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Really? See my questions posed in post #24 and see if you can answer them.

You already know what I'm gonna tell you. If you don't like the way iOS handles stuff, suck it up or leave. Asking other users to answer why it doesn't work exactly the way you want it to will not help anything. And yes you can go to android to complete this task, nobody will care or bat an eye.
 
too be honest, it really is the most basic thing any 99 dollar phone can do.

it bothered me more often recently as i had to send some files to agencies and i needed to have the whole conversation attached so they even know what i am talking about and it simply wasnt possible
 
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too be honest, it really is the most basic thing any 99 dollar phone can do.

it bothered me more often recently as i had to send some files to agencies and i needed to have the whole conversation attached so they even know what i am talking about and it simply wasnt possible

The most basic $99 phones aren't smart phones with third party developed apps.

Other smartphones OS's aren't sandboxed to the same degree iOS was designed to be. Where the file system is off limits, and the apps are walled off. Handling their own file systems and databases independently and differing dev to dev.

Again. I'll reiterate. It's a case of, you don't like how Apple designs their OS. Move on.

You can copy paste from an app, into an in process email.
 
You can. Just not through the email app itself. For example, open Adobe Reader, open a PDF you previously saved to the Adobe Reader app, then share with email.

You are limited to one PDF. However it is possible.

This is a pita for me because I'll need to send and receive several pdf's a day.

Goodreader also lets you send multiple PDFs in a single email - another option for you but of course no use to the OP regarding replying to an email.
 
The most basic $99 phones aren't smart phones with third party developed apps.

Other smartphones OS's aren't sandboxed to the same degree iOS was designed to be. Where the file system is off limits, and the apps are walled off. Handling their own file systems and databases independently and differing dev to dev.

Again. I'll reiterate. It's a case of, you don't like how Apple designs their OS. Move on.

You can copy paste from an app, into an in process email.

Once I need to send my father an instruction on updating his TV box. The email includes a .zip file and a text document for the instructions. I am not asking more, tell me how is this done on iOS?

It is not about wether file system is evil or not, it is about getting simple things done and do it quickly efficiently.

A $700 phone shoud not relys on bunch of app just to write an email. This is absurd and stupid.

Android also does not come with a file explorer by dafult, but at least you get file explorer on Play Store that can accessing root directory. This is not like asking Apple to grand users privilege to modifying system file, it is asking about most basically functionality. If you think this is troll.. I don't know anything that is not troll...maybe just posting how wonderful iOS is.
 
Once I need to send my father an instruction on updating his TV box. The email includes a .zip file and a text document for the instructions. I am not asking more, tell me how is this done on iOS?

It is not about wether file system is evil or not, it is about getting simple things done and do it quickly efficiently.

A $700 phone shoud not relys on bunch of app just to write an email. This is absurd and stupid.

Android also does not come with a file explorer by dafult, but at least you get file explorer on Play Store that can accessing root directory. This is not like asking Apple to grand users privilege to modifying system file, it is asking about most basically functionality. If you think this is troll.. I don't know anything that is not troll...maybe just posting how wonderful iOS is.

I agree it is restrictive but the issue is if you have a single malicious file and everything has access to it then that file can impact the whole system, access contact information, send emails etc.
By sandboxing each app, a malicious file can only impact that one app and any relation with another app needs to be instigated by the user. That is why a single app like GoodReader is so valuable to many users. You can store all your relevant files in GoodReader and select both the zip file and text document to email in a single transaction using the example you gave above. While these limitations do have an impact on the user, that is not the reason why these limitations are there in the first place.
Don't get me wrong, Apple do impose other limitations that are to the detriment of the user for their own gains such as limited access to hardware decoding for non Apple supported video formats as an example but that is a whole other discussion.
 
"Simple and crucial" are defined by the user -- not the device. If it's crucial to you then shop devices that offer the feature. No one person's needs define the needs for everyone else.

I'm so tired of hearing that excuse. It makes me laugh and cringe at the same time. Really? So instead of suggesting it and adding it, let's just start telling people to go buy a different product. WTF? Do you work for Google or Samsung?
 
The most basic $99 phones aren't smart phones with third party developed apps.

Other smartphones OS's aren't sandboxed to the same degree iOS was designed to be. Where the file system is off limits, and the apps are walled off. Handling their own file systems and databases independently and differing dev to dev.

Again. I'll reiterate. It's a case of, you don't like how Apple designs their OS. Move on.

You can copy paste from an app, into an in process email.

Jeeze take a breathe. Just because i am using something doesnt mean it does not leave room for improvements and criticm. Otherwise we would be stuck without copy&paste on the iPhone still ^^. You act like i offended your girlfriend or something.
 
I agree it is restrictive but the issue is if you have a single malicious file and everything has access to it then that file can impact the whole system, access contact information, send emails etc.
By sandboxing each app, a malicious file can only impact that one app and any relation with another app needs to be instigated by the user. That is why a single app like GoodReader is so valuable to many users. You can store all your relevant files in GoodReader and select both the zip file and text document to email in a single transaction using the example you gave above. While these limitations do have an impact on the user, that is not the reason why these limitations are there in the first place.
Don't get me wrong, Apple do impose other limitations that are to the detriment of the user for their own gains such as limited access to hardware decoding for non Apple supported video formats as an example but that is a whole other discussion.

Well I am talking about sending file, not receiving file. But when it comes to malicious file, since you cannot run any unauthorized code, I think this isn't a big problem.

If Apple want iPad be the Post-PC device, then it has to accomplish these tasks relative easily.
 
iOS does not have a file system that is exposed to the user, but many apps (photo browser, numbers, pages, iphoto, etc) allow you to do just what you say can't be done. btw, my phone is not jailbroken.

Thank you for saving me time in typing out exactly what you did :D
 
Well I am talking about sending file, not receiving file. But when it comes to malicious file, since you cannot run any unauthorized code, I think this isn't a big problem.

If Apple want iPad be the Post-PC device, then it has to accomplish these tasks relative easily.

I completely agree with that. That's how iPad was marketed, as the Post-PC device, but now there are new devices that can do what the iPad can't, such as this simple task of sending files from within the email application. I really do think it would be nice to have this added. I think, maybe, they will eventually add it. At least I'm hoping they will.

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Thank you for saving me time in typing out exactly what you did :D

Haha. Good one. :) I think what he means is if you go to those apps, you can attach whatever you are looking at to the email. That's still annoying though. I've tried to attach multiple files in the past to an email, but it wouldn't work. Pictures specifically. I think it works now, but still from the Photos app. In iOS 7, you can attach multiple pictures now, which is awesome. That's why I think eventually they will add full support to the Email app. Hopefully. I don't want to put my foot in my mouth.

Who knows, maybe there's something that I'm missing that will make it easier too.

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You already know what I'm gonna tell you. If you don't like the way iOS handles stuff, suck it up or leave. Asking other users to answer why it doesn't work exactly the way you want it to will not help anything. And yes you can go to android to complete this task, nobody will care or bat an eye.

Until more and more people start switching. You must not be good at business, are you? Instead of making products better, let's just tell the customers to shove it.
 
Seems very nit picky. You can email files (including pdf) about 20 different ways. The easiest is to simply open it and mail it directly. Granted, slightly less convenient that being able to mail from within the email app...but only slightly.
 
Yes I know but it would be easier if it could be attached right from the mail app. It does not really effect me as I rarely send PDFs. But when I do its just an unnecessary annoyance. :rolleyes:

Go through it logically for a second. In order to attach files directly from the mail client, ios would need to introduce a visible file system (where are the PDFs that you are trying to attach?). That means that the file system would also need to show when you download anything. It also means all other apps will need to display the file system.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you. I'm just pointing out that it's not a simple case of displaying the attach button. It would actually require a fundamental shift in philosophy in how ios works.
 
I don't care which OS is your favorite, it's ridiculous that such a mundane thing such as attaching a PDF requires workarounds and can't be done directly in the native app.

By work around, I assume you mean opening the file and and hitting the send to button? Doesn't sound like a work around, but just another way of doing it. It's not complicated or difficult and it's very intuitive. Granted having the option to attach a file from within the email app would be nice, but it doesn't require a workaround.
 
too be honest, it really is the most basic thing any 99 dollar phone can do.

it bothered me more often recently as i had to send some files to agencies and i needed to have the whole conversation attached so they even know what i am talking about and it simply wasnt possible

to forward a single PDF (or other attachment) from an email just hold the attachment icon and then choose to send a new email...no need to send the whole combo

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By work around, I assume you mean opening the file and and hitting the send to button? Doesn't sound like a work around, but just another way of doing it. It's not complicated or difficult and it's very intuitive. Granted having the option to attach a file from within the email app would be nice, but it doesn't require a workaround.

Agreed. At work I see folks e-mail documents from inside apps, e.g., Word, and while it seems bass-ackwards it is a legitimate way to send files. A purest would say that leaving the app that created a document, opening an e-mail app, and then finding the file in a file system (to mail it) is disruptive and counter-intuitive. iOS just works differently.
 
MailAnyfile

You can use this app, its called Mailanyfile


https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mailanyfile/id942263126?ls=1&mt=8



it allows you to download/import any file and then attach it to your email.

- Save any file from Safari, Mail app or our built-in browser to your phone and simply attach it to your email.
- Attach any Office documents, music, videos and PDFs etc.
- Import files from Photos, Dropbox.
- Supports Gmail, Hotmail, Outlook, Exchange, Yahoo, AOL.
 
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