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Anyone who has 5 upgrading to 5s after just 1 year?
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Right, which is why the staggered upgrades are crucial (2 accounts renewing alternating years). I buy the new phone every year at $199 (16gb) and sell the two years ago model (in this case, 4s) on eBay. I'll probably get around $200 for the 4s to make it a wash financially.
Got the 5 on release day last year. AT&T released me from contract when I complained about the 61 cent administrative fee increase in May. I will be getting the 5s, although I am not overly impressed.
I'm going from the 5 > 5S because my mother is kind enough to let me use her upgrade....
Here's my sitch:
I'm on a family plan still because its cheaper than my wife and I splitting to our own plan (which wouldn't save either of our families any money theirs). I'm the mobile device junkie in my family. I'm also the oldest and only kid who works - both my brothers are in college/law school and my sister is still in HS - so I have money to drop on devices.
On our family plan we have 5 phone lines and 2 iPad lines. One of those iPad lines is mine, while the other is my mom's so effectively we have 7 upgradable lines. My siblings all use theirs every two years, so those 3 are off limits to me.
My wife is on a plan with her mom and grandmother - both of whom are perfectly content with their devices (a 4S and 5) and couldn't care less about upgrading.....really they only do it when we present the opportunity.
This is how my 2013 has gone as far as smartphones....
(1) Began the year with an iPhone 5 I got at launch on my mom's iPad line. (My phone line's upgrade was used to get the 4S in Feb 2012....was sorta a forced thing as my 4 died and I figured I'd just use the upgrade).
(2) Bought a Nexus 4 in February - my first Android device. My job requires a cell so I was, at the time, carrying two iPhones around. Figured I would switch my personal device to an Android since I was required to have an iPhone for work.
(3) Used an early upgrade on my phone line in May to purchase an HTC One (sold my Nexus 4).
(4) Used my mother-in-law's upgrade in August to purchase a GS4 (sold my HTC One - made $250).
(5) Recently sold my iPhone 5 in preparation of the 5S (will make $225 after purchasing 5S).
My plan is to use my mom's upgrade on the 5S, and sometime down the line, use an early upgrade from my iPad line to purchase a 5C for $350. I'll also keep tabs on the Nexus 5 and will likely pick one up when it's released so essentially I'll have:
Galaxy S4 (main personal phone)
Nexus 5 (backup Android)
iPhone 5S (main work phone)
iPhone 5C (backup iPhone)
Unfortunately, this sets me up to be without an upgrade until early 2015, but I can deal with that. If the 6 is mind-blowing I'll have devices to sell to offset the cost of buying it outright.
Isn't family great
Here's my sitch:
I'm on a family plan still because its cheaper than my wife and I splitting to our own plan (which wouldn't save either of our families any money theirs). I'm the mobile device junkie in my family. I'm also the oldest and only kid who works - both my brothers are in college/law school and my sister is still in HS - so I have money to drop on devices.
On our family plan we have 5 phone lines and 2 iPad lines. One of those iPad lines is mine, while the other is my mom's so effectively we have 7 upgradable lines. My siblings all use theirs every two years, so those 3 are off limits to me.
My wife is on a plan with her mom and grandmother - both of whom are perfectly content with their devices (a 4S and 5) and couldn't care less about upgrading.....really they only do it when we present the opportunity.
This is how my 2013 has gone as far as smartphones....
(1) Began the year with an iPhone 5 I got at launch on my mom's iPad line. (My phone line's upgrade was used to get the 4S in Feb 2012....was sorta a forced thing as my 4 died and I figured I'd just use the upgrade).
(2) Bought a Nexus 4 in February - my first Android device. My job requires a cell so I was, at the time, carrying two iPhones around. Figured I would switch my personal device to an Android since I was required to have an iPhone for work.
(3) Used an early upgrade on my phone line in May to purchase an HTC One (sold my Nexus 4).
(4) Used my mother-in-law's upgrade in August to purchase a GS4 (sold my HTC One - made $250).
(5) Recently sold my iPhone 5 in preparation of the 5S (will make $225 after purchasing 5S).
My plan is to use my mom's upgrade on the 5S, and sometime down the line, use an early upgrade from my iPad line to purchase a 5C for $350. I'll also keep tabs on the Nexus 5 and will likely pick one up when it's released so essentially I'll have:
Galaxy S4 (main personal phone)
Nexus 5 (backup Android)
iPhone 5S (main work phone)
iPhone 5C (backup iPhone)
Unfortunately, this sets me up to be without an upgrade until early 2015, but I can deal with that. If the 6 is mind-blowing I'll have devices to sell to offset the cost of buying it outright.
Isn't family great
I'm going from the 5 > 5S because my mother is kind enough to let me use her upgrade....
Here's my sitch:
I'm on a family plan still because its cheaper than my wife and I splitting to our own plan (which wouldn't save either of our families any money theirs). I'm the mobile device junkie in my family. I'm also the oldest and only kid who works - both my brothers are in college/law school and my sister is still in HS - so I have money to drop on devices.
On our family plan we have 5 phone lines and 2 iPad lines. One of those iPad lines is mine, while the other is my mom's so effectively we have 7 upgradable lines. My siblings all use theirs every two years, so those 3 are off limits to me.
My wife is on a plan with her mom and grandmother - both of whom are perfectly content with their devices (a 4S and 5) and couldn't care less about upgrading.....really they only do it when we present the opportunity.
This is how my 2013 has gone as far as smartphones....
(1) Began the year with an iPhone 5 I got at launch on my mom's iPad line. (My phone line's upgrade was used to get the 4S in Feb 2012....was sorta a forced thing as my 4 died and I figured I'd just use the upgrade).
(2) Bought a Nexus 4 in February - my first Android device. My job requires a cell so I was, at the time, carrying two iPhones around. Figured I would switch my personal device to an Android since I was required to have an iPhone for work.
(3) Used an early upgrade on my phone line in May to purchase an HTC One (sold my Nexus 4).
(4) Used my mother-in-law's upgrade in August to purchase a GS4 (sold my HTC One - made $250).
(5) Recently sold my iPhone 5 in preparation of the 5S (will make $225 after purchasing 5S).
My plan is to use my mom's upgrade on the 5S, and sometime down the line, use an early upgrade from my iPad line to purchase a 5C for $350. I'll also keep tabs on the Nexus 5 and will likely pick one up when it's released so essentially I'll have:
Galaxy S4 (main personal phone)
Nexus 5 (backup Android)
iPhone 5S (main work phone)
iPhone 5C (backup iPhone)
Unfortunately, this sets me up to be without an upgrade until early 2015, but I can deal with that. If the 6 is mind-blowing I'll have devices to sell to offset the cost of buying it outright.
Isn't family great
LOL exactly the same here too
Samsung S4 (work Phone)
iPhone 5 (Backup Phone)
iPhone 5S (work Phone)
No more new phone till iPhone 6s spend to much money this year.
I think this is the stance of a lot more people than we realize. We see all the excitement on these boards from the people who want to do the upgrade, but we really don't see much from the people who aren't bothering to get a true gauge. I think for some people, the upgrade works (especially if you own a 4S or 4), but I know a number of friends/colleagues who are big into Apple products (myself included) and aren't really that interested in this release.
I'm sure Apple will still do well enough, and sell enough to label it as a success (or spin it as a success), but if my experience is any indication of the majority, I know they could have sold many more had they included a more in the upgrade.
Mine said October 22nd 2013 when I looked on Apple. I called AT&T and talked them into letting me get my partial discount early. After doing some research on their website, they have not updated their upgrade options:
I told them about this and they were happy to adjust my eligibly date to allow me to get the partial discount on September 20, 2013, however, I can only get it at an AT&T store as it will not be in Apple's system which is fine by me. He escalated the issue through his supervisor to get the website fixed so I'm not sure how long this will state the old policy, so YMMV.
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I was talking with an AT&T rep phone call got dropped.
Just curious, is this something were they make a note of it on their systems. So on the 20th when they look up your information, lets say at the AT&T store, they will see you are eligible for an early upgrade on September 20th rather than October 22nd?
Also on a side note concerning AT&T do I have this correct:
I bought my iPhone 5 on October 23rd 2012. And signed a 2 year contract.
My options:
Pay like $35.00 a month for the next program. Will be able to buy latest iPhone at the base price. No contract. Locked to AT&T? Unlocked?
On the 20th of September get an iPhone 5s buying it outright at $849.00. My current contract which I am a year into keeps going. iPhone 5s unlocked.
Wait till October 24th (or September 20th if I can get AT&T to allow it) as per apple store app and early upgrade eligibility. Pay $649.00. Sign new 2 year contract.
The way I look at it for me. I either save $200.00 now with early upgrade, but pay down the road ala iPhone 6, because I sign a new 2 year contract.
Or I pay the extra $200 now and leave my contract alone but save on upgrade for iPhone 6.
But I don't know 1. Will early upgrade(a year into the contract) still be available when the iPhone 6 comes out?
2. Would I save more than $200 for an iPhone 6 if my 2 year contract completely expired?
Are you planning on getting the 64GB 5S according to those prices?
If so, you'll save $200 with the early upgrade this year on the 5S ($849 - $649)
If you wait till your contract is up for the iPhone 6 (October 23, 2014) you will save $450 ($849 - $399)
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I agree.
I am fairly confident the IP 6 will have all the 5S features and a bigger screen.
Seems logical to wait.
Besides, I will be eligible for a full subsidy then.
Frankly, there is nothing compelling about the 5S, and nothing wrong with the 5.
It IOS7 we all really want.
I am fairly confident the IP 6 will have all the 5S features and a bigger screen.
Seems logical to wait.
Besides, I will be eligible for a full subsidy then.
Frankly, there is nothing compelling about the 5S, and nothing wrong with the 5.
It IOS7 we all really want.
Well I just got off the phone with AT&T and mentioned I wanted to add a line (which would be a family plan) and she pretty much knew exactly what I wanted to do and said Yes they can transfer upgrades between these 2 lines.
My questions is now what is best way for me to do this since I don't currently have a cheat 3G capable phone to activate. Go buy a contract free Cheap phone at BestBuy or ebay? Do those Go Phones work in this instance?
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I'm thinking of upgrading my 4S to the 5, although up til now, Canadian contracts have been 3 years for the same subsidies. That recently changed by our government, but I still have 1.75 years left on my contract and have had the phone for 1.5 years (early renewal). The new contracts are 2 years though.
I wonder if I can convince my provider to shorten the contract or something...
Buying the 5 unlocked used makes good sense for me versus the 5S or 5C.
You'll be fine with the 5. Since ive owned every iphone since the 3g, I've been trying very hard today to find something wrong with the my 5 so I can find an excuse to get the 5s lol. To be honest with you I can't find anything wrong with it. It's very fast and smooth. I'm sure the 5s will be faster but the 5 is very fast already. Good luck with whatever you buy.
I don't think I've even turned the crap phone on since the day I did the upgrade swap. :-D
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Well I just got off the phone with AT&T and mentioned I wanted to add a line (which would be a family plan) and she pretty much knew exactly what I wanted to do and said Yes they can transfer upgrades between these 2 lines.
My questions is now what is best way for me to do this since I don't currently have a cheat 3G capable phone to activate. Go buy a contract free Cheap phone at BestBuy or ebay? Do those Go Phones work in this instance?
I believe the phone I used was an AT&T Go Phone...the rep just swapped out the SIM card.
Annual Upgrade
I am on a family plan and we have been upgrading annually for the last 4 generations or so... we look at it this way:
- No need to buy $79 AppleCare since warranty is extended each year
- Included is a $19 Wall Adapter, $19 Lightning Cable & $29 headphones
- NextWorth (through a referral offer) is offering $451 for a iPhone 5 in like-new condition
- AT&T is offering $200 off a new iPhone
Therefore if you consider the above, you could get:
Unlocked:
- $849 (Minus $451, $79, $19, $19 & $29) = $252 out of pocket this year
- $399 (Minus $400 [estimated trade-in], $79, $19, $19 & $29) = -$147 earned next year
- Therefore, over 2 years you pay essentially $105 out of pocket
Contract Extension:
- $649 (Minus $451, $79, $19, $19 & $29) = $52 out of pocket this year
- $649 (Minus $400 [estimated trade-in], $79, $19, $19 & $29) = $103 out of pocket next year
- Therefore, over 2 years you pay essentially $155 out of pocket
So in our case, we will go for the unlocked iPhone, this way we dont extend our contract, end up receiving $50 more when we trade in next year and since we travel abroad frequently, take advantage of the additional LTE bands in this new generation of iPhone with foreign carriers abroad.
Of course the other option is to pass this version up; however, we are both most excited about the M7 chip and in the end, waiting would really only save us about $50 bucks:
Waiting:
- $0 out of pocket this year
- $399 (Minus $200 [estimated trade-in], $79, $19, $19 & $29) = $53 out of pocket next year
My family plan sharing counterpart recklessly replaces their iPhone under AppleCare at least once a year, since the introduction of the lightning connector, one can never have to many cables and I like the new headphones so all in all for us anyways, this isnt half bad of a deal.
On another note, for those of your that need additional lightning cables, Living Social (with 13% off coupon) has a Brookstone offer of $25 for $50 which can afford 2 lightning cables and with TopCashBack click throughs (to both Living Social at 10% and Brookstone at 8%) in total it will come to just under $10.00 per cable!
I am on a family plan and we have been upgrading annually for the last 4 generations or so... we look at it this way:
- No need to buy $79 AppleCare since warranty is extended each year
- Included is a $19 Wall Adapter, $19 Lightning Cable & $29 headphones
- NextWorth (through a referral offer) is offering $451 for a iPhone 5 in like-new condition
- AT&T is offering $200 off a new iPhone
Therefore if you consider the above, you could get:
Unlocked:
- $849 (Minus $451, $79, $19, $19 & $29) = $252 out of pocket this year
- $399 (Minus $400 [estimated trade-in], $79, $19, $19 & $29) = -$147 earned next year
- Therefore, over 2 years you pay essentially $105 out of pocket
Contract Extension:
- $649 (Minus $451, $79, $19, $19 & $29) = $52 out of pocket this year
- $649 (Minus $400 [estimated trade-in], $79, $19, $19 & $29) = $103 out of pocket next year
- Therefore, over 2 years you pay essentially $155 out of pocket
So in our case, we will go for the unlocked iPhone, this way we dont extend our contract, end up receiving $50 more when we trade in next year and since we travel abroad frequently, take advantage of the additional LTE bands in this new generation of iPhone with foreign carriers abroad.
Of course the other option is to pass this version up; however, we are both most excited about the M7 chip and in the end, waiting would really only save us about $50 bucks:
Waiting:
- $0 out of pocket this year
- $399 (Minus $200 [estimated trade-in], $79, $19, $19 & $29) = $53 out of pocket next year
My family plan sharing counterpart recklessly replaces their iPhone under AppleCare at least once a year, since the introduction of the lightning connector, one can never have to many cables and I like the new headphones so all in all for us anyways, this isnt half bad of a deal.
On another note, for those of your that need additional lightning cables, Living Social (with 13% off coupon) has a Brookstone offer of $25 for $50 which can afford 2 lightning cables and with TopCashBack click throughs (to both Living Social at 10% and Brookstone at 8%) in total it will come to just under $10.00 per cable!