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I regard Zoom, in itself, as malware:

etc.

Not gonna trust them, for a long, long time...
What's your recommended replacement?

  • Microsoft Teams?
  • Slack? (soon to be Salesforce's)
  • Google Meet?
Note that Facetime doesn't have the ability to setup a meeting "room" (i.e. having a URL and time schedule) and need to invite each participant individually as the meeting is progressing. Not to mention no support beyond Apple users.

Same as WhatsApp, poor support for group teleconferencing. Being owned by Facebook doesn't help either, noting that the entire company's stance towards privacy is under scrutiny.
 
Don’t sit in front of the computer naked all the time and onlookers will probably move on.

I refuse to use the app for the lack of truthfulness by the company with its use, as well as all security problems it has had. Either are ignorant about Zoom issues or they just don’t care and proceed forward.
Honestly, I don’t ever recall using a computer with my clothes on. Feels weird.
 
Always suspicious when an app like this isn't listed in the App store.

One reason is that if you pay for Zoom via the app store, Apple wants its cut. Plus you need to follow their rules.

Keep in mind, the Mac App Store wasn't always around, so not everyone uses it. If users are new-ish to Macintosh, it might seem weird, but the App Store is still not the first place I look for new apps for my Mac. I probably should look there first, but I don't think of it since that's not the way it used to be.

My point being: it's not particularly suspicious to not be in the Mac App Store.
 
Cant understand the hype of zoom when there are so many better alternatives available (which at least don't send your data to China)
Not sure that says that Zoom meetings are being sent to China.
 
What's your recommended replacement?

  • Microsoft Teams?
  • Slack? (soon to be Salesforce's)
  • Google Meet?
Note that Facetime doesn't have the ability to setup a meeting "room" (i.e. having a URL and time schedule) and need to invite each participant individually as the meeting is progressing. Not to mention no support beyond Apple users.

Same as WhatsApp, poor support for group teleconferencing. Being owned by Facebook doesn't help either, noting that the entire company's stance towards privacy is under scrutiny.
I don't have a recommendation, because most solutions have some issue or another, IMHO.

I use Zoom - but only from my work issued Mac, with a paid, corporate Zoom account - for online classes. Would not (at the moment, nor the foreseeable future) install Zoom on my own Mac. The functionality is good, making rooms and inviting people is a breeze, that has never been an issue. (I remember back when a boss of mine introduced me to zoom back in ~2015, the ease-of-use, from installing to inviting and holding meetings, was - as it still is - its main selling point. Too bad much of it was made possible by making security short cuts. Back then it was our backup solution for whenever Skype failed...which was quite often.) Sidenote: I'm not the first to think Zoom is Malware.

We use MS Teams for internal communication at work, chatrooms and video calls. I'm not over the moon for that Teams Electron App, which has been running poorly on the M1 Air, but - to be fair - it was never a spectacularly good on my "old" Intel MacBook Pros (home and work), either. The (weekly) staff meetings over video conference are mostly good. The best ting I can say about MS Teams is that it's not Skype, which I've never had any good experience with on a Mac.

I briefly tried Google Meet in March/April, to hold some lectures during the first Corona lockdown at a school using Google's education platform. That was my first experience with Meet, and in use (I had not set up the room or anything, just used it) it was quite similar to Zoom, which means good user experience, but with very questionable privacy, we are - after all - talking about Google.

We use Discord for chitchat with students (though rarely with video, though a fellow teacher held his video classes through Discord during the lockdown and that seemed to go nicely). The Discord app is - slightly - better behaving than Teams. I would actually prefer Slack to Discord, based on past experience (but it's been a while since I used Slack, and I've never tried it for video). Our company do use some Salesforce stuff, so maybe I get a chance next year?

I never use Facetime, unless I press a wrong button somewhere. :p

I've not even got WhatsApp installed anywhere. I've also used (Facebook) Messenger for small, ad hoc video-meetings, and - for that - it worked adequately through the browser. (Haven't installed the Messenger App on my Mac, just my iPhone.) Of course, this has even worse privacy implications than with Google.

I've also tried some expensive solutions, with proprietary hardware, like Tandberg, for video conferencing in the past and even though they are quite good for meetings I've never though they were som much better than any of the above mentioned to justify the price. (Not tried them with rooms or for lecturing either.)
 
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Not sure that says that Zoom meetings are being sent to China.
The article says the employee worked in China. So I assume in order to do what he did the meeting info has to go to China, wouldn't it ?

I also highlights the issue the apparently zoom (the company) can at least see certain information of Zoom meetings.
 
What are the things we’re not supposed to discuss on Zoom? I’m going to try bringing them all up the next time I have a Zoom call.

Tiananmen Square Massacre, Winnie the Pooh, treatment of the Uighur people, Hong Kong and Taiwan...
I think focus on American foreign politics would have a greater impact 🤔
 
Does anyone else have an issue raising hand? Shortcut (option Y) is not working. The update now requires clicking on reactions then raise hand, not good for my usage. Shortcut does not work and changing to another shortcut does nothing either. Other shortcuts seem to work fine. Thoughts???
 
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