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I'd like to know, if the mac mini is launched this month, does that mean it will be available to buy in the shops this month? I need to buy a new computer before the start of Nov. Thanks
 
I may very well send it off to have the standard 1 TB spinning HD replaced with an SSD when the need arises. I suspect I would see more speed increase from that than from any processor upgrade.

I have a 2012 i7 2.3 with 16GB RAM. I work using PS CS6 and occasionally Aperture. I replaced the OEM 1TB HDD with a Crucial M500 960GB SSD. While the M500 is not that fastest SSD out there it had the storage capacity and price that I needed.

To be non-scientific about it it the SSD is stupidly fast compared to the 5400RPM HDD. The same thing happened when I put M500s in MY 2012 MBP and 2010 MP.
 
I'm so glad now that i didn't hit buy earlier on a 2012 i7 mac mini now.

i'm wanting to get more into osx since microsoft is destroying windows (super ugly ui in windows 8 and 10), but i dont need a laptop, dont need an imac, already have monitors, and don't wanna buy the mac pro. mini is the best choice for me.

Can't wait to have beautiful Yosemite!
 
And I will repeat it: in the case of blade SSD Apple's proprietary connector allows faster speeds than the available standards.

And third parties have made upgrade SSD drives for some mac models in the past, hopefully that will happen again particularly if macs all standardize on one SSD form factor, proprietary or not. At this point it's more an issue of pci-E blade SSD being fairly rare more than being proprietary.

Regardless of your drivel, I have a Macbook Pro Retina 2014 that I can not upgrade my RAM and I can not upgrade my SSD. PERIOD. It is a $2500 Laptop that can not be serviced except through Apple at outrageous Apple prices. I can't buy more than a 3YR Warranty when most PCs can get 3-5 easy.

Apple does not want to standardize and its 100% financial on their part.
 
I can not upgrade my SSD

And I will repeat it again. When apple made that machine their options were to go with a proprietary SSD form factor or go with a slower one.

If you have a different set of priorities you should have bought a different machine. But there are plenty of other users who are happy to have the speed and understand the necessary engineering tradeoffs considering the state of SATA interface standards.

Funny, for a post that was drivel, you didn't contradict a single thing I said. Do you dispute that Apple is using a connection that's faster than SATA or not? Hell, you have the machine, have you benchmarked the speed of the drive?

Some more drivel for you. Benchmarking that drive you have, maxes out at 790 meg per second reads, writes not much slower than that. How fast would the max be again if they had stuck with connections that weren't proprietary?

http://blog.macsales.com/25770-owc-unboxes-tests-ssd-speeds-of-new-13-and-15-retina-macbook-pros

Really your beef is with the guys working on the SATA standard for not having something faster available yet.
 
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Hell, you have the machine, have you benchmarked the speed of the drive?
I run my mac mini with two SSD's in RAID0. When Apple puts proprietary crap in their systems, this is not possible given the drives are not replaceable. RAID 0 with two Samsung/Crucial SSDs puts my speeds in the 950-1000Mbs

When larger SSDs are available, I can upgrade the two I currently use. Not if I have proprietary crap. This puts me in a position to make my system last MUCH MUCH longer.

Memory is the other issue. Soldering it to the board turns your laptop and some Apple desktops into disposable iPad like devices. Annoying, but a valuable money grab for Apple.
 
I run my mac mini with two SSD's in RAID0. When Apple puts proprietary crap in their systems, this is not possible given the drives are not replaceable.

Your macbook pro only holds one drive, so doing an internal raid isn't an option regardless of whether it's a proprietary drive connector or a standard one. I suspect the next mini may go back to a single drive slot which makes that a moot point. Anyway we don't know what the next mini will have, even if it's their proprietary connector it still may be possible to swap the drive (like it is with the mac pro).

With drives that are proprietary but still modular it's possible for third parties to make replacement units. This has happened in the past, we'll see if it happens again with the pci-E versions.
 
Last I checked, they're using bog standard PCI-E connections. The only thing custom about them is probably the firmware on the drive itself, but they're no faster than any of the other high end offerings out there.

You mean the mini PCI-e format or M.2? The mac blade SSD have a different slot configuration than other blade SSD I've seen.

Looks like OWC has upgrade drives in development, they showed them a while ago so I'm not sure why they're not shipping yet. It also looks like the form factor is the same for both Macbook pro and the new Mac pro.

http://blog.macsales.com/25878-owc-gets-1200mbs-from-ssd-in-2014-macbook-pro-with-retina-display

As for speed, I was comparing to SATA. PCIe gives a big speed boost but at this point the blade versions are fairly bleeding edge, they're not very common and it seems like there are multiple sizes and slot configurations possible. As the blade SSD becomes more common and mainstream we should see more drives available including some replacement options for these macs.
 
Next mini whenever arrives will be more mini than ever, you have warranted soldered ram and propertary pcie ssd, and no firewire port.

Maybe iris pro 5300 gpu on top end, and maybe no server out the box option.
 
You mean the mini PCI-e format or M.2? The mac blade SSD have a different slot configuration than other blade SSD I've seen.

mac isnt using a different connector, M.2 has mulitple types as you can see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2.
Mac is using M.2 slots since the latest update to Haswell. I have one in my 2013 27inch iMac and 2014 Air. Mac does hardware limit what SSD that will work with there software, so you cant upgrade them yourself.

I think what people are forgetting is the mini isnt a multi solutional product. It as a simple starter mac for people not willing to invest heavy into a mac computer. They added OSX to the mini which gave it a second role but I wouldnt push it more than that. Apple has been good at allowing users to upgrade ram but I wouldnt expect any other options other than external connections for harddrives etc. Video and CPU wont be upgradable as mac has never done this, and for simple reasons stability. If you want a better video card for playing games go by a PS3/4 or an XBOX which does exactly what it says it does, play games. This appliances is for checking emails, surfing the web and maybe watching some netflix.

Simple way to look at apple products is its an appliances, not a computer. Its designed to preform specific tasks and it does them well. Unlike a PC which you build that has the ability to be fully customize but along with that ability you will have stability issues.

I hope apple focuses on making the MINI better at what it does good already, small platform for either a media PC, a grand parents PC (cheap and simple) and a home server PC.

Beercules.
 
mac isnt using a different connector, M.2 has mulitple types as you can see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2.
Mac is using M.2 slots since the latest update to Haswell.

The SSD in the latest macs doesn't look like any of the connectors shown in that article, the notch is off center but only slightly. It looks closer to the shape of mSATA, not sure if it matches some other slot format or if it's unique to apple.
 
Wouldn't they want to ship them with 10.10 though?

At this point they definitely would ship any new models with 10.10. If the latest GM candidate turns out to be final, they could ship machines with it very soon.
 
I think we can expect a refresh tomorrow.

This is really a no-brainer.

Everyone keeps saying broadwell, etc. Why?

It makes more sense for them to recycle the chips from the older macs, refresh the current mini, and keep it on the back burner like they always have since it represents such a small % of their sales.

Yet, as a piece of Apple culture, they have to refresh it if they are to release Yosemite tomorrow since it makes them look foolish to have a computer so antiquated run Yosemite.

If they don't refresh it, they might quietly discontinue it come tomorrow since the may see the low end iMac as the replacement to this.

Yes, that makes no sense to me either, but to them it makes perfect sense. Either cut this loose for good or mildly, quietly upgrade it.

In an ideal world, it should be a headless iMac.

But in the narcissistic world of Apple, they will make this a headless mac book pro....or discontinue it all together.

But it gives them too much of a black eye tomorrow to NOT do anything about it. The tip that macrumors got was from a very reputable source so I think we can count on it being true. The only reason it hasn't got more traction is because it draws attention to a benign product of Apple.

Expect it to be released tomorrow but in the quietest way possible with no redesign, just up-dated internals and, maybe, a $100 price cut cross the board but with more included ram and a minimum of 1TB hd.
 
What would be cool is if they can make the Mac mini as *small* as the Apple TV. Just not as thin as some of the other things they've been making. Who knows, they may be headed down that path too.
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If it were smaller...would it go or process youtube better...or any other website or work better with word or pages or pdf? This would be change of no consequence.
 
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Size just doesn't matter that much. People just want a headless computer that is powerful enough and affordable. Honestly Apple has been dropping the ball with headless machines for years now.
 
I bought a couple 2012 Mac Mini Server models, changed the hard disks to SSDs, RAM to 16GB, and they are so much faster than my 2009 8 core Mac Pro.

A Mac Mini with the latest 4 core i7 CPU , an SSD hard disk, 32 gigs (read that 32 gigs!) of RAM capability, and the same general specs of the 2012 Mac Mini (HDMI, USB 3 or newer, THunderbolt 3, etc) would sell like hotcakes, IMO.

I'd buy one immediately. Instead, Apple dumbed down the 2014 version so it wouldnt compete with the Mac Pro and iMac so I wouldn't expect too much now.
 
I bought a couple 2012 Mac Mini Server models, changed the hard disks to SSDs, RAM to 16GB, and they are so much faster than my 2009 8 core Mac Pro.

A Mac Mini with the latest 4 core i7 CPU , an SSD hard disk, 32 gigs (read that 32 gigs!) of RAM capability, and the same general specs of the 2012 Mac Mini (HDMI, USB 3 or newer, THunderbolt 3, etc) would sell like hotcakes, IMO.

I'd buy one immediately. Instead, Apple dumbed down the 2014 version so it wouldnt compete with the Mac Pro and iMac so I wouldn't expect too much now.
I know I'd buy one, but the times of buying a Mac as powerhouse are definitely over.

I'm switching to a dedicated Windows machine for anything that needs heavy-lifting this year, Mac will remain my daily driver for everything that is personal, home office, etc, but to me there is little point in trying to find an option in their lineup that they don't offer or going for a machine that's outdated just to squeeze in 1-2 more years of Mac as powerhouse computing. What for? Is there any reason to believe they will change course? Not at all, so it's better to move on sooner than later.

Dropping Aperture still stings and will permanently affect how much I'm willing to trust and invest both financially as well as document-type-wise in this company.

Glassed Silver:mac
 
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