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tom123

tom123

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Sure wish YouTube which show the date (like some other apps like fox news) , Showing views is nice, but it could be two years old, you don't know.

is there another TV app that does ?

Samsung smart TV app YouTube has views & date.
Come on Apple YouTube you can do it !
 
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tom123 said:
Sure wish YouTube which show the date (like some other apps like fox news) , Showing views is nice, but it could be two years old, you don't know.

is there another TV app that does ?

Samsung smart TV app YouTube has views & date.
Come on Apple YouTube you can do it !
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YouTube app is disappointing, damn near horrible. They gotta start from scratch with this one.
 
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chunker said:
YouTube app is disappointing, damn near horrible. They gotta start from scratch with this one.
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It's junk, and it's far from the only Apple TV 4 app which suffers from being a port of an Apple TV 3 "app". Crunchyroll is equally bad, and here in the UK the Now TV app is beyond abysmal. It should be a real stand out, flagship app, as it is essentially HBO Now but owned by News Corp. But it's terrible, and another ATV 3 port. It's borderline unusable and looks like an MS-DOS application.

I've reached the conclusion that the ATV 4 is a dead platform. Terrible apps, very little developer support, underpowered hardware, and Siri is as before totally US centric.
 
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Sakurambo-kun said:
It's junk, and it's far from the only Apple TV 4 app which suffers from being a port of an Apple TV 3 "app". Crunchyroll is equally bad, and here in the UK the Now TV app is beyond abysmal. It should be a real stand out, flagship app, as it is essentially HBO Now but owned by News Corp. But it's terrible, and another ATV 3 port. It's borderline unusable and looks like an MS-DOS application.

I've reached the conclusion that the ATV 4 is a dead platform. Terrible apps, very little developer support, underpowered hardware, and Siri is as before totally US centric.
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Sakurambo-kun said:
It's junk, and it's far from the only Apple TV 4 app which suffers from being a port of an Apple TV 3 "app". Crunchyroll is equally bad, and here in the UK the Now TV app is beyond abysmal. It should be a real stand out, flagship app, as it is essentially HBO Now but owned by News Corp. But it's terrible, and another ATV 3 port. It's borderline unusable and looks like an MS-DOS application.

I've reached the conclusion that the ATV 4 is a dead platform. Terrible apps, very little developer support, underpowered hardware, and Siri is as before totally US centric.
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Agreed with all, specially the bolded red.

I live in Canada and Siri is limited to 3 apps and even then, Canadian Netflix is a joke compared to the American.
 
Sakurambo-kun said:
I've reached the conclusion that the ATV 4 is a dead platform. Terrible apps, very little developer support, underpowered hardware, and Siri is as before totally US centric.
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Terrible apps? LOL...buy a Roku and you learn the real meaning of terrible apps.
 
jdillings said:
Terrible apps? LOL...buy a Roku and you learn the real meaning of terrible apps.
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I have one, and Roku apps are vastly superior to Apple TV apps. Look at BBC iPlayer on both platforms, or Now TV, or Crunchyroll, or YouTube. The difference is night and day. Roku apps are simply the standard big screen apps as seen on the PS4 and smart TVs. They're fine, fully functional, and graphically attractive. The Apple TV versions are a mix of absurdly basic and ugly ATV 3 ports, and apps which are simply bare bones and devoid of even basic functionality.

Roku apps are far superior in every way, plus there are far, far more of them. Good luck finding Amazon Prime on the ATV app store.
 
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Good luck finding iTunes Movies and TV and Music on Roku.
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And that's the only reason my apple TV is still plugged in. For merely renting movies i use whatever comes to hand - PSN, Xbox, Google Play, or iTunes. They're all indistinguishable from each other. But I have iTunes purchases that are locked in apple land.

99.9% of my viewing is through multi platform streaming services though- Netflix, Amazon, Now TV, BBC iPlayer, MUBI, Crunchyroll, More4, etc. All of which are either better on other platforms or don't exist on the Apple TV at all.

I genuinely wish you could see the UK Now TV app. It's decent enough on every platform except the Apple TV, where it's an utter train wreck. Given that it's essentially the UK equivalent of HBO Now, is a big deal that the Apple TV version is so relentlessly terrible. Apple should be doing whatever it takes to see that it's fixed, but it's still on v1.0, had been since ATV 4 launch, and that was just a port of the terrible 3 year old ATV 3 "app".
 
Something released less than year ago is not long dead, Apple has no control over what developers decide to bring to other countries . Please know the facts. also Roku does not have far more Apps and large % of those apps are religious apps. Also i see no point in you being here since you like Roku so much and feel the Apple Tv is dead
 
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Good luck finding iTunes Movies and TV and Music on Roku.
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I don't think Apple will let Roku into their iTunes. But Roku is less bias then the other sticks.

But if you are in the Apple ecosystem (bought lots of iTunes movies ...) Apple's not that bad, but they could be so much better!!
 
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Something released less than year ago is not long dead, Apple has no control over what developers decide to bring to other countries . Please know the facts. also Roku does not have far more Apps and large % of those apps are religious apps. Also i see no point in you being here since you like Roku so much and feel the Apple Tv is dead
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Answer me this. How are some devices, such as the PlayStation 4, Xbox one, and Fire TV able to launch with a good selection of local streaming services? I suspect the answer is that those platform holders have paid content providers to create those apps because they realise how important local content is.

Apple has for reasons clear to nobody always treated the Apple TV as a heavily US centric device. Even putting aside the lack of local services, why has every extension of Siri search been US only?

As for Roku, yes it has a gigantic account of apps from terrifying people, but it also ticks all the boxes for local content. The Fire TV isn't far behind on that front either.
 
Fire Tv launched with hardly anything, and had very few Apps for a good amount of time, Please know what you are talking about then post, and The roku and Fire TV have had App stores for much longer than the Apple tv
 
More evidence that the ATV is a dead platform. Google are far from the only ones skipping the ATV for app updates either. It's commonplace.
 
Okay, then why else would third parties be so disinterested in the platform?

I look at it from a UK perspective. Most UK services don't have Apple TV apps, and the ones that do are either cut down versions inferior to what you would see on the Roku, PS4, smart TVs etc, or are just abandonware Apple TV 3 ports like YouTube.

My iOS apps are updated daily. My Apple TV apps... not so much. Even Netflix is inferior on the ATV when compared to any other modern platform.
 
Sakurambo-kun said:
Okay, then why else would third parties be so disinterested in the platform?

I look at it from a UK perspective. Most UK services don't have Apple TV apps, and the ones that do are either cut down versions inferior to what you would see on the Roku, PS4, smart TVs etc, or are just abandonware Apple TV 3 ports like YouTube.

My iOS apps are updated daily. My Apple TV apps... not so much. Even Netflix is inferior on the ATV when compared to any other modern platform.
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iOS is 9 years old.

tvOS is 9 months old

I think it's a little early to call it a dead platform. Of course I'm sure we could find some posts from 07 calling iPhone a dead platform too.
 
Thing is, the PS4 had far superior apps on day one, and they're updated regularly. I know the difference between a thriving, supported platform and one which languishes unloved.

If you have an explanation for the big YouTube update skipping the ATV, please do share. Something's fishy.
 
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Thing is, the PS4 had far superior apps on day one, and they're updated regularly. I know the difference between a thriving, supported platform and one which languishes unloved.

If you have an explanation for the big YouTube update skipping the ATV, please do share. Something's fishy.
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It never said it was skipping the ATV entirely did it?

Not arriving at the same time isn't skipping. Look at Fox Sports Go as example. Roku got it a couple weeks ago, but it's still coming to ATV.
 
Okay, let's place a little virtual wager should we? I bet you that YouTube will remain unchanged one year from now. Heck I'll double it, two years. Don't forget to check this thread in 2018. :)
 
Sakurambo-kun said:
Thing is, the PS4 had far superior apps on day one, and they're updated regularly. I know the difference between a thriving, supported platform and one which languishes unloved.

If you have an explanation for the big YouTube update skipping the ATV, please do share. Something's fishy.
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One Article I read said something about SIRI Integration was the cause for the delay. But since I do not use it I am really not up to speed on it.
 
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