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Just change the playback layout to the way it was before and I'll be happy. I'm fine with the layout on the menus.

Exactly!!!
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It's been just over two weeks since YouTube updated its Apple TV app with a major redesign, essentially bringing the app in line with YouTube on other products like Android TV, smart TVs, PS4, and Xbox One. While the original YouTube Apple TV app was never widely favored, the new update was met with even more blowback from some users, who referenced laggy controls, poorer playback UI, illogical changes to the subscription tab's channel list, and more.

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This week, YouTube pushed out version 1.01.04 of the app for Apple TV 4th and 5th generation devices, and it addresses a few of these user concerns. The major update is a "modified" subscriptions tab that nixes the long horizontal list of subscribed YouTube channels -- which made it take much longer to get to channels at the bottom of the alphabetized list -- and reverts back to a grid layout akin to the original app. YouTube said this was done for "easier channel selection."

Although it's not mentioned in the update notes, one user on Reddit said that there have also been a few tweaks to video scrubbing, so users can "go through the video with the touchpad again instead of slowly rewinding/fast forwarding." When doing this, thumbnail previews of the video pop up to give you an idea of where to land as you jump through the video, but YouTube still doesn't use Apple's systemwide playback UI and there isn't any support for quick 10-second jumps forward and backward.

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Otherwise, YouTube said that the update fixed an issue with the search keyboard when people were using "non-Siri TV remotes," and it includes the usual bug fixes and stability improvements.

Article Link: YouTube App on Apple TV Updated Following User Complaints Over Subscriptions Layout and More

To quote a late 90's movie featuring Charlie Sheen as a baseball slugger ...
" It's STILL S**T! "
 
Where’s the 4k support?

Google is all in with VP9 until AV1. Apple refuses to give VP9 support on the ATV because of reasons. 4K will likely come with AV1?

As for people who really want this to look like an ATV app? Good luck. YouTube is a much bigger brand than Apple TV is, so they kind of have the power here. And they want people to know they're using the YouTube app with the YouTube player, not just some random Apple TV app.
 
Has anyone tried to use the extremely “not ready for primetime” DirecTV app?
Horrible! No rewind, fast forward, and forget about skip ahead or back 10 seconds. All you get, and only in rare occasions, is the abilities start over. Get with it DirecTV! You can blow away all the cable providers with DirecTV NOW, but only if you make it WORK!
Why does YouTube insist on using its own player code rather than the excellent built in video player API? That's my only complaint about the new app. Apple's API works well and is consistent across all of TVOS. There's no reason not to use it.
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Google is all in with VP9 until AV1. Apple refuses to give VP9 support on the ATV because of reasons. 4K will likely come with AV1?

As for people who really want this to look like an ATV app? Good luck. YouTube is a much bigger brand than Apple TV is, so they kind of have the power here. And they want people to know they're using the YouTube app with the YouTube player, not just some random Apple TV app.

Isnt hevc a better format than vp9 in terms of compression? I assume google doesnt use it because they would have to pay royalties? Why doesnt apple support vp9 as well as hevc natively? What would they lose from that? Format wars kinda suck
 
Im still waiting on 4k and until that comes I wish youtube would remove the little nagging 4k icon on some videos. it lures people into thinking that the video is going to be streamed in 4k when its not.
 
Isnt hevc a better format than vp9 in terms of compression? I assume google doesnt use it because they would have to pay royalties? Why doesnt apple support vp9 as well as hevc natively? What would they lose from that? Format wars kinda suck

I think Apple is part of the patent holding group when it comes to H.265 (HEVC). But yeah, Google would have to pay out the rear in royalties.
 
One of the main reasons I bought an Apple TV was because of the flawless design on the Youtube App. I have over 100 playlists with up to 300-500 videos in each. I loved how I was able to easily shuffle the playlists and just sit and watch videos for hours on my tv. Now...that is all gone. I can not shuffle anything. Not even if I beam it from my phone to the app, it doesn't work. SO now the app is totally useless. Not to mention it has a horrible design, extremely difficult to navigate through. It's just so disappointing. I've created all these playlists for nothing now. BAD BAD Move.
 
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Not only they destroyed the ATV app, but the iPad app as well. Since 2+ weeks ago I can't play videos on iPad. This is what happens with a true monopoly, you get worse and worse product! This is why Apple stuff is so good all the time, they don't have a real monopoly anywhere.
 
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Great, just take random jackass from reddit and put it in the news.

1. Thumbnail preview scrubbing was available before this update.
2. You can jump 10 seconds back and forth with the timeline selected using standard gestures.

How about some fact checking?

Yes the app still sucks.

The ONLY updated to the screw up by Google done a few weeks ago on ATV has been the bottom drawer previews don't show up. I cannot scrubb using swipe'n'hold on the remote 10 seconds before or after. Swipe scrolling is jittery and horrible design.

I NOW understand why Apple and now the rest of the world is pushing heavily for coders - everyone can code. Because Apple wants REAL good code where the UI is thought about from beginning to end!
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That's definitely not my ONLY complaint with the app, but it is my biggest one. Along with the slightly larger thumbnails for videos, which make it harder to see a lot of videos at a glance on my home/recommended pages.

Might I ask where do we all submitt our feedback (gripes, complaints, anguish) to Google for changes please?
Thanks.
 
All this makes me miss the days when every Apple TV channel (before they were "apps") had basically the same simple design. Granted, they weren't pretty, but they were standardized and prdictable.

Now every app is a crapshoot. Some of them, like CNN or Cartoon Network, will even autoplay random video with sound the second you open them (Netflix will do this too, if you let it sit too long on the main menu). And in most of them, functionality is second to "look" -- Hulu is just trash.

And, even worse, many of them feel like they need to reinvent the video player itself instead of using Apple's video player. I had a lot of fun the past couple weeks discovering that accidentally "light tapping" the trackpad will make the NBC Sports app jump ahead or back.

I really wish Apple would impose some UI standards on these before they're accepted. Autoplay should be OUT completely, and every app should use Apple's native video player, at a minimum.
 
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I really wish Apple would impose some UI standards on these before they're accepted. Autoplay should be OUT completely, and every app should use Apple's native video player, at a minimum.
The odd thing is that it is perfectly possible to use TVKit to create on-brand experiences. Hayu is a good example of this.

I believe the floodgates were opened as a concession to Amazon. Now every brand is able to create crappy web applications masquerading as TV apps.
 
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The odd thing is that it is perfectly possible to use TVKit to create on-brand experiences. Hayu is a good example of this.

I believe the floodgates were opened as a concession to Amazon. Now every brand is able to create crappy web applications masquerading as TV apps.

There are some bad apps that definitely precede Prime Video, though. I feel like this is going to keep getting worse before (or if) it ever gets better...
 
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It's been just over two weeks since YouTube updated its Apple TV app with a major redesign, essentially bringing the app in line with YouTube on other products like Android TV, smart TVs, PS4, and Xbox One. While the original YouTube Apple TV app was never widely favored, the new update was met with even more blowback from some users, who referenced laggy controls, poorer playback UI, illogical changes to the subscription tab's channel list, and more.

youtube-apple-tv-update-1.jpg

This week, YouTube pushed out version 1.01.04 of the app for Apple TV 4th and 5th generation devices, and it addresses a few of these user concerns. The major update is a "modified" subscriptions tab that nixes the long horizontal list of subscribed YouTube channels -- which made it take much longer to get to channels at the bottom of the alphabetized list -- and reverts back to a grid layout akin to the original app. YouTube said this was done for "easier channel selection."

Although it's not mentioned in the update notes, one user on Reddit said that there have also been a few tweaks to video scrubbing, so users can "go through the video with the touchpad again instead of slowly rewinding/fast forwarding." When doing this, thumbnail previews of the video pop up to give you an idea of where to land as you jump through the video, but YouTube still doesn't use Apple's systemwide playback UI and there isn't any support for quick 10-second jumps forward and backward.

youtube-apple-tv-update-2.jpg

Otherwise, YouTube said that the update fixed an issue with the search keyboard when people were using "non-Siri TV remotes," and it includes the usual bug fixes and stability improvements.

Article Link: YouTube App on Apple TV Updated Following User Complaints Over Subscriptions Layout and More
[doublepost=1521253978][/doublepost]Coming from the AppleTV gen 3 that had lost its YouTube app long ago I was expecting this to be awesome. It's not. I'd been using the Gen3 Appletv and airplaying the phone youtube iOS app display to the tv so I had expectations of what I'd like to see. The current (march 2018) app disappoints.

1) the pause state darkens and clutters the screen. I paused often to look at the still for a reason, now it's hidden under crap. Why?

2) no few/rew. If I want to jump ahead a bunch making me press ffwd on my remote 30 times is stupid. And no I don't use the dumb Appletv remote, I've programmed its IR codes into my universal remote. The ATV gen 3 via airplay at least did that well.

3) most annoyingly the subscription updates are lagging and out of sync. I've got new alerts In YouTube and the iOS app but nothing shows up under the "subscription recent actively". Ftw google? Are you pulling a Facebook-we-will-curate-and-anoy move?

4) too many useless options below the playback controls but none for leaving video comments. There's an Apple TV mechanism for handing off to the iPhone when text input is requests. Out THAT in there and get rid of the pointless feedback button that only shows a URL for YouTube feedback we would need to transcribe.
 
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