YouTube Videos on Apple TV in June

[twoodcc]

when they start selling hi-def movies on iTunes, i'll start buying movies from iTunes

 

[~Shard~]

when they start selling hi-def movies on iTunes, i'll start buying movies from iTunes

I wonder how many people will have an Internet connection which will allow them to download said movies in a reasonable amount of time though... Ah well, not my problem, my Internet is plenty fast.

 

[ortuno2k]

I wonder how sales of this device are doing...

Maybe not too good and they're doing this to spice things up?
I don't know, I'm just speculating.

I'm a tech junkie (kind of) and I still haven't purchased one - don't see the need.

 

[72930]

I wonder how many people will have an Internet connection which will allow them to download said movies in a reasonable amount of time though... Ah well, not my problem, my Internet is plenty fast.

Mine too...it should be an option (like I said before), and they could call it iTunes plus, like the music...

 

[0007776]

I wonder how many people will have an Internet connection which will allow them to download said movies in a reasonable amount of time though... Ah well, not my problem, my Internet is plenty fast.

I would like them to add the option for more choice, but for now I think that the current quality is fine, for what I use it for which is mostly just watching them on my computer and once there is a new iPod out, on that.

 

[~Shard~]

I would like them to add the option for more choice, but for now I think that the current quality is fine, for what I use it for which is mostly just watching them on my computer and once there is a new iPod out, on that.

Yes, a new iPod which is essentially the iPhone without the phone functionality I'm hoping.

 

[Diatribe]

Well, it is a nice addition but why stop there? Why not give access to internet radio, etc.?
And while you're at it you might try to not cripple your TV shows by letterboxing them, not offering discrete surround sound and offering really crappy quality. That would make me actually want to buy them.

 

[Apple Architect]

mad house

Well you can carry a conversation all by yourself. Fascinating. You'd be fun to observe from a distance.

Maybe you could create a uTube stream we could all watch on our AppleTV's

 

[Chef Medeski]

I'm interested on how that works from the network side of things, how do they speed it up? I have cable, and an airport extreme, so theoretically it can deliver much faster than what i am getting? cable companies seem to be lagging, right? does anyone know how verizon fios is compared to cablevision?

Airport is several times faster than your internet connection (ie cable). Fiber optics is a 3-4x jump based on your current set up. That should get you just about ready for these kinda things. 802.11n plus fiber optic and I think you'll be able to hold any server (the question is will they be able to hold you?)

 

[corywoolf]

Yeah I think most people had a feeling this was coming, surprised they didn't have it from the start.

 

[JGowan]

TubeSock Rocks

Streaming is so weak. I want to have the video on my computer or ipod or PSP to play ANYTIME I want, not just when I'm hooked up to the internet. I've been using TubeSock for several months and extracting my favorite videos to HAVE is so much better than having to go to the website EVERYTIME I want to watch the same video. I think it was like $15 -- cheap enough for what it does.

http://stinkbot.com/Tubesock

 

[a456]

Call me old fashioned but I'd rather watch the stuff that I receive with an aerial or get on a DVD. Who settles down of an evening to watch YouTube? Yes, you might click through to something amusing or of interest to relieve the boredom while at work, but to watch this stuff instead of normal TV or doing something with your family, no thanks. Only when it becomes a viable forum for up and coming independent film makers will I do that. That said I realise that Apple is doing a good job getting in with the number one names on the Internet, while MS gets in with the number twos (pardon the pun).

 

[hersheytx]

It will arrive when Jobs thinks we will enjoy the experience of downloading files that large. Most people are not going to find today's speed to be acceptable and they'll mistakenly blame Apple for that, so Jobs is going to let the networks catch up first.

I am downloading HD movies on Xbox 360. I will admit that it takes about 2-3 hours to download a movie that is 2 1/2 hours long. But the quality is perfect and as long as I start the download early enough I have no problems.

It works better for Appletv. I am already on my computer in the morning. I can look at a list of movies and start the download that morning. It would be nice to have it as quick as my Sat but I can live with it.

 

[210]

YouTube

This is a great addition, but how useful is it? The picture and sound quality is appalling and that's on a small computer monitor - can I even decipher what is happening on an HD TV? Also, YouTube was great to watch clips from TV that are not shown any more (TV shows, Oscars, etc.) but with the clampdown, there really isn't anything there I am interested to watch. I am not that interested in pet tricks.

I am also confused in how to enter information to get a certain clip from YouTube. Usiing the Apple remote would be kind of tedious. Maybe using the iPhone...?

 

[Yvan256]

It will arrive when Jobs thinks we will enjoy the experience of downloading files that large. Most people are not going to find today's speed to be acceptable and they'll mistakenly blame Apple for that, so Jobs is going to let the networks catch up first.

Actually I think they've already set the stepping stone to side-step that problem: iTunes Plus. The new songs, while DRM-free, are also a bit more expensive and higher-quality but also twice as big to download and store.

All they have to do is announce the movies and TV shows for "iTunes Plus". The regular ones are "near-DVD quality", the same as the 128kbps AAC tunes being "near-CD quality", the "Plus" versions are high-def movies and hence take longer to download and more room to store.

Edit: psychofreak beat me to it.

 

[Yvan256]

And while you're at it you might try to not cripple your TV shows by letterboxing them, not offering discrete surround sound and offering really crappy quality.

What do you mean by "crippling TV shows by letterboxing them"? Did you mean pillarboxing?

And keep in mind that it's not Apple who's encoding the shows (AFAIK), so you might have to blame the networks for any mistakes on the aspect ratio of the TV shows.

 

[deejemon]

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[nagromme]

Wow--it sounds as though Apple is working with YouTube to convert ALL their old videos to higher quality (H.264)! This will happen gradually between now and fall, and AppleTV will only display the higher-quality ones, so you will see the selection grow over time, starting with "thousands" in June. Meanwhile everything NEW added to YouTube will be AppleTV-ready automatically. It really sounds like Apple is working with YouTube in ways that change YouTube's operations significantly. A real collaboration--and presumably this will give browser-based YouTube a nice quality boost too. (Not sure if a res boost would happen too, but at the very least, less lossy compression would be nice.)

From an iLounge interview with Apple's David Moody:

According to Moody, the YouTube update will take place in stages, beginning with the free software update for Apple TV owners in mid-June. At launch, “thousands of videos designed for Apple TV” will be available, with additional thousands added weekly until the entire YouTube library becomes accessible to Apple TV users this fall. When asked what “designed for Apple TV” meant, Moody said that YouTube will soon be encoding videos in the H.264 streaming-efficient compression format preferred by Apple TV, and that all new videos submitted to YouTube as of the mid-June launch of the AppleTV update will be playable by the device. From then until fall, YouTube will be encoding its entire back-catalog in H.264 format, adding videos in chunks until everything is accessible to Apple TV users. Direct links and the on-screen keyboard-based search engine mentioned in our previous update will bring you to current and old videos alike.

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/ne...etails-160gb-apple-tv-youtube-h264-deal/10099

 

[Diatribe]

What do you mean by "crippling TV shows by letterboxing them"? Did you mean pillarboxing?

And keep in mind that it's not Apple who's encoding the shows (AFAIK), so you might have to blame the networks for any mistakes on the aspect ratio of the TV shows.

Yeah, I know, I just think Apple should pressure the networks to use the same standards.

 

[72930]

Uchh. Just what you want in your loungeroom, 100 million lg15 and renetto wannabes desperately clamoring for your attention in exchange for the remaining shreds of their dignity, blown up from 320x240 and playing back on your 42" beauty. I'd take the bundled fixes, but would hope the YouTube part can be switched off.

A lot of people like it on their Wii consoles...

 

[deejemon]

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