Whoever did that, back to design school with you - SHOO!
It is not, two hard drive bays are too much waste of space and where to put the SSD blade? The Apple TV is an ARM computer, so it will not become that small. But the current Mac mini size is still derived from the width of an optical disk drive and that's not the future either.
Thanks for the rant.
Mac mini with OS X Server means two drives, Fusion Drive means one drive and one SSD blade. The second drive bay is unnecessary. One 9.5mm notebook drive can now hold up to 2TB of data, enough for many use cases. And exactly the same amount of storage space Apple is offering today with its two 1TB drives maximum.
So no, we would lose nothing by making the Mac mini a little smaller. And the current MacBook Pro isn't too thin either. I have an old one and I never use the optical drive and I never use the Ethernet port. That's all useless weight, I have to carry around. Let the Floppy Disk die already!![]()
Whoever did that, back to design school with you - SHOO!
Yes and no. The non-optical disc versions are thiner and if you crack one open, you'll see there is very little if any unused space. Outside of totally doing away with traditional HD's (and possibly user-removable RAM, which would suck), I don't know how they are going to save more space.
Yes they are thinner without the optical drive, but I'm not speaking only about height, but also width and depth. These 7.7 times 7.7 inch are a legacy from when there was an optical drive in the Mini and I'm not sure if this footprint is best for a future without spinning disks. Just because there is so very little unused space, they have to change the innards anyway to make room for an SSD blade slot on the motherboard.
And while they are at it, why not rethink the positioning of everything else in there? A modern hard drive is only 7mm thin, why not put it above or beneath the motherboard instead of next to it? Look how small the Wi-Fi chip in an iPhone has become. Apple is kind of done with Infrared and Firewire. These things are only still in there because the Mini is overdue for a new form factor.
I should probably follow my own advice and sell my End-2012 Mini while it's still worth it's weight in gold.![]()
If usb3.1+DAM becomes mainstream next year, I guess that even Apple can't deny that and at the latest in 2016 Apple needs to get on board. With TB3 with incorporated dp1.3 or ditching TB for good and replacing it with usb3.1+DAM.Or 2018-2019+. It took almost four years for TB 2 to incorporate DP 1.2. And even that hasn't yet made it to the Mini (or the iMac for that matter). TB 3 is not planned to incorporate DP 1.3 when it rolls out with Skylake in 2015 (or 2016 if Broadwell is any indication), so you're probably looking to at least TB 4 for DP 1.3 to arrive on the scene. By the time that makes its nMP/MBP debut and trickles down to the Mini we'll probably be celebrating the new decade.
Apple is kind of done with...Firewire. These things are only still in there because the Mini is overdue for a new form factor.
Yeah, that diaper trash can cassette form factor looks great!
16 people who upvoted seem to think so!
Where's the real graphics card? I hope the mac Mini comes with it, and not with Intel Crappy Graphics.
On a laptop, soldering ram lets them make the case smaller and thinner. So if they want a certain size they do need to solder it. Not sure why soldered ram keeps coming up on this thread when they have never done that on a desktop computer.
And msata isn't good enough. They didn't go with a proprietary connection for those just to be different, they did it because going proprietary let them achieve speeds faster than existing SATA or mSATA. Faster SATA standards are in the works but they weren't available yet when Apple released these machines with drives that went faster than SATA allowed. Once there are faster SATA options available Apple may embrace them.
I've been waiting too long Apple.
I don't care if it doesn't have the latest cpu. Just give me a decent GPU, 6gbs of ram and a 500gb SSD drive.
And PLEASE be cheap.
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Apple prefers I buy a new product and discard the old one. So much for green...
If they re-design, I suspect soldered and proprietary is what they will do. Its a complete money grab.
As much as I want it not to be so, I bet you are right.
arian19 said:Hopefully this will shut up those mac mini fans.
The fans on my MacMini are very quiet.![]()
I wish they would make one that used desktop grade hardware and had a pci-e slot for graphics cards. Something with some power.
If not cheap...at least reasonable.![]()
They announced the new Mac Pro 5-6 months before it shipped.