warning-forgets-how-apps-work

http://www.androidcentral.com/new-malware-could-allow-sms-phishing-sideloaders-beware

Now I didn't want to make myself a member of any of the forums so that i could conduct a search however, the comments on these articles along with the articles themselves is testament enough of the fact that malware is present in the Play Store something you don't need to worry about with the Apple App Store. I will note that the Play Store is implementing mechanisms to get rid of them quicker so I'd say in the not very distant future this will be a non-issue.

Malware is present, I never denied that. What I'm asking for is proof that this is affecting users in any ways. This is still a non-issue, scanner or not.
 

VandyChem2009

macrumors 6502a
Oct 25, 2011
528
0
Houston, Texas
Malware is present, I never denied that. What I'm asking for is proof that this is affecting users in any ways. This is still a non-issue, scanner or not.

If it wasn't an issue steps wouldn't be take to get rid of it. The fact that they are doing things to get rid of the malware is testament to the fact that it is in fact an issue. Obviously, however, we are both pretty set in our idea so this arguing back and forth is getting us no where. On a side note that user got the malware from an email something that would have happened regardless if the phone was android or iOS. Good day sir.
 

SlasherDuff

macrumors 6502a
Apr 7, 2008
548
0
Gator Country
The iPhone 4S is my first ever iPhone and I love it so much i can't detach myself from it.

I admit though I am afraid of Android, simply because I have never used it before, and it looks complicated to learn. I have been an iOS user since 2007 and love how easy it is to use.
 

aerok

macrumors 65816
Oct 29, 2011
1,491
139
If it wasn't an issue steps wouldn't be take to get rid of it. The fact that they are doing things to get rid of the malware is testament to the fact that it is in fact an issue. Obviously, however, we are both pretty set in our idea so this arguing back and forth is getting us no where. On a side note that user got the malware from an email something that would have happened regardless if the phone was android or iOS. Good day sir.

Nope the email only affect iPhones. It seems to be a PDF file made to work only on iOS. Malwares can usually only corrupt one OS.

Your reasoning on why this is an issue is not strong at all. You just seem to be denying the truth, to convince yourself the iPhone is better no matter what. Good day.
 
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