Yoyobase.com Vapor Pro Review

[jdsun1]

I am flagging your comments to the mods right now for your insults.

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No, you are misunderstanding the point of my mention of the certificate. I said "it even comes with all the bells and whistles". Understand that phrase means all the little nuances of the Element cases including the certificate. This is to showcase the lengths at which these Chinese manufacturers are taking to copy this product.

OH no, Mr. Tough guy eh? Gotta run to the mods to save you, when your comments can't compete. Sounds like a sore loser in denial to me.

Oh and the lengths that the Chinese go to make a counterfeit are more disturbing and a nuisance than worthy of praise. Only someone with little to no moral or values would applaud such an act.

 

[NWI73]

All I have to say about the childish behavior in here is wow...

 

[kainjow]

I'm not sure why this or any thread discussing products that infringe on other companies' proprietary designs are even permitted in the first place. If this were a wristwatch forum, and this thread was about a Rolex knockoff, the entire thread would have been deleted immediately.

Macrumors doesn't allow the discussion of pirated software, but it allows reviews of pirated case designs...

If you feel a topic doesn't belong, report it, don't post about it in that thread. That just creates off topic discussion. Thanks.

 

[BoxerGT2.5]

I'm not sure why this or any thread discussing products that infringe on other companies' proprietary designs are even permitted in the first place. If this were a wristwatch forum, and this thread was about a Rolex knockoff, the entire thread would have been deleted immediately.

Macrumors doesn't allow the discussion of pirated software, but it allows reviews of pirated case designs...

$150 for an aluminum bumper? What's a pound of aluminum go for? 6061 is about $2/lb. What do you wager that case weighs?

Now this is a clear knock off, copying even the name and logo to the effect. It's up to Element to protect their products, which they will if people start choosing to purchase the knock offs.

 

[mcdj]

If you feel a topic doesn't belong, report it, don't post about it in that thread. That just creates off topic discussion. Thanks.

I did report it, and it seems not to matter much.

All I know is, if I were Element Case Co., I'd be none too happy about people posting reviews of my product. And I'd be sure not to advertise with MR.

 

[iz2sick]

OH no, Mr. Tough guy eh? Gotta run to the mods to save you, when your comments can't compete. Sounds like a sore loser in denial to me.

Oh and the lengths that the Chinese go to make a counterfeit are more disturbing and a nuisance than worthy of praise. Only someone with little to no moral or values would applaud such an act.

Sorry, people have and are reporting me by the pack. It's only fair that those of you insulting me get the same treatment.

I'm sorry that you feel the need to judge my morals based on a case review of a knock-off. Don't you think it fair to judge Element on their ethics too then? They are over charging customers for aluminum bumpers. There isn't some groundbreaking design here as aluminum bumpers that screw together exist by the dozens and dozens.

Sorry, but you don't see me going out and purchasing or trying obtain knock-offs of other popular bumpers. I really like the e13ctron bumpers, but they are a great company that charges fair prices and are very responsive to their customers. Take a look at them on Facebook. Compare them to Element.

I actually had the option of getting an e13ctron but I didn't. So judge away.

But I'll stop posting separate threads for knock-off reviews because I'm no here to make enemies. I took my personal time to do up a review for others to see. We'll all just agree to disagree.

You want to know what's funny? Had any one of you respectfully asked me to stop this, I most likely would have. I return respect with respect.

I'll just stick to reviewing legit brands. Again, you should seriously turn that critical eye on Element as well. Their customer service severely lacks and their cases are overpriced. You defend a company that doesn't even show their appreciation back even thouh you spent over $120 for their aluminum product.

Btw, I find it odd that I got ripped apart for this review down to questioning my morals, yet another person reviews an e13ctron knock-off and nobody says a word...

You defend Element but not e13ctron? Questionable...

 

[DougNg]

My experience with Element CS has mostly been positive. They returned my emails within 48 hours, which is considerably better than say, Victorinox, when I had to get my pocketknife serviced. I contacted them for a general question (wanted to know if they were going to sell Vapor Comp parts)

I've bought all three of my Element cases through Tekcases. Their response time is somewhere between six hours to five minutes, depending on what time of the day it is (response time is faster in the evening). They even allowed me to return two carbon fiber backs for full refund after I used them because they interfered with my wifi signal (I live in a town house, router is on the first floor, I need a repeater)

As for the prices, I personally don't have a problem with their prices. It seems that most people don't have fit and finish problems. The few that do get replacements. I have some understanding of machining, and all the bevels of the case line up perfectly, and there are no gaps in any of my cases where the pieces go together. Considering the level of fit and finish (the anodizing on the cases are some of the best I've seen), I think their price is fair. If you only look at the raw price of aluminum, it will seem steep. However, the machining that goes into the Vapor is pretty impressive. Five bezels (at least) on each side, plus machining in fullers, and then the inside as well. It's not going to be a fast process. The anodizing they use, again, is very impressive

Then again, I'm not your average consumer. I'm willing to do extensive amounts of research and then pay top dollar for a product. $450 japanese denim and $600 pocketknives are things you routinely trip on in my house

 

[iz2sick]

Your point is fair. I'm not purely speculating about Element. Look at their Facebook page and compare to their competitors. Element is very unresponsive. There are numerous complaints here as well, but I understand the nature of Internet complaints... Upset customers are much more likely to post than satisfied ones.

I am also comparing the product to other aluminum cases. I do not see a significant difference in qaulity to justify the price. But I do concede to the fact that I haven't handled a real one.

I also base my assumptions on the fact that I'm very used to handling high qaulity aluminum in snowboard bindings. These are amongst the most durable aluminum you will find. They have to be, snowboarders use them to bind them to a snowboard. $150 can get me one of these bindings. Look at Ride Snowboard bindings if you want an example.

I highly doubt these element cases are as durable as these bindings at around the same cost.

This is where my disdain towards Element comes from. All this and they are unresponsive to customers on their Facebook page.

Like I said though, this obviously bothers people so I'll stop. I just don't quite get why I'm being picked on while other reviews of fake cases are left alone. Knock-offs of companies that charge a more fair price and have a great track record of customer service.

Maybe because people who spent $150 on Element feel compelled to defend their purchase.

Again, all any of you had to do was ask me respectfully to stop reviewing these in separate threads. And I got based about my morals? That's ironic in my eyes. But hey, I'm an immoral person so what do I know?

 

[annk]

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