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Did you consider construction over the summer? It's hard work but it pays decently. They are always looking for workers. Least around here they are. Just call up a company and you'll pretty much have a job. Also if you can swallow your ego you can always work at McDonnalds. They always seem to be hiring. After all, money is money, isn't it?
I think you didnt get the apple job because your 19. I don't think they want 19 year olds running and helping people in the store around thousand dollar computers. You may be a great person, know tons about macs, but I think it may of had something to do with your age.
DJMastaWes said:
I know two 19 year olds who work at apple stores. I think they are looking for someone who "fits" their image. I mean heck I walk in and like a lot of those employee's don't know jack about how to create a smart photo album in iPhoto or something you know? Or when selling an iPod or a computer to a customer such as a student, the customer will walk away because they felt it was too expensive. The employee didn't even try to MENTION student discount... I mean cmon' simple things like that, but hey apparently they got something I don't. I don't know what it is... Maybe its because a lot of those dudes don't shave, apple likes that rustic look. Meh, /rant...
Apple Store = run by retail managers
rarely will an apple store manager be anything but a retail manager from like macys or sears.
they usually dont know jack about computers and since they are the ones usually interviewing, dont knw half the stuff any Apple-user might spew at an interview.
its quite sad that the apple stores are all about retail and not about technology and stuff.
though lately they have been adding "creative" to their workforce, a position just for tutoring people on mac stuff from mice to FCP.
but if you didnt get hired its cuz you probably have ZERO retail experience, cuz honestly I dont think they care if you are apple certified (unless you are applying for a Genius position) just that you are personable and wont blow up in the face of the 90% who shops there and dont know anything about anything but want something.
the fact its non-commisioned is why you sometimes get lazy apple store employees who know jack.
rarely will an apple store manager be anything but a retail manager from like macys or sears.
they usually dont know jack about computers and since they are the ones usually interviewing, dont knw half the stuff any Apple-user might spew at an interview.
its quite sad that the apple stores are all about retail and not about technology and stuff.
though lately they have been adding "creative" to their workforce, a position just for tutoring people on mac stuff from mice to FCP.
but if you didnt get hired its cuz you probably have ZERO retail experience, cuz honestly I dont think they care if you are apple certified (unless you are applying for a Genius position) just that you are personable and wont blow up in the face of the 90% who shops there and dont know anything about anything but want something.
the fact its non-commisioned is why you sometimes get lazy apple store employees who know jack.
What else would an Apple store be about?Sdashiki said:
It's an Apple retail store. It is there to make sales, to meet quotas. Period. They happen to sell technologically related products, but they're ultimate mission probably is not to enlighten every customer w/ the know-hows of today's tech, but to sell.And why talk down your nose about retail managers? A manager is a manager and still takes quite a bit of skill, patience, and intelligence. People give a lot more attitude and arrogance than machines.
Sorry but an APPLE STORE manager should be, IMO, technologically inclined. I dont think a 19yr old employee of that manager should have to hold the hand of that manager when it comes to questions asked by a random customer.
Of course its a retail store, but adding the genius bar pretty much makes it more than that. And being Apple, people expect something like they expect something from Disney brand. And I think with apple that would be employees that know more than just how to sell, but what it is they are actually selling.
I personally dont like asking for a manager who then refers me to his "Genius" because he hasnt even heard of 50% of the words I used in my question.
Of course its a retail store, but adding the genius bar pretty much makes it more than that. And being Apple, people expect something like they expect something from Disney brand. And I think with apple that would be employees that know more than just how to sell, but what it is they are actually selling.
I personally dont like asking for a manager who then refers me to his "Genius" because he hasnt even heard of 50% of the words I used in my question.
Have you worked retail before? Do you understand the role of managers?Sdashiki said:
Sure they should sell a bit... but they're role "on the floor" isn't necessarily to sell. It's to facilitate. They have to authorize returns, exchanges. They have to sign off of deliveries. They have to make sure employees are getting their breaks and doing their jobs.
Of course of course.
But doesnt a manager need to do the job of his minions should the need arise?
A manager fresh from Sears appliance wont know the difference between an iPod and a MacBook.
But doesnt a manager need to do the job of his minions should the need arise?
A manager fresh from Sears appliance wont know the difference between an iPod and a MacBook.
I'm out of college and I've been looking for a job for a year now. Finally found a teaching position a month ago.
It's the way of life. It's frustrating, I agree, but all you can do is take the beating and keep looking.
It's the way of life. It's frustrating, I agree, but all you can do is take the beating and keep looking.
Who says the manager fresh from Sears appliance knew anything about appliances? And who says the manager fresh from Sears appliance didn't whip that department into shape and post record sales even though he didn't know the finer differences between the effectiveness of the spin cycle on a Kenmore vs. the spin cycle of a whirlpool?Sdashiki said:
Do you expect everyone at Blockbuster to be a movie big buff? Everyone at the grocery store to be a food connoisseur? Everyone at Foot Locker to be wanting a career at Nike? Everyone at Victoria's Secret to be a closet fashion designer?
It's not just Apple, every retail store is like this.
Even if you know everything Apple like the back of your hand can you condense that into usable info (i.e. dumb it down) for the average consumer that just wants a computer? If you speak over the head of the consumer they are likely just to get confused and leave. Knowing a lot about a product and being able to effectively sell that product are two different things.
And the bottom line is, well, the bottom line. Mainstream consumers just aren't willing to pay the extra bucks it would take for retailers to hire/train more knowledge sales people. And retailers don't want to invest too much in training because the average life span a retail employ is like a year or less.
If you want a more knowledgeable sales staff you almost always have to go to a mom and pop store.
Sports analogy time. Should the QB on a pro football team be able to throw the ball better than the head coach?Sdashiki said:
Lethal
Bottom line is that retail is evil plan and simple.
You may be the best person for the job but without knowing the right people or saying the right things they will always go for the butt kisser that puts on a good show in the interview.
This goes for any job, You might have the best ideas and talent and skill but if your resume doesn't look good or if you don't know the right person to get you in the door you will get nowhere.
You may be the best person for the job but without knowing the right people or saying the right things they will always go for the butt kisser that puts on a good show in the interview.
This goes for any job, You might have the best ideas and talent and skill but if your resume doesn't look good or if you don't know the right person to get you in the door you will get nowhere.
And yet somehow I have a job that I got without knowing anyone to help me "get in the door". My resume is only average looking, and I certainly wasn't butt-kissing when I interviewed.MacNut said: