YouTube App Now Natively Supports 2018 iPad Pro Displays, But Home Indicator Overlaps Menu Bar [Fixed]

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    YouTube updated its iOS app over the weekend with native support for the layout and resolutions of the latest 11-inch and 12.9-inch iPad Pro displays, but as noted on Twitter and Reddit, the home indicator now overlaps the bottom menu bar.

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    Two steps forward, one step backward for now, but hopefully Google addresses this issue in a subsequent update to the app. On the iPhone X and newer, the menu bar is positioned slightly higher as to not overlap with the home indicator.

    Spotify also recently updated its iOS and watchOS apps with native support for the 2018 iPad Pro, iPhone XS Max, and Apple Watch Series 4.

    Update: YouTube has fixed the menu bar issue in a February 2 update.

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  2. richard4339 macrumors 6502a

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    It’s so weird to me. There are still so many apps where the home indicator gets in the way. I personally don’t understand why we need that line there all the time. For the first week it’s maybe helpful, but now over a year in?
     
  3. TheSkywalker77 macrumors 6502a

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    I'd think they would've made it like the iPhone where there's extra space on the screen exclusively for the home bar.
     
  4. Aluminum213 macrumors 68040

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    By the time the 2019 iPad Pros release with new resolution google will finally figure out how to properly update the 2018 resolution
     
  5. 69Mustang macrumors 603

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    It works on the iPhone because of the smaller screen size. On the iPad that would be a helluva lot of wasted space just for the home indicator. It's reminiscent of the iPad being relegated to the iPhone grid of apps. Wasted space.
     
  6. ThunderSkunk macrumors 68030

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    At this point I’d trust a google app as much as I’d trust a facebook app. None of their crap is getting installed on anything I own.
     
  7. revmacian macrumors 6502a

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    I don't think it matters that the line is still visible because the home target in iOS still needs to be there. Even if the line itself weren't visible, you would still not be able to press the menu items behind the line because the target on the digitizer would think you're tapping the "Home button" rather than the menu item in YouTube. Does that make sense?

    What Apple needs to do is reserve some space at the bottom of the screen where that home line is so that the interactive elements in apps and webpages cannot appear in the same space as the line. Either that or move the home swipe target.
     
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    Speaking of wasted space, look at how much of that design is empty space. Looks like the Microsoft ribbon designers made it. Come to think of it, efficient use of screen real estate is an inescapable problem at this point.

    Did you spend extra hundreds of dollars to get the big 17” display on your notebook so you could actually see your drawings without squinting all day?
    Apple: 17” discontinued!
    Microsoft: HAHA! Ribbon eats your extra inches for breakfast!
    Apple: iPad is better for drawings anyway, buy an extra computer. It’s 13”.
    Microsoft: we’ll make a 15” tablet!
    App developers: Windows versions not planned.

    2019 and I can’t get the functionality out of $5000 worth of hardware that I got in 2002 for $1200.
     
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    Its time for apple in ios13 to place a setting to allow the user to remove the “home” line
     
  11. Radeon85 macrumors 6502

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    Exactly, how hard can this be. On as default but a simple option to toggle it on/off. Would also look so much cleaner without it.
     
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    It wouldn't matter if the line itself were removed, the touch target for "Home" would still be there. This means that the menu items at the bottom of the screen in the OP would still not be useable because the system would think you're pressing the home line - even though the home line is invisible, pressing what you thought was a menu item (in the OP) would still register as a home line press because the touch target for "Home" is still there.

    When you press an item on the screen, you're not actually pressing a graphic.. you're pressing a target on the digitizer, and the digitizer is mapping where your finger touched the screen and communicates that to iOS so the system knows what to do next.
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    Come on, Apple, it can't be that difficult to reserve space at the bottom of the screen for the home line.. After all, you've been doing it at the top of the screen for years (time, carrier, battery indicator, wifi, etc.).
     
  13. recurringdream macrumors newbie

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    For lots of people, it is their first week with that gesture, especially on iPad.
     
  14. chfilm macrumors 68000

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    Well well well, now only Facebook, google drive, Dropbox, google docs, sheets, Facebook messenger, Amazon, eBay, and so many more apps need an update. But we’re getting there!
     
  15. Eorlas macrumors 6502

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    THANK YOU. SWEET JESUS THANK YOU.

    At the absolute very least, there needs to be a toggle to just make this thing disappear entirely. It was brilliant having a jailbreak back on iOS 11 on my iPhone X, getting rid of it was one of the first tweaks I installed. Was actually a more enjoyable phone to use, as some apps require flicking the home bar twice to exit the app, but this tweak allowed any app to be exited in one swipe.

    The home bar is a stupid stupid thing to leave up permanently.
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    They don't need to. I've used an iPhone X jailbroken with the home bar indicator removed entirely and experienced no issues. It made the device much simpler to use as all apps only required one swipe to close, and allowed the UI to look normal without the line.
     
  16. revmacian macrumors 6502a

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    Then I may be mistaken, please disregard my post.
     
  17. tobefirst macrumors 68040

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    What apps require you to flick the home bar twice to exit them? I can't say I've ever come across this.
     
  18. dan9700 macrumors 68030

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    i hate that homebar, and wouldnt google test the app before they put it out
     
  19. zorinlynx macrumors 603

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    - UI problems
    - Laggy performance
    - Audio sync problems when you use Bluetooth
    - Lack of PIP support on iPad

    Is it me or does Google intentionally degrade the YouTube experience on iOS because they'd rather people use Android?

    It's just suspicious that there are so many downsides to the app.
     
  20. Scottsoapbox macrumors 6502a

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    Because that wastes screen. Especially in landscape on a 12.9" ipad not using the bottom ~1/4" all the way across just to remind people that they can swipe up for home is silly.
     
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    Why waste all this space at the top? The MacRumors header and the Cast, video, search and menu should be on the same level as Home, Videos, Playlists, Community, Channels and About. Or at least make it more compact. Not enough room? Get rid of one of the categories, about should be hidden within the ... menu option and not clearly visible as it is.
     
  22. Enclavean macrumors regular

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    How do you even push this update out? Do the guys developing this not have a new iPad Pro laying around to test it on? Or did they test it and really think “yep, this looks great!”
     
  23. mylittlepwny macrumors newbie

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    Why would anyone use the bloated ad filled youtube app that doesn’t allow PiP?
     
  24. DaPizzaMan macrumors regular

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    I think it would be ideal if it showed up after entering an app, and after any orientation change. That way people still know which way to swipe.
     
  25. jonnyb098 macrumors 68030

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    No home bar on my 10.5 pro and I have all the same gestures as the new iPads. Developers move at a snails pace to update iPad apps since the beginning. I really love the new pro but I really don't have high hopes especially with the 11 inch being a whole new aspect ratio. Apple needs to do something to force developers to update or get kicked out of the store.
     

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