Basically, you don't know what the hell your talking about and went all tizzy...
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YouTube Accuses T-Mobile of Downgrading All Video With Binge On Program
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Basically, you don't know what the hell your talking about and went all tizzy...
Tmobile works to keep people's costs lower. If you'd rather pay for your video and use more bandwidth, you have that option. Seems like their defaults are in the customers' financial interest. If they did the reverse, people would be WAY more upset.
Have you looked at the Binge On FAQ? No you say? Well then, I don't think you know what you are talking about.
YouTube's iOS app seriously needs to let you control video quality on cellular data. Right now the option for video quality gets greyed out when you're on cellular data, which is senseless to me.
How so? YouTube only does things on their app. This does things on all video, even if the makers don't agree with it. Should they only care about things that effect them? That's what's causing this sort of issue in the first place, really.
All T-Mobile has to do is throttle all traffic to/from YouTube's IP addresses to a specific bitrate. The app does the rest.
Did you read the article? They're not slowing down the feed, they're converting to 480p. Big difference. Slow down a 1080p feed and you get buffering, not a different resolution. Jvanleuvan's question is still a good one, though.
Yep and if you want to really be anal about this, 480p is even better than DVD quality, since DVDs largely are interlaced (480i or 576i, depending on the region), while 480p is progressive.
If the conversion is good enough, 480p is plenty fine for a smartphone screen size. This outcry is typical for people that don't have any idea what they're talking about.
As long as you can disable it altogether, I don't see the problem.
Buffering until the app automatically decides to drop to 480p on its own (which in theory should be seamless). That is, if YouTube is indeed using https for the streams.
The section outlining how the program works and that if you choose to be enrolled all content will be compressed for a better consumer experience/less data being used.
T-Mobile has been 100% transparent on how Binge On works. Not sure why there are people getting their panties in a bunch over an optional service that is extremely pro-consumer.
I wish videos all played in 480p on my iPhone while on cell data. Sick of things sucking my data.
I'm still waiting for Youtube to be added to the list of sites in the Binge On program. This sort of puts a damper on that?
This isn't throttling. Do people just purposely ignore the facts or what?
Please outline, in legal terms, how this is an issue with net neutrality in terms of favoring one over another without the consumer having the option to opt out.
K thanks.
You bring much information to the forum and for that I thank you. But you take away this goodness when you serve with a kind of condescending attitude. Leave that out next time and you are golden.
It is a violation of the net-neutrality principle the moment an ISP starts to modify data packets before they reach their destination, for their own ends. It does not matter whether this is an optional service to which the consumer consents or whether the ISP throttles or not. The WSJ article states: “T-Mobile has said the exclusion of YouTube from Binge On is a technical problem. The software that detects streaming video to exclude it from data limits can’t always identify incoming YouTube videos.” This means that the ISP decides how to treat such videos and it does this by discrimination between partners and non-partners. The fact that there is software in the network itself that transcodes the video makes it a clear violation of net neutrality from the start.
The question is not whether this is a violation, but whether it is a justifiable and, of course, lawful violation. The problem with a programme such as this is that it attempts to make consumers comfortable with breaches of net neutrality by giving them clear benefits with no immediate downsides. You can see the effect of this in this thread already. This is yet another power grab by the ISPs that net neutrality is supposed to prevent.
If i understand correctly, all content, not just some, is streamed at 480p. Isn't this net neutral?
It's MacRumors so people get angry for the hell of it. It's no use trying to convince them their anger isn't justified.
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The fact that TMo gets to choose what data does and does not count against your cap should be an issue to everyone.