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'Incredible' Response to iPhone 6 and 6 Plus as Apple Sets Overnight Pre-Order Sales Record

Why hasn't it been mentioned that obviously Apple has bolloxed up the preorders with no where near enough 6+ phones being available online?

Don't tell me they didn't know this was going to happen. They are one of the largest companies in the world... they pay a lot of people a lot of money to know this stuff.
 
kerrikins said:
That's silly, why would you assume that every single person out there is buying two models? Most people haven't even said anything of the sort.
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People think they are reasonable, so if they think a certain way, they conclude most people must think the same way. It's like human law.
 
This just goes to show you how wrong Apple was about what people wanted in the past 3 years...
 
i-John said:
Why hasn't it been mentioned that obviously Apple has bolloxed up the preorders with no where near enough 6+ phones being available online?

Don't tell me they didn't know this was going to happen. They are one of the largest companies in the world... they pay a lot of people a lot of money to know this stuff.
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As the rumor predicted it would happen.
Remember so many analysts saying Apple would start selling the 5.5 later than the 4.7
I bet it was their original plan. Instead, they decided to go with this so-called ground-breaking demand by offering very limited quantities.
 
i-John said:
Why hasn't it been mentioned that obviously Apple has bolloxed up the preorders with no where near enough 6+ phones being available online?

Don't tell me they didn't know this was going to happen. They are one of the largest companies in the world... they pay a lot of people a lot of money to know this stuff.
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They (Apple) are Master Manipulators of both product and words. They never release sales details but ALWAYS state RECORD SALES. The hype is ridiculous. A couple of countries governments remind me of this...

In any case, the 5.5" was rumored to not even be available at first, so the fact they had any was surprising. What's not surprising is they probably had very few to sell. Or, to get people to buy them, they created an artificial shortage which always freaks people out and causes a false demand, and a bunch of crazed people doing anything to get their hands on one.

Me? I waltzed into a local BB around noon and no one was in the "Apple Line", and I walked right up and put in my $50 deposit for pick up of a iPhone 6 next Friday. Easy.
 
ElTorro said:
This just goes to show you how wrong Apple was about what people wanted in the past 3 years...
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Apple still has the halo effect. If they offer a 7.5 iPhone at this point, it will also sell well.
3 years ago they were more reasonable and could't afford to produce big phones in such quantities without decreasing its margins.
 
kerrikins said:
I'm sure your friends reflect the entire market and the sales will suck this time around.

Maybe their sales aren't as good as they're making out to be but if anything Apple is usually cautious with their comments. I wouldn't be surprised if, once again, they sell even more than last year's launch.
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How dare I do anything but suck Apples e-dick around here? Right? Lets just be honest... that's what you're trying to say.

Read what I wrote, please... I said I am SURE they're selling well, but, year after year, release after release, Apple does these same sorts of press releases. "WERE SHOCKED WITH THE SALES!!! THEYRE AMAZING!!! RECORDS ARE BEING SMASHED!!!"

...but yet, they never release actual numbers. If these figures are ALWAYS so astronomical, why don't they just give out numbers?

Don't even try to give me that "Then Samsung will know!" ********, because if Samsung wants to know, they will know. They're a huge company with friends in very high places.

The fact remains, Apple knows a big part of driving sales is fooling consumers into thinking everyone else is also buying their products. The old "Keeping up with the Jones'" social commentary. Peer pressure drives a great deal of Apples sales.

Why are so many buying the Plus before even holding one? Why are so many buying these huge phones after years of complaining about large phones?

Simple... peer pressure. It's important to the Apple community that you always have the "best", the "newest" and the "top of the line". Form over function every time.
 
HD303 said:
Incredible. Once again Apple's production team can't get quantities right. They've only been in this game for how long?
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Often a matter of meeting ANY demand at all...no company ever has even attempted to sell this many of any electronics product this quickly...and each year the demand goes up. Imagine if 80 million people wanted PS4's before December 31st last year. Imagine if they wanted them THIS year. That's all the Xbox 360's or PS3's sold so far, in 3 months time.
 
ElTorro said:
This just goes to show you how wrong Apple was about what people wanted in the past 3 years...
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Or that Apple has its product feature timing down perfectly. In the past 3 years each successive iPhone has broken the sales record of its predecessor. So one could argue it was cooking demand via a slow boil like a fine chef and milking sales of the 3.5 & 4" screens in the interim.

Also, assuming the iPhone 6 is leads to blowout growth, it's not repeatable. Whenever Apple introduced the larger screen would be a one time bonanza because it's the first of its kind and people are rushing to replace. I doubt the iPhone 6S(and +) will experience growth in the same % as the iPhone 6 and +.
 
isoft7 said:
How dare I do anything but suck Apples e-dick around here? Right? Lets just be honest... that's what you're trying to say.

Read what I wrote, please... I said I am SURE they're selling well, but, year after year, release after release, Apple does these same sorts of press releases. "WERE SHOCKED WITH THE SALES!!! THEYRE AMAZING!!! RECORDS ARE BEING SMASHED!!!"

...but yet, they never release actual numbers. If these figures are ALWAYS so astronomical, why don't they just give out numbers?

Don't even try to give me that "Then Samsung will know!" ********, because if Samsung wants to know, they will know. They're a huge company with friends in very high places.

The fact remains, Apple knows a big part of driving sales is fooling consumers into thinking everyone else is also buying their products. The old "Keeping up with the Jones'" social commentary. Peer pressure drives a great deal of Apples sales.

Why are so many buying the Plus before even holding one? Why are so many buying these huge phones after years of complaining about large phones?

Simple... peer pressure. It's important to the Apple community that you always have the "best", the "newest" and the "top of the line". Form over function every time.
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I couldn't agree with you more. Very well put.

I wish people would quit comparing Apple and Samsung. Why they feel the need to compensate for their obsession with Apple by slamming Samsung is beyond me. To each their own. Different systems for different people. Be happy with your own decision and let others be happy with theirs.
 
isoft7 said:
How dare I do anything but suck Apples e-dick around here? Right? Lets just be honest... that's what you're trying to say.

Read what I wrote, please... I said I am SURE they're selling well, but, year after year, release after release, Apple does these same sorts of press releases. "WERE SHOCKED WITH THE SALES!!! THEYRE AMAZING!!! RECORDS ARE BEING SMASHED!!!"

...but yet, they never release actual numbers. If these figures are ALWAYS so astronomical, why don't they just give out numbers?
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...but they do release sales figures...?

http://www.apple.com/ca/pr/library/...e-Sales-Top-Nine-Million-Sets-New-Record.html

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/10/28Apple-Reports-Fourth-Quarter-Results.html

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2014/01/27Apple-Reports-First-Quarter-Results.html

Also, no, I'm not saying that you have to ~suck Apple's e-dick~. I'm saying that going 'lol my friends aren't ordering so they're exaggerating the numbers' is foolish. It's based on pure anecdotal evidence.
 
HD303 said:
Incredible. Once again Apple's production team can't get quantities right. They've only been in this game for how long?
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Or Tim Cook can't learn the lesson of pushing out product w/o adequate inventory, similar to the revised iMac 27" a couple years ago. We heard rumors about production issues w/ the 5.5". Seems now those may have been true. Would have been better for Apple to delay launch of that model until late Oct. so it could get enough stock to prevent backorders and customer complaining.
 
I think I am in the first wave of shipments for the 6 plus via at&t. I actually was able to complete my order for two if them via at&t at 2:40am EST 20 minutes before they were supposed to go live. Had my confirmation by by 2:44am for both phones. Got charged the tax for both phones already too.

I have yet to see a single person from the hundreds of comments I read on here receiving the 6 plus "from at&t" on the 19th. My dates have been the same since 3am showing I will receive the phones 10/02-10/13. I am hoping this eventually changes and gets bumped up a bit. But if I can at least get it by beginning of October it wouldn't be the end of the world. Especially with the 6 plus demand right now.

I could gamble and cancel my pre order, but I think for the 6 plus I'd have to be in line by midnight, not really about that life lol.
 
Does anyone know at what time do apple stores post and recheck the availability of products so we can still keep trying to pre order and pickup on launch day?

I remember when I bought the iPhone 5 it was at around evening time the stores would show availability to order online and pickup again.
 
isoft7 said:
How dare I do anything but suck Apples e-dick around here? Right? Lets just be honest... that's what you're trying to say.

Read what I wrote, please... I said I am SURE they're selling well, but, year after year, release after release, Apple does these same sorts of press releases. "WERE SHOCKED WITH THE SALES!!! THEYRE AMAZING!!! RECORDS ARE BEING SMASHED!!!"

...but yet, they never release actual numbers. If these figures are ALWAYS so astronomical, why don't they just give out numbers?

Don't even try to give me that "Then Samsung will know!" ********, because if Samsung wants to know, they will know. They're a huge company with friends in very high places.

The fact remains, Apple knows a big part of driving sales is fooling consumers into thinking everyone else is also buying their products. The old "Keeping up with the Jones'" social commentary. Peer pressure drives a great deal of Apples sales.

Why are so many buying the Plus before even holding one? Why are so many buying these huge phones after years of complaining about large phones?

Simple... peer pressure. It's important to the Apple community that you always have the "best", the "newest" and the "top of the line". Form over function every time.
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The thing is, they do release the numbers. And since this quarter ends so quickly after the launches, it's easy to see how many were sold in the launch period. To put it simply, every year, every phone is sold out...and every year they keep making more...do you not expect them to continue to be proud of their success? Don't they owe it to their own investors to talk about this in public?

It's important to any tech community to have the best, newest, and top of the line. Cars too. Has absolutely nothing to do with form over function either, you're going to have a hard time proving that when Apple's "form" is being used by all of their competitors.

As far as Apple goes, they have solid track record with their customers, and at the time their phones launch the competition can't compete. And since customers in the US are on a 2 year cycle, who is going to wait until March for the next entry from their next biggest competitor? Let alone leave the ecosystem they're already in, losing all their apps and even iTunes purchases.

Finally, you say it's a "fact" that Apple knows and purposefully fools its customers. That's why people can't take you seriously, that's why you get offensive remarks sent in your direction, you don't even have the "facts" straight or even the definition of the word "fact" before you go on and on with your "opinion".

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dmylrea said:
I couldn't agree with you more. Very well put.

I wish people would quit comparing Apple and Samsung. Why they feel the need to compensate for their obsession with Apple by slamming Samsung is beyond me. To each their own. Different systems for different people. Be happy with your own decision and let others be happy with theirs.
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Can you point me to the galaxyrumors forum that is full of Apple fans slamming Samsung in every thread? What you say here is absolutely right but it's pretty obvious which of these loyal communities is spilling out into the other to insult and contradict everything that you've said.
 
When it comes to shipping iPhones, iOS is the bottleneck. Once iOS 8 is GA it needs to get flashed on all those phones.

They're not about to reopen all the boxes, hook them up, and upload iOS onto them, and close them back up. In fact, I'd love to know exactly when iOS is stuffed onto the phones in the assembly process.

Without iOS 8 you can do a lot of assembly, but I think it'd be ultra-risky to do any flashing once the case is on (see the finishing issue on iPhone 5). Flashing a device takes what, 10 minutes?

They could theoretically have the device on in DFU mode with WiFi on, waiting for the iOS load. Then iOS could power off the phone once it's been loaded. Maybe that was the basis of WiFi sync back in the day?

Anyway, building millions of things takes a while, especially if you have to load/test/verify everything. I'm not surprised there's always a shortage. If iOS 8 was done a month ago they could have started building iPhones a month ago.
 
Iconoclysm said:
Can you point me to the galaxyrumors forum that is full of Apple fans slamming Samsung in every thread? What you say here is absolutely right but it's pretty obvious which of these loyal communities is spilling out into the other to insult and contradict everything that you've said.
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No, I cannot, since not only do I not own a Samsung phone, but I don't frequent the forum site you referenced. BUT, I do read plenty of the comments of the articles here on MacRumors, and the slamming comparisons to Samsung and put-downs of Samsung owners are frequent.

You are also exaggerating my point. I didn't say anything about a "forum that is FULL of Apple fans" or did I say it was "in every thread".

Your comment does paint you as someone who is sensitive to it also, though...
 
Theory

Is it possible that Apple was planning all along to just release the 6 but based on an improved development schedule and a perceived demand they decided to try and sell the 6+ at the same time? It would certainly make sense that they have tons of 6s available (because they've already had those in production for a while) where as they just started producing the 6+ and there aren't many to go around yet.
 
dmylrea said:
No, I cannot, since not only do I not own a Samsung phone, but I don't frequent the forum site you referenced. BUT, I do read plenty of the comments of the articles here on MacRumors, and the slamming comparisons to Samsung and put-downs of Samsung owners are frequent.

You are also exaggerating my point. I didn't say anything about a "forum that is FULL of Apple fans" or did I say it was "in every thread".

Your comment does paint you as someone who is sensitive to it also, though...
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It doesnt happen on other forums. I'm a member of several android forums and I don't see people coming there strictly to slam android and talk about how great apple is.

This is one of many places where Samsung (and it is only Samsung) users come to bash apple. They are worse than the worst apple fanboy. I love android, but Samsung and some of its users are horrible.
 
ElTorro said:
This just goes to show you how wrong Apple was about what people wanted in the past 3 years...
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True, because they didn't sell any iPhone 5's, 5s's, or 5c's.

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tstormchaser said:
Is it possible that Apple was planning all along to just release the 6 but based on an improved development schedule and a perceived demand they decided to try and sell the 6+ at the same time? It would certainly make sense that they have tons of 6s available (because they've already had those in production for a while) where as they just started producing the 6+ and there aren't many to go around yet.
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Seems unlikely. They may have just misestimated the relative product mix demand. Analysts make up crap like '5.5" iPhone delayed!' and everyone takes it as fact. FWIW, my 6+ is set for delivery on the 19th, ordered directly from Apple at 24 minutes after midnight last night. So there must have been plenty to go around ;-)
 
I live in chicago , I was sitting in front of my iMac ready to click purchase by 11:45pm little did I know i would be watching my screen for the next 6 hours! I watched a full season of "It's Always sunny in Philadelphia" thanfully I was able to purchase my 64GB iPhone 6 plus by 6:32am with a great delivery date :)
 

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cmaier said:
True, because they didn't sell any iPhone 5's, 5s's, or 5c's.

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Seems unlikely. They may have just misestimated the relative product mix demand. Analysts make up crap like '5.5" iPhone delayed!' and everyone takes it as fact. FWIW, my 6+ is set for delivery on the 19th, ordered directly from Apple at 24 minutes after midnight last night. So there must have been plenty to go around ;-)
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That just blows my mind. I refreshed the Apple website and tried the apps as well. By 2.5 hours into the preorder, I'd still not gotten thru to Apple either way. It just kept saying the store would be right back or something.
 
ElTorro said:
This just goes to show you how wrong Apple was about what people wanted in the past 3 years...
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Not at all. People would have bought a new phone anyway as they're due for upgrades with their carrier. I'm holding out hoping Apple releases the original 3.5" screen size and call it the iPhone Nano. I have 0 interest in the larger screens and I find the iPhone 5s really awkward to operate single handed let alone fit in the pocket
 
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