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MacBook Pro Supplies Tightening Ahead of Potential Refresh

iBuru said:
What about iMac updates? Would be logical to take advantage of the MBP update to introduce new iMac, right? I hope so :D:D
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Nope. Nice try though. The iMac is more than three months younger in its refresh cycle and it tends to keep roughly as long of a refresh cycle as the MacBook Pro line.
 
iBuru said:
What about iMac updates? Would be logical to take advantage of the MBP update to introduce new iMac, right? I hope so :D:D
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iMacs are so much refreshed than macbook pros, that still has directx10 graphics cards... So you can imagine..
 
Eidorian said:
I have no fascination with cars. Perhaps you could try something else?
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I wasn't planning of starting an argument about it, and of course this is subjective but for me a Windows laptop is comparable with a normal HDD and an Apple with a SSD. Surely this is only based on own experiences and no proof for that, but it just seems like everything with Apple products goes a lot smoother. For example I have a Windows Mobile phone which has a 1 ghz processor and should be extremely fast, but it runs slower (when time goes by slower and slower) than an Iphone which has less processor power for example.
The same with Windows, I have never ever owned a computer (in 15 years I have owned some) which I hadn't had to format eventually because the performance where going down drastically....
Personally I never owned an Apple computer but I have enough material in my close environment to have a reasonable comparisson.
 
Filipek said:
I wasn't planning of starting an argument about it, and of course this is subjective but for me a Windows laptop is comparable with a normal HDD and an Apple with a SSD. Surely this is only based on own experiences and no proof for that, but it just seems like everything with Apple products goes a lot smoother. For example I have a Windows Mobile phone which has a 1 ghz processor and should be extremely fast, but it runs slower (when time goes by slower and slower) than an Iphone which has less processor power for example.
The same with Windows, I have never ever owned a computer (in 15 years I have owned some) which I hadn't had to format eventually because the performance where going down drastically....
Personally I never owned an Apple computer but I have enough material in my close environment to have a reasonable comparisson.
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Perhaps you should get a SSD for that Windows laptop. I still putter around with 5400 RPM on my Macbook. (Painfully slow but I am lucky to use my Macbook for an hour a week.) If responsiveness is the only metric than I should buy a SSD. I would rather have a RAID 0 though given the prices.
 
Yebubbleman said:
Nope. Nice try though. The iMac is more than three months younger in its refresh cycle and it tends to keep roughly as long of a refresh cycle as the MacBook Pro line.
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Damn it! According to 'MacRumor's Buyer's Guide' : Days Since last iMac update 184 (Avg = 226)... So a month and a half! Still hoping update by mid/late March!

I know i'm dreaming...:(

Crossing fingers anyway:rolleyes:
 
iBuru said:
Damn it! According to 'MacRumor's Buyer's Guide' : Days Since last iMac update 184 (Avg = 226)... So a month and a half! Still hoping update by mid/late March!

I know i'm dreaming...:(

Crossing fingers anyway:rolleyes:
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Late March/early April sounds about right. Or at least, that's when we'll be seeing threads of "When is the new iMac gonna get here?!"
 
Eidorian said:
Perhaps you should get a SSD for that Windows laptop. I still putter around with 5400 RPM on my Macbook. (Painfully slow but I am lucky to use my Macbook for an hour a week.) If responsiveness is the only metric than I should buy a SSD. I would rather have a RAID 0 though given the prices.
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Well I wasn't talking about my laptop, but concerning my laptop, which is a Dell laptop a little more than 3 years old and I have bad sectors on my Harddisk and my adapter broke a couple of weeks ago. I am not planning to invest money in it, since I am afraid more things can brake in the near future and I prefer to buy a new Macbook (Pro) instead and have a rather safe investment of my money. Also a couple of weeks ago before both of my parts broke down, I had to format my laptop because of some strange virus or whatever it was, which wouldn't let me start up my windows at all anymore (And I am always up to date with my virus scanners, malware scanners etc. etc.). I am tired of things like that and as far as I know there still are no viruses on Apple computers which is another huge advantage for me to consider an Apple laptop :)
 
iBuru said:
Damn it! According to 'MacRumor's Buyer's Guide' : Days Since last iMac update 184 (Avg = 226)... So a month and a half! Still hoping update by mid/late March!

I know i'm dreaming...:(

Crossing fingers anyway:rolleyes:
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Read all the information please:

Product MacBook Pro
Recommendation: Don't Buy - Updates soon *
Notes * The 15-inch and 17-inch MacBook Pro received a new build-to-order option for a 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 processor on October 20th, 2010. We do not, however, consider this to be a significant update to the product line and thus do not include it as a data point for our calculations. Consequently, we do consider the MacBook Pro to be near the end of its product cycle based on the most recent major upgrade date of April 2010 and advise users who do not require new machines immediately to hold off on purchasing MacBook Pros.
Last Release April 13, 2010
Days Since Update 289 (Avg = 208)

If they counted the october refresh, that information should be like this:

Product MacBook Pro
Recommendation: Buy only if you need it - Approaching the end of a cycle
Last Release October 10, 2010
Days Since Update 111 (Avg = 208)
 
Posted this in MBP forum too but thought I should repeat it here.

I work in Currys UK (dont laugh) and with access to PC world and Currys stock file I can confirm shortages of 15" and 17" in our main warehouses (base models of both are showing as 0 available with no order due date). Still a few kicking about in superstores and they are allowing us to do forward orders, but stock is low.
13" model still has 300 or so still available in our central warehouse.
 
pedrofan said:
Read all the information please:

Product MacBook Pro
Recommendation: Don't Buy - Updates soon *
Notes * The 15-inch and 17-inch MacBook Pro received a new build-to-order option for a 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 processor on October 20th, 2010. We do not, however, consider this to be a significant update to the product line and thus do not include it as a data point for our calculations. Consequently, we do consider the MacBook Pro to be near the end of its product cycle based on the most recent major upgrade date of April 2010 and advise users who do not require new machines immediately to hold off on purchasing MacBook Pros.
Last Release April 13, 2010
Days Since Update 289 (Avg = 208)

If they counted the october refresh, that information should be like this:

Product MacBook Pro
Recommendation: Buy only if you need it - Approaching the end of a cycle
Last Release October 10, 2010
Days Since Update 111 (Avg = 208)
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Read all the information please - the guy was posting the update info on the iMac, not the MacBook Pro.
 
nfable said:
Just to confirm, I work as a marketer for a reseller that is supplied by Ingram Micro and all 15" and 17" are being refreshed - no definite ETA or specs known. Yummy.
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iamnotanumber said:
Posted this in MBP forum too but thought I should repeat it here.

I work in Currys UK (dont laugh) and with access to PC world and Currys stock file I can confirm shortages of 15" and 17" in our main warehouses (base models of both are showing as 0 available with no order due date). Still a few kicking about in superstores and they are allowing us to do forward orders, but stock is low.
13" model still has 300 or so still available in our central warehouse.
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Well assuming either of these reports have any weight and assuming anything else we've heard has any weight, then either:

(a) The 13" MacBook Pro isn't getting discontinued, it just isn't getting updated either

(b) The 13" MacBook Pro is getting discontinued.

or (c) It's still too early and none of this means anything.

greytmom said:
Read all the information please - the guy was posting the update info on the iMac, not the MacBook Pro.
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Win.
 
pedrofan said:
Read all the information please:

Product MacBook Pro
Recommendation: Don't Buy - Updates soon *
Notes * The 15-inch and 17-inch MacBook Pro received a new build-to-order option for a 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 processor on October 20th, 2010. We do not, however, consider this to be a significant update to the product line and thus do not include it as a data point for our calculations. Consequently, we do consider the MacBook Pro to be near the end of its product cycle based on the most recent major upgrade date of April 2010 and advise users who do not require new machines immediately to hold off on purchasing MacBook Pros.
Last Release April 13, 2010
Days Since Update 289 (Avg = 208)

If they counted the october refresh, that information should be like this:

Product MacBook Pro
Recommendation: Buy only if you need it - Approaching the end of a cycle
Last Release October 10, 2010
Days Since Update 111 (Avg = 208)
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I do not understand what you mean by that...:confused::confused::confused:

I don't care about MBP, we were talking about the iMac

Saludos!

(+1 for those who replied "Win!" or "Read all the information") ;);)
 
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iBuru said:
I do not understand what you mean by that...:confused::confused::confused:

I don't care about MBP, we were talking about the iMac

Saludos!

(+1 for all who replied "Win!")
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Well, he is right, MacRumors.com does have the "Buyer's Guide" section for a reason, and it's the best way to guess when the refresh you're looking at will occur and you should look at it before posting. But yeah, he had you down for the wrong computer.
 
again in stock

One of the reasons for this story was that availability was slipping, suggesting updates soon. But I just checked amazon and macmall and all MBPs are listed as in stock. Does this now suggest perhaps the updates are further into the future than thought? Or?
 
nyctravis said:
One of the reasons for this story was that availability was slipping, suggesting updates soon. But I just checked amazon and macmall and all MBPs are listed as in stock. Does this now suggest perhaps the updates are further into the future than thought? Or?
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It means that it's time for the rumors that actually mean something about this refresh to finally surface. Shipping times might be only starting to slip; I wouldn't ready the online shopping cart just yet though.

pedrofan said:
Sorry, this post is called "MacBook Pro Supplies Tightening Ahead of Potential Refresh"
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And he's saying that there's no substantial and visable evidence of that. Read his comment before giving him flack for it.
 
Yebubbleman said:
Well, he is right, MacRumors.com does have the "Buyer's Guide" section for a reason, and it's the best way to guess when the refresh you're looking at will occur and you should look at it before posting. But yeah, he had you down for the wrong computer.
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:confused:

Yes... Just asking for other opinions (I had already consulted the "Buyer's Guide" when I posted the first comment)


iBuru said:
Damn it! According to 'MacRumor's Buyer's Guide' : Days Since last iMac update 184 (Avg = 226)... So a month and a half! Still hoping update by mid/late March!

I know i'm dreaming...:(

Crossing fingers anyway:rolleyes:
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wait for it as the refresh is just around the corner...

28Fiend said:
Hey all~

I'm in desperate need of a new laptop, still rocking the Powerbook G4. Needed for class now, needed for trip to Japan at the end of April.

Wait for an unkown re-vamped model, unknown release date?

Buy one now because it's here now?
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I would wait just a little longer.

As long as you have a computer that functions fine at the moment and it can hold you over until the next refresh (definitely by April, if not sooner) you'll regret buying one now only to see the entire MBP line updated within the next 6 weeks or so.

Also, just FYI, Apple offers a 30 day buy-back so if you purchase a new computer and within 30 days they release a newer, more updated system, you can exchange your purchase for the difference in price with the newer system -- but keep in mind this is different from their general 14 day return policy.

So, I think you're better off waiting at least a couple more weeks before pulling the trigger on any new MBP purchase. In that way a) some more reliable update/refresh info should surface by then and b) you'll be closer to potentially taking advantage of any buy-backs, if needed.
 
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Slurpy2k8 said:
With the new affordability of the Airs, and the similarity of the 13' Macbook Pro, the current Macbook is looking less and less needed. They should get rid of it, and simplify their product line, which should also serve to unify it.
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I agree with you in principal, but we'll see.



JonLa said:
So why do we actually think they're going out of stock? Most models seem to be available at amazon....
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I wouldn't worry about this too much outside of it being a side note. The fact is the MBP's are due for a refresh within the next 6-8 weeks primarily based on the buyer's guide historical data of MBP refreshes and the fact that 2/20/11 is the official public release date for the 2nd generation of Intel i-Core mobile chipsets, if we're lucky Apple will release Sandy Bridge MBP's by the 20th of February or within a few weeks shortly after. Bringing me too...



joeshmo said:
See you 2nd/3rd Tuesday in March, MBPs.
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murdercitydevil said:
supplies don't mean much IMO. Arrandale had multiple inventory shortage rumors but nothing ever came out of it. I'm guessing March.
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I think this is a safe bet as well, but it's still possible that Apple could announce the MBP Sandy Bridge systems a week or two prior to this. Either way of it, the latest substantial refresh is just around the corner.
 
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blue22 said:
I would wait just a little longer.

As long as you have a computer that functions fine at the moment and it can hold you over until the next refresh (definitely by April, if not sooner) you'll regret buying one now only to see the entire MBP line updated within the next 6 weeks or so.

Also, just FYI, Apple offers a 30 day buy-back so if you purchase a new computer and within 30 days they release a newer, more updated system, you can exchange your purchase for the difference in price with the newer system -- but keep in mind this is different from their general 14 day return policy.

So, I think you're better off waiting at least a couple more weeks before pulling the trigger on any new MBP purchase. In that way a) some more reliable update/refresh info should surface by then and b) you'll be closer to potentially taking advantage of any buy-backs of needed.
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That's not terrible advice.
 
98% agree with you, but...

Yebubbleman said:
No, I actually mean half of its customer base. There are a lot of people that would like the 13" Pro to not just be an over-glorified non-Pro MacBook, because that's basically what it is right now. Roughly half of the people who buy that thing buy it for its looks, the other half because they want something better than the white MacBook, and currently it can barely be considered as such.

People too superficial to realize that it is a neutered computer will surely love it just as they love their purse dogs. You can't tell me that for a faster computer, the 11" MacBook Air is a better buy over the white MacBook. ...
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I don't think most people who are tech-savvy or are at least half-informed disagrees with you that the white MB is a better system performance-wise when compared to the 13" MacBook Air and is a much less expensive option when compared to the 13" MacBook Pro, regarding dollar value for features. And I also completely agree with you that the current 13" MBP is "an over-glorified non-Pro MacBook", but the reality is a lot of people are buying these 13" MBP's, and it's partly due to it's stylish form factor in contrast to the dated looking white plastic 13" MB. And I'm willing to bet more non-Pro users buy this system than otherwise.

So, this is where I think Apple will address the current "choice bottleneck" for consumers that is going on currently between the 13" MBA, 13" MB and 13" MBP and will simplify the lineup a bit more by potentially dropping one of these products. If the white MB remains for this next refresh then I'm pretty sure this will be it's last generation before being EOL'ed.

For this upcoming refresh I can see Apple offering a 11" & 13" MBA and 15" & 17" MBP as their primary laptop focus, with a "legacy" 13" MB/MBP as an option for those who need a system between the MBA & MBP for both price-point and system feature considerations. That's just a guess, but we'll all know soon enough, won't we? :)
 
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blue22 said:
Also, just FYI, Apple offers a 30 day buy-back so if you purchase a new computer and within 30 days they release a newer, more updated system, you can exchange your purchase for the difference in price with the newer system -- but keep in mind this is different from their general 14 day return policy.
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For reasons few would care about I *had* to buy a machine last week. I new of the coming SB updates and was holding out for that but my hands were tied.

Is there a reference anywhere to this 30 day return policy when a new model drops? I like my new 15" i5 but I'm contemplating returning it for a refund and just using my ipad until the SB hits the shelves. Some link to this 30 day policy would be awesome as I can't find mention of it on Apple's return policy website.
 
blue22 said:
I don't think most people who are tech-savvy or are at least half-informed disagrees with you that the white MB is a better system performance-wise when compared to the 13" MacBoor Air and is a much less expensive option when compared to the 13" MacBook Pro, regarding dollar value for features. And I also completely agree with you that the current 13" MBP is "an over-glorified non-Pro MacBook", but the reality is a lot of people are buying these 13" MBP's, and it's partly due to it's stylish form factor in contrast to the dated looking white plastic 13" MB. And I'm willing to bet more non-Pro users buy this system than otherwise.

So, this is where I think Apple will address the current "choice bottleneck" for consumers that is going on currently between the 13" MBA, 13" MB and 13" MBP and will simplify the lineup a bit more by potentially dropping one of these products. If the white MB remains for this next refresh then I'm pretty sure this will be it's last generation before being EOL'ed.

For this upcoming refresh I can see Apple offering a 11" & 13" MBA and 15" & 17" MBP as their primary laptop focus, with a "legacy" 13" MB/MBP as an option for those who need a system between the MBA & MBP for both price-point and system feature considerations. That's just a guess, but we'll all know soon enough, won't we? :)
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I'm told by a friend who used to work for Apple that they were considering dropping the white MacBook during the reign of the Late 2008 Aluminum MacBook before they became the 13" MacBook Pro. It didn't happen because they rationalized that they needed a durable laptop for the education market and the polycarbonate plastic takes much more takes external damage far more gracefully than the aluminum does. So when they rebranded said Aluminum MacBook as the 13" MacBook Pro, the debate came up again, and the same decision stood, so they made the design we all know and love (or don't if you hate the white MB) today. Frankly, their logic on all of that makes sense and isn't all that surprising. So for that reason, I'm skeptical that, if it came to the white MacBook or the 13" Pro, the white MacBook would be the one being discontinued.

For those that prefer the style and care not about specs, the 13" Air is poised to take the place of the 13" Pro whether the 13" Pro gets discontinued or not. For those that care about specs, the 15" Pro will suffice, and for those that want the power of the 13" Pro, the white MacBook will suffice unless you want the 2.66GHz model which is a rip-off anyway, in my opinion.
 
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