While the Webkit rendering engine is one of the most advanced, Safari's UI features are limited compared to competitors. Which is why I call it a basic browser. Addons extend this a bit but not to the level of Firefox, Chrome or Opera.
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While the Webkit rendering engine is one of the most advanced, Safari's UI features are limited compared to competitors. Which is why I call it a basic browser. Addons extend this a bit but not to the level of Firefox, Chrome or Opera.
I don't really see much point in Chrome, if I'm honest. It just looks like Firefox in a baby outfit to me. True, there may be some milli-second difference in speed, but for now, I stick with the best and original... Safari.
Unfortunately I am using Chrome now. I find that Firefox takes too long to start up and load up all the tabs, and after stuffing over 500 unfoldered bookmarks in the Bookmarks Menu I have decided to give up.
... :\ I miss DownThemAll.
... :\ I miss DownThemAll.
Thankyou, thankyou....
Not that i use Safari or Chrome... but Opera.
Which has suffered from lack of touchpad supoort..... until now. Hah.
Excellent.
thanks again....
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Chrome dev channel has working addons just fine, including adblock adblock+ all that. The arguments for Firefox because of its addons are moot at this point. Most of the best have already been ported, theres even a version of firebug for chrome.
Awesome bar? Anyone who cares about awesome bar apparently hasn't played with chrome bar at all, has all the same features and some that are better, including support for search engines that aren't google (ie. type yahoo searchstring and get results in yahoo).
Chrome does this with its recently closed tabs when you click that + to make a new tab no sweat.
As for stuff the others don't have how about built in bookmark synching with your google account, thats saved in google docs, so hey you can use them in whatever browser really. How bout intuitive keyboard controls, why pinch when you can command + and -. Check out the keyboard controls sometime.
How about tight integration with google apps, like opening pdfs in google docs instead of adobe plugin?
Then theres speed naturally, which everyone already knows chrome wins there hands down.
Reliability? I'm using the dev channel version I have yet to hit a crash and I use it for all my browsing. Keep in mind each tab in chrome is a separate process, which is a far more reliable model than other tabbed browsers.
Beta? Gmail was in beta for years, google never knew how to use the word beta right in regards to software.
As for the spying, do you use a search engine? Your data is being collected by someone. Google is a ad revenue based company, they care about your individual data only so much as it helps them generate ad revenue. They don't care about people, they care about demographics, and so does any other search engine you are going to find thats good for anything.
I do prefer chrome at the moment, but I would switch away the minute something else came along that had better features. I'm a fan of whatever does the job best, and for me at the moment its chrome.
If you guys want to settle this I guess that you need 2 browsers on your computer:
1-Safari/Chrome
1-Firefox/Camino
They have different ways of rendering websites. While Safari and Chrome go head to head, Firefox has add-ons and Camino is only a more stylish FireFox. If you apply Camino theme for Firefox then you are all ready and set.
Its hard to see a use for Camino in between FireFox/Chrome/Safari.
The browsers that are making me wonder are Opera and OmniWeb. I am not sure who uses them and why are they still being supported
1-Safari/Chrome
1-Firefox/Camino
They have different ways of rendering websites. While Safari and Chrome go head to head, Firefox has add-ons and Camino is only a more stylish FireFox. If you apply Camino theme for Firefox then you are all ready and set.
Its hard to see a use for Camino in between FireFox/Chrome/Safari.
The browsers that are making me wonder are Opera and OmniWeb. I am not sure who uses them and why are they still being supported
The addons for Chrome are still nowhere near the same level as Firefox, but then again FF has a several year long advantage in that area. For example with the adblock extensions the main problems are that they don't allow blocking whatever you want as easily as Adblock+ and don't seem to hide all ads despite using the same EasyList etc block lists. Likewise Xmarks bookmark syncing doesn't support password syncing yet and has some bugs left. I'm sure in time they'll be just as good as Firefox versions.
There is no Firebug for Chrome, just Firebug Lite which isn't the same thing at all. However, Chrome has pretty good developer tools built-in so it's not a big deal.
Never used OmniWeb, but it seems like yet another Webkit-based browser with bunch of useful extra features with a native OSX style user interface.
Opera on the other hand is still the most feature packed browser out of the box and has been a pioneer of many features now ported to various other browsers. Their main problem is that the UI has had clunky, awkward stuff for years and always seems to have some usability problems. I also don't see much point in having a torrent and e-mail client (especially since both are frankly a bit crap) in the same program. I was a Opera user until Firefox 3 because Opera was much faster and more usable, but FF has caught up and surpassed Opera IMO. Opera is getting better but at the moment doesn't really have any must-have killer features to choose it over other browsers.
Why??? Just use one. I use the browser bundled with the Operating System, unless it proves useless in stability and showing webpages (which would be the whole point of a browser.... would it not?)
Why need two? Just use the one which works, which 9/10 times it has been the one provided with the Operating System for me.
The apple protectionism in some of these posts is ridiculous. Lol.
Chrome is faster and more stable for me (oh the irony of beta software being more stable than apple's own browser on its own platform). Safari gave me beach balls all day every day and I abandoned it the day Chrome was available. (Firefox is too slow on my MBP, and I only use it at work as an alternative to IE....yuck.)
Lack of a bookmark manager and plug-ins (I don't mess w/ the developer builds) is annoying, but it's been worth it to me to forgo these in favor of a faster and more stable browser.
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Chrome is faster and more stable for me (oh the irony of beta software being more stable than apple's own browser on its own platform). Safari gave me beach balls all day every day and I abandoned it the day Chrome was available. (Firefox is too slow on my MBP, and I only use it at work as an alternative to IE....yuck.)
Lack of a bookmark manager and plug-ins (I don't mess w/ the developer builds) is annoying, but it's been worth it to me to forgo these in favor of a faster and more stable browser.
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I happen to use 4 constantly .. Safari: Youtube and other things; Chrome for general browsing; Firefox for porn only; Flock for social networking, reading the news, and reading forums.
Just tried out Firefox 3.6. Very nice, much snappier than before, and I think page loading feels faster. I think this is because Firefox does a slight delay before displaying the page, though, which means that the page looks more completed when it finally starts rendering. Currently looking to see if I can accomplish something like that with Chrome, or something like the old FasterFox technique.
EDIT: Disabling DNS prefetching did the trick. Yay!
EDIT: Disabling DNS prefetching did the trick. Yay!
I personally only use Firefox and Chrome... Safari, IMO, is a POS. It's always crashing / beach-balling in me, especially when I go to flash-heavy pages.
Here is a poll that shows what people are using
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/841098/
Here is a poll that shows what people are using
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/841098/
2 basic reasons for 2 browsers:
1)Add ons
2) Rendering websites. Every now and then I find a website that will work with Firefox and not Safari, I am not sure if the opposite is true.
btw, why aren't all the add-ons are simply shipped with the browser? Why do people have to hunt down for them?
Because they are add-ons. Someone might not need that Facebook plugin while someone else does. Which is why being able to pick them yourself is great. Both Mozilla and Google have good repositories for them too so it's easy.
I like safari but it doesn't have the 'recently closed tabs' option which is a lot easier than sifting through your history.
I like firefox but I can't drag an image straight into photoshop.
Chrome seems to have both these features but is still a little buggy in general, I am looking forward to the finished release as I think it might be a winner for me if they resolve the bugs.
I like firefox but I can't drag an image straight into photoshop.
Chrome seems to have both these features but is still a little buggy in general, I am looking forward to the finished release as I think it might be a winner for me if they resolve the bugs.
Any idea how to uninstall these things? I installed them and I don't like the changes they made to my system.
Ok, I found out, Glims has an uninstaller on their website.
Chrome crashed...so you went back to IE? When was this?
EDIT: The newest dev build fixes a lot of the scrolling issues I had. By "a lot", I mean that I don't notice any outstanding scrolling issues anymore. The bookmark manager is also much better, and the task manager now works.
Here's the full changelog.
So, do plug-ins make the browser heavier?
Maybe not everyone wants a facebook plug-in, but I guess most would like something like Glims?
So, do plug-ins make the browser heavier?
Maybe not everyone wants a facebook plug-in, but I guess most would like something like Glims?
Why need four? I do all of that perfectly well on one browser.
So I don't have to go hunting thru the URL bar for all the sites; the way I have it the URLs for each type are limited to the respective browser (no mix-and-mashed URLs ... no porn beneath MacRumors, for example).
Aye, now I have no real problems with the Mac version of Chrome. In fact I have been using it instead of Firefox now and the only things that really bothered me was the bookmark manager and inability to turn off spellchecking.
Now I just have to wait for the ability to disable spellchecking and for Xmarks to get their **** together and offer full bookmark and password syncing for Chrome.
Yes, plug-ins and extensions increase memory usage. Chrome actually lets you see how much memory is being used by each extension, but apparently the Mac version over-reports that memory usage. Not sure about Windows.
One other cool thing I found out about Chrome is that Greasemonkey scripts are just installed like any other extension. No separate UI for it, and no extension you need to install just to use them in the first place.