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I just had another thought;

The taller aspect ratio is 16:9 same as a wide screen tv. Maybe it has something to do with the iTV. Maybe it is somehow tied. I know it is a stretch but who knows.
It's a stretch. :D BTW of course it is a TV thing. Networks are about to be slammed. 30% of network traffic is already Netflix and they don't even fund the bandwidth. At least Apple tries to pave the way for servers, end use devices and network contracts. They haul their own weight.

Then slam their partners' networks with users and usage. :D

Rocketman
 
Fake !

No way apple will release a phone with seams!

Lol remember those guys ?!

It's real and I'm disappointed :(


Apple will probably tell us why it's better to go taller than taller and wider. Pretty much telling us we are stupid

Wouldn't it be good for watching movies? Sometimes when driving with other people, I have watched movies on Netflix or something. I think a wider screen would be better.
 
4.1" diagonal looks good to me.. i have a 4S now so ji dont care how long the 5 takes i will get it when i feel like it..
 
So you believe the new iPhone will be 16:9.

Can you provide some specific counterarguments to those presented in the Gizmodo article.

Yeah. Let's see...

Battery impact

But let's keep on going with this scenario and assume Apple's suppliers can secretly produce a 367ppi, 4-inch 720p 16:9 display by shredding virgin unicorn ponies and compressing them inside their secret artificial black hole. What will be the cost in terms of battery life? As with the iPad, the impact of this display in the battery life of the iPhone would be monumental, thanks to the increase in graphic power demands, pixel activation, and backlighting.

Would you be happy to switch black bars in TV series for less battery life or a thicker, heavier iPhone? I'm sure Apple wouldn't like to make that trade-off.

It's going to be 1136x640, versus the current 960x640. It means that the new iPhone is going to have 1.18 times the pixels of the current 4S. It's less than a 20% increase. The new iPad went through a 400% increase, included an high-power GPU, and managed to retain the same battery life.

Fragmentation

That new screen format would also introduce fragmentation into a platform that doesn't have any right now. Zero. None. One iPhone format to rule them all will suddenly be divided and Apple will suddenly lose one of its key advantages over Android

Developers would have to rework all of their apps to work in both the new 16:9 phone and the huge installed base. There are gazillion units of iPhones 3G, 3GS, 4 and 4S out there. And their owners all keep buying new apps. A sudden change in aspect ratio will double developer costs for years to come. And, like I said before, letterboxing old apps is not a good option. They will look like crap and defeat the whole purpose.

So, for years to come, developers would have to maintain two user interface layouts, greatly increasing their costs. This is not like creating new higher resolution art to accomodate the increased density of the Retina display. That's easy. Making new layouts for all current and future applications, however, would be much more dramatic.

Current apps are going to work just fine. They are going to perfectly fit in the new screen, leaving a 176 pixel blank on the bottom of the screen, which can be used for whatever Apple sees fit. Normal applications are going to be easy as hell to optimize for the new screen, as well.


The iPad conflict

The iPad and the iPhone have different aspect ratios now. 4:3 vs. 3:2. That's not much of a problem, as the iPad apps have completely different layouts. It's also not a big difference. Games, which are the apps that are more similar between platforms—are easily adaptable for both aspect ratios.

But, if the iPhone goes 16:9 for the sake of adopting the 720p standard, it would make sense for the iPad to go 16:9—or somewhere near that—too. If you adopt one logic to one product, you may as well adopt it for the other.

The problem is that a 16:9 iPad would be absolutely ridiculous.

This simply makes no sense. An iPhone is an iPhone, and an iPad is an iPad. If the iPhone changes aspect ratio, I don't see how the iPad should be affected, especially as it just changed its resolution on the last refresh.


Steve's golden goose

That's an idea that was repeated many times by Steve Jobs. He—and Tim Cook, for that matter—expressed his disgust with the 16:9 format one the iPad and the iPhone, saying that it doesn't make much sense from a design point of view. Except for movies, it's a format that doesn't bring much benefit. And it's actively bad for things like books and magazines.

If we're talking about iBooks, you can fit more lines of text in an higher resolution, no matter what the ratio is. If we're talking about magazines... come on, who reads magazines on the iPhone? Besides, they can fit the same magazine pages as they could on an iPhone 4S screen, and use the leftover space for navigation controls or whatever they want.

The iPhone and the iPad, as Jobs said, happened after many years of brainstorming, planning and development. At the time, they truly believed they had found the magic formula. The market agreed and still agrees. Despite the variety of formats in the Android platform, despite the fact that big screen smartphones have found an audience, iOS keeps selling more and more, its sales increasing at a staggering rate. Even after so many years in the market, Apple's formula keeps winning.

This one makes even less sense. It's delirious.

Sometimes, Gizmodo simply does not have a clue. They convince themselves that something is true and try to prove it taking it seriously and writing articles with a convincing tone, stating things that can't hold any ground. Apple was capable of mass producing 960x640x3.5" screens in 2010, and now they say that 1136x640x4" would hinder performance and battery life, and would require unicorn dust to be produced? Please.
 
I guess some apps could benefit from the extra width when in landscape mode, and watching movies could be better.....

What are the benefits when using the phone in portrait mode?

Seems to me this has to be about indirectly adding width, not height.
 
Assuming that the width hasn't changed then the new part shown has a viewable area that's 1/2" longer.
That makes the viewing area 2" x 3.5" which is a 16:9 ratio and a 4" diagonal.

Ties all the rumors together nicely.
 
I'm sure Steve at some point would have increased the size of the iPhone display if new materials were available and the costs were minimized. I doubt that everything that Steve did was written in stone for all eternity. I'm sure his thinking would adapt to the times. I find it hard to believe he'd still stick with a 3.5" iPhone display four or five years from now.
 
A 16:9 (preferably 1280 x 720) iPhone is one of those things, I'm sure, Apple would love to have been able to sell, but the practical issues (nicely described by Gizmodo) are simply there.
Of course when Apple were designing the first iPhone (also the first iPad) they, of course, have tested and tried them all. All sizes and shapes: 4:3, 16:9, 16:10 etc.
It seems that 4:3 is the best compromise.

IF, if... Apple can design the iPhone to have a 16:9 screen (which in all honesty must be crossing everyone's mind.... think of the HD Airplay brilliance....) they must be able to solve the 4:3 letterbox issue. Make those black lines seem integrated or so...

I just would love to see the screen of the iPhone / iPod Touch come closer to the physical edge of it. Create a bit more screen real estate on the current physical size. That would be perfect for me.
But, hey... I need glasses to read.... ;)
 
How can you figure that out with just a picture?

Metadata. It is in every picture taken on DSLRs, smartphones etc...Just like how when you open an MP3 in iTunes you can tell the artist, track number, song title, album art and so on.
 
In an argument as to what CONSUMERS want in a phone, why do you fanboys always make it about what makes sense for the best profitability Apple? Are you Tim Cook? :rolleyes:.


Isnt that what all companies do? Whatever makes the most profit?
Sure, in your little fantasy world you can have companies that pander to the whim of every person, screw the profit, but I've got news for you, this is a capitalist society and that's not how things work. So that's not how Apple works. It has figured out the most profit it can make is by designing 1 phone, and that's what it will continue to do. I'd love them to design 10 phones all .1 inch apart to satisfy every person. But it'd be a bad business decision which is why Apple won't do it. That's part of why they're so successful and part of why I love their products. They make the best product for the most number of people, not the most products for the best number of people. Sure it means a small % will be pissed they didn't make a 4.3 or a 4.8 or a 5.3" phone, but most will go buy the new iPhone and love it
 
No way. They deliberately shifted the release of new iPhones to Fall when they delayed the 4S. The holiday season is the best time to have a new product on the market, not one that's been out for 6 months. Especially with the iPod waning in popularity.

As much as I really want a June/July release I have to agree with this. It makes a lot more sense to release it in Fall for every reason you state.
 
I have an idea for how they can use the extra vertical space if the app isn't (yet) optimized to use it: keep the app tray there at all times. That would make it much more efficient to switch between your most used apps, (like the dock on OSX). Then this can disappear when an app is optimized to use the whole area
 

Did you not even read one sentence into the article? Obviously you're interested in the new iPhone and what it might look like. So you see a picture of a larger then normal front frame on the front page....And then what? Not read anything at all? But then go pull images off the internet, copy them into Photoshop, typeset and point out differences, etc. Not to beat a dead horse, but it boggels my mind that you wouldn't read the article, but yet post about it.
 
Looks good to me. Keeping a relatively narrow form factor, makes sense for ease of use. Other large screen smart phones are getting just a little too big to operate with one hand.
 
I remember, when iPhone4 parts started to leak, and especially after the Gizmodo pictures, a lot of people dismissed the newer design. I didn't like it too much either at the time. Now it is a standard.

I don't like the idea of a taller screen but who knows what the real thing will feel like once people start interacting with it.

Agreed. Everyone said the iPhone 4 leak couldn't possibly be an Apple product. Going back before that too, the iPod Nano 3rd Gen (fatty) which everyone hated (including myself) before it hit the shelves. Once people got their hands on that nano, it was an adorable little iPod and ended up being my favourite iPod Nano generation. The product red one was beautiful.

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Did you not even read one sentence into the article? Obviously you're interested in the new iPhone and what it might look like. So you see a picture of a larger then normal front frame on the front page....And then what? Not read anything at all? But then go pull images off the internet, copy them into Photoshop, typeset and point out differences, etc. Not to beat a dead horse, but it boggels my mind that you wouldn't read the article, but yet post about it.

He's a newbie. He just wants the post counts. Give him a few more days, I'm sure he'll be banned like the rest.

I have an idea for how they can use the extra vertical space if the app isn't (yet) optimized to use it: keep the app tray there at all times. That would make it much more efficient to switch between your most used apps, (like the dock on OSX). Then this can disappear when an app is optimized to use the whole area

I really like this idea. As long as they have it look like the dock and not the multitasking tray. It'd be really cool to have RSS feeds take up that space as well, but we know that'll never happen. I'd expect to see that on an Android device. *cough* jailbreak *cough*
 
I wonder if this iPhone will be the equivalent of the iPod nano "Fatty", lasting only one generation with a new form factor only to return to one similar to the old.
 
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