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iPhone 17 Pro Max You guys aren’t seriously considering buying a “Folding” iPhone Are you ?

uacd said:
From now on I am not considering to buying any new iPhones at all, especially folding ones. I stupidly bought 17 Pro and honestly I now want to get rid of it, such a poor phone that doesn’t hold up to the name “smartphone”. Because it is dumb and useless, and what does that Pro even mean? Procrastination?
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It means you get fancier mics and you get a fancier camera array.
 
The idea is appealing, I'd love to unfold a bigger screen for a number of purposes. A first version should usually be skipped, and I'm not too keen on getting worse cameras than the Pro models, so we'll see.
 
Happy_John said:
It means you get fancier mics and you get a fancier camera array.
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Fancy?

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Happy_John said:
It means you get fancier mics and you get a fancier camera array.
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Nothing fancy tbh. AI on that phone blocks all the noises and doesn’t even give control to change that behavior anymore. So when you call someone all the other person is hearing are human voices - you can’t even share the atmosphere of the place. It even blocks cats meowing or birds chirping in the background. It has a huge downside too - when someone calling from crowded place, the mic gets “overcrowded” with other people speaking and you can’t hear anything from the person you are speaking to.

Not impressed with cameras either. Soft focus, poor computational pipeline, well maybe a nice telephoto but it still sucks anyway due to all the processing and relatively small sensor size (especially comparing to competitors).

Maybe my new phone won’t be an iPhone this time. Unless something would change under John Ternus. There must be some tectonic changes though.
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UPD: nevermind. I didn’t know there are actual audio controls now

Thank you to @ZebraDude for hinting out at that functionality. I feel stupid now😃
 
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uacd said:
Nothing fancy tbh. AI on that phone blocks all the noises and doesn’t even give control to change that behavior anymore. So when you call someone all the other person is hearing are human voices - you can’t even share the atmosphere of the place. It even blocks cats meowing or birds chirping in the background. It has a huge downside too - when someone calling from crowded place, the mic gets “overcrowded” with other people speaking and you can’t hear anything from the person you are speaking to.

Not impressed with cameras either. Soft focus, poor computational pipeline, well maybe a nice telephoto but it still sucks anyway due to all the processing and relatively small sensor size (especially comparing to competitors).

Maybe my new phone won’t be an iPhone this time. Unless something would change under John Ternus. There must be some tectonic changes though
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It’s not a review. It’s not an opinion.

The question was “what makes an iPhone pro a pro”, i,e, What distinguishes the prov model from the non-pro model?

These days it’s simply the mics and camera array. That’s the main distinction.
 
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Happy_John said:
It’s not a review. It’s not an opinion.

The question was “what makes an iPhone pro a pro”, i,e, What distinguishes the prov model from the non-pro model.

These days it’s simply the mics and camera array. That’s the main distinction.
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Indeed, I agree.

I saw that things are even funnier with some competitors. They would often have 5 different device tiers and would differentiate them by processor type, camera module installed, even by the lack or presence of water protection. And differentiation sounds like “Pro” “Pro+” “Ultra”, I.e. some absolutely ridiculous naming schemes.

I really miss the days when we had just one iPhone
 
Yes, I will very likely be trading in both my current iPhone, and likely my iPad as well, for the folding iPhone.
Price? Well as I just said, I’m trading in two devices for one, but also I think the price element is being overstated a bit. Even with the current iPhone Pro Max, if you do literally any storage upgrades, buy any slightly premium accessories, anything, you’re already closer to $2000 then $1000 in terms of pure price. Plus smart phones are already backed up by tons of carrier plans, discounts, trade-ins and monthly installments that you are never going to actually see the $2000+ leave your account unless you literally just purchased a phone unlocked completely outright with absolutely no trade-ins. That’s not how most people buy phones.
Durability? One word, AppleCare. I already pay for it on my iPhone and my iPad, getting rid of both and replacing it with one device likely won’t be changing the price very much. And if the durability is that horrible, if it’s truly another “butterfly keyboard” situation, Apple will pay just like they did with the butterfly keyboard.

Seriously, these criticisms just seem so lame to me. The foldable market is pretty set, Samsung sells over 5 million foldable every year and their top-of-the-line starts out at $2000 just like Apple’s will. If Samsung can sell $2000 phones in the seven digits, Apple can sell $2000 phones in the eight digits.
People keep trying to compare this to the launch of the Vision Pro, but there’s no comparison to be made other than both are expensive.
The Vision Pro is a big unknown product in a very not well developed product category with absolutely no carriers or payment options behind it, with an unknown use case and an undeveloped audience.
The folding iPhone is… Just another smart phone. People know what smart phones are, people have smart phones, people use smart phones, people pay a lot of money for smart phones. It’s not comparable to the headset at all, because a headset is not a smart phone.
 
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seek3r said:
You would buy a phone to impress people?
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actually the people I associate with (retired engineers and scientists) would be more impressed by some ancient piece of technology that continues to function (inherent cheapness maybe)
 
TheRealAlex said:
You know they are just Glueing together two iPhone Airs, Same camera trade offs, dual thin batteries.
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Dual iPhone Air batteries would likely result in the best battery life of any iPhone to date, even in the larger screen of a foldable iPhone since screen size and battery life are not a 1:1 relationship.
 
The big screen is the biggest draw.

I like the shorter screen. I think that outer screen will be awesome.
 
TheRealAlex said:
Anyone here deliberately going to buy a Folding iPhone please share with us Why ? And $1,000 Extra on top of regular iPhone Pro Max prices allegedly.
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Very likely, if I can afford it. I’ll replace two devices with one — iPad mini (current) and iPhone 12 mini. (You might see a pattern here.) When folded the new phone will be closer in size to my iPhone 12 mini than to any of the current phones. Unfolded it’ll give me a large iPad-ish screen a bit smaller than my current iPad. One device will mean apps and data are always where I expect them. I hope the Fold supports the Pencil and the iPad multitasking features — I don’t use either much but many people do.
 
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Abydos said:
actually the people I associate with (retired engineers and scientists) would be more impressed by some ancient piece of technology that continues to function (inherent cheapness maybe)
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It's a sun dial, an abacus, and a scroll.
It's a sun dial, an abacus, and a scroll.
It's a sun dial, an abacus, and a scroll.
Are you getting it yet?

-Stevenus Jobsicus circa 200BC, maybe
 
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Why are some people so judgemental about what others do and do not like/buy/use?!

You can be uninterested in something without thinking owners or enthusiasts are morons…

For the record: I’m all over this thing. It will replace my phone and tablet into one device. Plus, I just like new and fun tech. I’m pumped!!!! 🤓👍
 
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