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firelighter487

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yesterday i booted up my dual 2.0 g5, reinstalled leopard on it and set it up to be a secondary pc for my parents/other family members/visitors if they quickly needed to look at the weather forecast, watch a youtube video etc. i used youview to watch youtube video's when i still used the machine as my daily driver (half a year ago), and that worked fine with 720p video. but now it stutters like hell and only plays back 480p video soothly. what could be wrong with my machine that it doesn't play 720p anymore?
 

Hrududu

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Which browser are you using? I find TenFourFox does not handle youtube as well with HTML5 as WebKit/Safari does with Flash.
 

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Youview extracted the mp4 file from the Youtube page and played that in isolation - within a browser, that file is wrapped in an unwieldy Flash container or HTML5 - far more taxing on the CPU.
Your options are Leopard Webkit with ClickToPlugin installed or TenFourFox/Greasemonkey/Coreplayer - I've done a rough guide here:
http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/integrate-coreplayer-with-tenfourfox.1970281/
 

firelighter487

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maybe i wasn't clear enough. i'm still using youview to play youtube video's. i tried clicktoplugin, but the same result: stuttering video. in the past i tried quicktime enabler as well, but technically clicktoplugin does the same: open the video in quicktime. also, i thought i saw a thread on the forum that was about core player not being developed or available to download. but youview should still work. it worked 6 months ago, why wouldn't it work now?
 

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Youview working? Mine packed up over a year ago - just tried it and still the same - no playback at all.
In any situation Quicktime is the worst option for video playback that's why I suggested the Coreplayer solution - Coreplayer is available to download from a thread on MR.
If you run Activity Monitor (or Top command in Terminal) while you're trying to watch video, you will see if the CPU is being hammered.
 

firelighter487

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i just read through the rip core player thread and they say that you need to buy the program and that it is tied to a serial number, so how can that download work?
 

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firelighter487

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i refuse to use cracked software, so there's that. i'm on my g5 now and i made an interesting observation. if i set youview's resolution to 720p, the video locks up and stutters heavily. if i open activity monitor and look at the cpu usage, it uses about 10% cpu....? and is i set the resolution to 480p, the video plays smoothly and uses more cpu, about 20% or so.
 

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i refuse to use cracked software, so there's that. i'm on my g5 now and i made an interesting observation. if i set youview's resolution to 720p, the video locks up and stutters heavily. if i open activity monitor and look at the cpu usage, it uses about 10% cpu....? and is i set the resolution to 480p, the video plays smoothly and uses more cpu, about 20% or so.
I'm amazed how you have Youview working - I tried it last night on about ten videos and not a single one would load.
Regarding cracked software, understand that the company who made Coreplayer packed up some years ago - myself and others repeatedly emailed them attempting to buy the app but never received a reply.
Coreplayer is incredibly efficient and far outclasses any other media player available to PowerPC.
 

firelighter487

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i don't care about that, i dont want to use cracked software. now, i had the issue with youview not playing anything until i installed perian. try that. but 720p still stutters.
 

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I'm amazed how you have Youview working - I tried it last night on about ten videos and not a single one would load.
Regarding cracked software, understand that the company who made Coreplayer packed up some years ago - myself and others repeatedly emailed them attempting to buy the app but never received a reply.
Coreplayer is incredibly efficient and far outclasses any other media player available to PowerPC.
To satisfy my own curiosity I download and installed YouView on my G4 MDD, it worked right from the get-go, but only after this prompt...
Notice the warning about "Low quality", not too bad in the small player window, but full screen is ugly!

Edit: I already had Perian installed as I do on all my systems, YouView Obviously found it and hence the prompt.

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firelighter487

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this program works, but it doesn't do what i want. it still opens the video in quicktime, which in my case doesn't play 720p video well. what i'm looking for is a fix for quicktime essentially that will help with 720p video streaming from youtube.
 

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Side by side comparison, PPC Media Center on the left and YouView on the right, guess which wins out?
Running these both on a G4 MDD with default settings.
I know the PPC Media center is using QuickTime player, but what YouView uses is anybody's guess.

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Got it working using the example you posted - I've found that it stumbles on playing any band/music video I search for but plays more obscure searches. Looks like it plays either a 144P or 3gp file if it can find one.
 

firelighter487

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that won't be an option. my brother watches a lot of youtube, and if he wants to use it, it has to be simple. downloading with another program, waiting for download, find file, open vlc, play the file; is a much more complicated process than clicktoplugin
 

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that won't be an option. my brother watches a lot of youtube, and if he wants to use it, it has to be simple. downloading with another program, waiting for download, find file, open vlc, play the file; is a much more complicated process than clicktoplugin
My G5 2.3 DP plays Youtube 720P with Flash in Safari no problem, with CTP even better - there's no reason yours shouldn't be the same.
There must be some underlying issue - though what that might be I don't know.