BiteMyApple
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4G LTE compatibility is one of the main selling points of the new iPad, but it won't work in most of the world. That leaves me puzzled... Anyone wants to explain to me why Apple is doing this?
International 4G iPad Models Will Work on AT&T, Not on LTE in Home Countries
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BiteMyApple
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aprilfools
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iPad2 - iPad3 at&t compatibility question...
Does anyone know if i switch the card out of my iPad 2 (at&t 3G) if it will work in the new iPad? I want to keep my date plan (the original $29.95 all you can eat plan) but with the new iPad.
Also... I would want to sell my old iPad2 (ebay) but with the card that came with the new at&t iPad so that whoever I sell it to, can have 3G if they want to pay at& t for that service.
Hope that all makes sense...
Does anyone know if i switch the card out of my iPad 2 (at&t 3G) if it will work in the new iPad? I want to keep my date plan (the original $29.95 all you can eat plan) but with the new iPad.
Also... I would want to sell my old iPad2 (ebay) but with the card that came with the new at&t iPad so that whoever I sell it to, can have 3G if they want to pay at& t for that service.
Hope that all makes sense...
dBeats
macrumors 6502a
I still find it lucky to find 3G in many places in Europe!
imacuser01
macrumors newbie
Why can't these stupid telecommunication companies talk to each other and have a standard frequency for LTE. This was the perfect time for all these companies in different countries to agree on a standard, instead they created the same mess like on the 2G and 3G, everybody has a different frequency.
The Government sells or auctions the frequncies to the stupid companies. Once they have a frequency they build on it. They build on it for now and the future. For example 1900 mhz frequency for T-Mobile goes back to the 90's. They are currently building HSPA ++ on it in some areas. Thats why some people have a unlocked iPhone on a fast T-Mobile 4G network.
jayducharme
macrumors 601
We all know why: it's called competition. This is where governments can be very useful, in forcing standardization that would then benefit consumers. Of course, that's a double-edged sword because government "standards" rarely keep pace with rapidly changing technology.
Why can't these stupid telecommunication companies talk to each other and have a standard frequency for LTE. This was the perfect time for all these companies in different countries to agree on a standard, instead they created the same mess like on the 2G and 3G, everybody has a different frequency.
It's a lack of spectrum. I'm sure the companies would prefer to have fewer frequencies to deal with. However, particularly in the US, a lot of frequencies are already in use for other purposes. Asking the US military to stop using communication equipment so that Apple can make fewer versions of the iPhone and iPad isn't likely to be fruitful.
The 700MHz spectrum freed up in the US because that's where analog TV used to broadcast before the digital changeover a few years ago.
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Governments did press for interoperable technologies (LTE is part of the GSM standard first adopted by the EU). However, that doesn't mean there will be enough spectrum in each band.
Huh? Isn't that the opposite of what the article is saying? It appears the Verizon version only supports one band.
imacuser01
macrumors newbie
I had a Nokia phone that T-Mobile doesn't sale. I took out my SIM and put it in there and I was able to get 4G speeds on it. From what I read, I was able to get the 4G connection because it supported both the 1900 and 2100 Mhz frequencies used by T-Mobile. So, the questions is can I do the same with this new Ipad? The specs. show those two frequencies?
Why can't these stupid telecommunication companies talk to each other and have a standard frequency for LTE. This was the perfect time for all these companies in different countries to agree on a standard, instead they created the same mess like on the 2G and 3G, everybody has a different frequency.
They do, they have, it hasn't helped.
According to an article on The Register, "800MHz is harmonised across Europe, and 2.6GHz is harmonised around the world", so it's a bit of a shame that this device supports neither frequency band really...
Certainly here in the UK, the 700MHz frequencies used by the AT&T one appear to be that used by our TV transmitters. It's definitely not a simple thing to standardise on, not when there's already plenty of existing services using that part of the radio spectrum, but you could argue that if the rest of the world has agreed on these frequencies, why isn't the US? It seems particularly ludicrous if even different phone companies within the US are using different bands, requiring different models of the iPad with different transceivers/antennae? But then, where would be the fun in that?
If I was remotely cynical, I'd think that from the phone companies perspectives it would at least stop you using your iPhone/iPad on another network and lock you into sticking with them?
Not that we actually have LTE to bother with at the moment, and maybe iPad 17 will be out and supporting the right frequencies by the time we actually get it up and running with coverage outside central London...
CDMA is a funny thing bec my company (worldwide) bought a few old Kindles years ago and send them to germany...
Is there a country which uses CDMA except USA ?
The Kindles btw where never used..
Mr. Retrofire
macrumors 603
No, but the next generation chips (MDM9615 and MDM9215) support all LTE bands.
See also: Qualcomm's Next-Generation Gobi Platform Consolidates Mobile Standards Support for Future iOS Devices
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The problem is: No hotspot in rural areas.
They aren't widely deployed. If I go to the independent coffee shops in town or the taqueria down the street, there are no carrier hotspots.
Same thing if I'm at a park, beach, the swimming pool, on a train, etc. Cellular data networks are much more widely deployed than carrier wifi hotspots.
Moreover, if you don't have a cellular contract, you won't be able to use the carrier's hotspot without paying an additional fee. You think you can connect an iPod touch to a T-Mobile wifi hotspot for free?
The lack of ubiquitous carrier wifi hotspots is why some people carry around MiFi devices.
SO which networks in the US and Canada support > 42Mbps on their 4G networks ?
I suspect none at all (in reality).
So whilst I can't use 4G on Telstra Australia, I can get as good if not better speeds than the US/Canada 4G networks currently provide.
Sure in a few years time when 4G is actually implemented it will go faster, but seriously who is going to have their iPad 3 in 2 or 3 years time anyway.
Spectrum isn't strictly-speaking an english word, so it uses latin plurals. Spectra is the plural of Spectrum.
China Telecom. They just booked 200,000 pre-orders of the iPhone 4S. They have 129 million mobile subscribers.
India's another large market where CDMA technology dominates.
Depending on who you ask, CDMA mobile operators provide about 15-25% of the world's cellular telephony, the remainder mostly going to GSM/UTMS mobile operators.
Kaibelf
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No. There IS no 4G in Europe really, and that's their problem, not Apple's.