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Way to miss my point, I specifically said I'd rather see them make the case NOT that small since it is so limiting for performance.

People may have already said this, but it's a Mac 'Mini' for a reason, I love the form factor, I don't want a workstation/desktop sized PC cos then I can't stick on top of home cinema in the corner of the room and never worry about it.

Saying that, I've been considering a home rack server setup and jsut using AirPlay to my TV to work from everything... then I don't have to EVER see the computer or the home cinema ;)

Here's hoping they've squeezed in some epic tech into a hardware masterpiece. Quad core isn't the be-all-end-all... I bought one first edition intel and saw zero improvement for years (and even then only really in heavy tasks like post-processing, rendering, occasionally gaming). I'll be happy with a box that's been tweaked and tuned and runs Yosemite properly as right now the public beta runs like a dog (for heavy tasks)
 
Their proprietary connector is barely faster

Some of the pcie SSD in these new macs have benchmarked in the 700-900 meg per second range. SATA III maxes out below 600. I wouldn't call that barely faster.

In 2-3 years, these systems can use even faster technology yet to be released.

What specifically? A system that uses SATA III can be maxed out now, faster drives will come out and machines that are limited to the older, slower standards can't take advantage.

the new iMac released over the summer has soldered RAM.

True, that one lowest model does have that. Thanks for the correction.

standard connectors so that I can install larger/faster drives

SATA lets you install larger drives, but not faster ones since that bus is maxed out already. There will be faster SATA standards but Apple chose not to hold back speeds and wait on those.

If they re-design, I suspect soldered and proprietary is what they will do.

Is the new faster SATA or mSATA standard shipping yet (or even finalized)? If not, then it makes sense for apple to use their own faster connection for SSD drives. Time will tell about the ram, I hope they do stick with user expandable. And boost the capacity.

People may have already said this, but it's a Mac 'Mini' for a reason, I love the form factor, I don't want a workstation/desktop sized PC cos then I can't stick on top of home cinema in the corner of the room and never worry about it.

It wouldn't have to be anything close to workstation/desktop size to use desktop CPU. Bigger than it is now certainly but it probably wouldn't have to be that much bigger, they could still stick with the name "mini".
 
Very keen... could replace users of the old Mac Pro's who didn't want to cash out for the newest Pro. Fingers crossed for FW800 along with lots of Thunderbolt ey
 
That's not the point and there are some Apple products that can not be configured to their full potential. For example, the low end Mac Mini in 2012 was not configurable to 16GB RAM when it first was release. Neither was the low end Macbook Pro. You had to buy the high end model to be able to configure it with higher spec. This also applies to storage. Apple forces you to buy higher end products to get better specs. It is a gimmick. The low end models supported 16GB and because they were upgradeable, people would upgrade them on their own.

The real issue is that Apple is on path to force you to configure your product at their WAY over priced specs. They force his by soldering RAM and creating proprietary connectors for their flash storage, putting proprietary firmware on their storage which forces fans to go full speed when the FW is absent, etc, etc, etc. Do they need proprietary connectors? Do then need to solder RAM? msata not good enough? The answer is that they want to force you to buy their configurations and then force them to be obsolete so you buy a new one in a couple years.

If I buy a machine, I want to buy it and as time goes by, upgrade it with the latest and greatest hardware. All until I am ready for my next one. Apple wants you to buy a new one when you are ready to upgrade it. Good for Apples cash fund, CRAPPY for it's customers.

You act like this is some new strategy. Apple has been doing this since the Apple 2. There are so many other non-Apple options for consumers like you I don't even understand the point of complaining.
 
You act like this is some new strategy. Apple has been doing this since the Apple 2. There are so many other non-Apple options for consumers like you I don't even understand the point of complaining.

Uh,

#1 because I like the Apple OS... Their OS EULA does not allow you to run it on non-Apple devices.
#2 When they moved toward Intel based system, they got away from the proprietary crap. Sooo, no, they have not done it since Apple 2

Need me to explain further?
 
Uh,

#1 because I like the Apple OS... Their OS EULA does not allow you to run it on non-Apple devices.
#2 When they moved toward Intel based system, they got away from the proprietary crap. Sooo, no, they have not done it since Apple 2

Need me to explain further?

I didn't realize that firewire, lightning, 30 pin connectors, thunderbolt and generally inaccessible all-in-one computers were so unproprietary. Need me to explain further?

Seriously, I actually think Apple's proprietary standards make them a better company. Without that control over hardware and OS, Apple would be just another commodity PC maker.
 
if anyone cared to read the story on the Mac mini page itself here on MR they state that the source of this news is actually from someone who got it right a couple of times before..

"Most recently, MacRumors received a tip that Apple has a Mac mini update in the works, with a possible launch coming in October, alongside the new iPads and presumably OS X Yosemite. There were no additional details on what to expect for the next-generation Mac mini, but the source who supplied the information has provided us with accurate data in the past."

:):)

sauce- https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/mac-mini/
 
Take my money please. I betcha it won't bend in my pocket. Seriously, I am ready to pull the trigger as soon as it's available.

Me too. I can't believe it's coming!!! :apple: I been waiting a year now. I got a MBP 2012 during the wait but can't wait to deck out the new mini!
 
I really hope this is true, although it's cutting a bit close to take advantage of an 18 month no interest financing at our local Simply Mac store (the deal ends 10/31/14). I've been needing/wanting a new Mac for a good two years now and have made my current MBP 15" 2009 model work.
 
I really hope this is true, although it's cutting a bit close to take advantage of an 18 month no interest financing at our local Simply Mac store (the deal ends 10/31/14). I've been needing/wanting a new Mac for a good two years now and have made my current MBP 15" 2009 model work.

Haha same issue as me! :D

I'm using my "college" laptop as a personal laptop at home too atm.
 
Actually, i wouldn't mind a Gold version ....

While Apple are at it, go all out gold across their entire product line :)

That will help heaps too.
 
New Mini

Well, I am definitely in the market for several new mac Mini's. I support several businesses still living and suffering the XP era with very dependent and sensitive aviation software and their machines are slowly collapsing. None of the companies want to go to or stay with Windows 8x and a good majority are primarily file servers... perfect for mac Mini and samba (v1 dependencies) together with iMacs running VMWare/Win7 combos. Need 2/4Tb raid drives, no cooling fans or moving parts, 1000Gb/fibre ethernet. USB optional, would like thunderbolt drives for backup... well dreams are free.
 
I have no immediate need to upgrade...

unless the new one has some very compelling features. The late 2012 i7 4 core Mac Mini that I currently use is my first Mac, after switching from many years (sometimes happy but more often miserable) of using Windows. It is also the first computer I've ever owned that I rarely think about except when I pop it open to clean it. It has not crashed in about 17 months of being on virtually all the time. It is almost silent at all times, rarely gets beyond warm (it has only gotten very warm when my grandson was visiting and running Minecraft on it for hours), and runs all of the CC applications using two displays with apparent ease. I've got it maxed out to 16 GB ram, and I can edit photoshop pans or composites of over 1 GB with no issues. I can now understand Apple users who I used to read about keeping their hardware way beyond when Windows users would upgrade. Rather than upgrade to a new Mini, I may very well send it off to have the standard 1 TB spinning HD replaced with an SSD when the need arises. I suspect I would see more speed increase from that than from any processor upgrade.
 
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I didn't realize that firewire, lightning, 30 pin connectors, thunderbolt and generally inaccessible all-in-one computers were so unproprietary. Need me to explain further?

Seriously, I actually think Apple's proprietary standards make them a better company. Without that control over hardware and OS, Apple would be just another commodity PC maker.

My discussion started with the Drive/SSD (storage), and RAM. I will repeat it... Apple has recently moved towards soldered RAM and proprietary storage (either by putting firmware on the drives that cause non-Apple drives to cause issues, or installing Flash Drives with proprietary connectors). Its a complete money grab by Apple on the backs of customers.

When I buy a Macbook Pro $2k-3k laptop, I would like it to last years. Given the advancing technology, I would need to upgrade standard common parts like RAM and Storage to make it usable longer. The trend with Apple currently is to remove those options and force you to upgrade if you need more of either.
 
Flash Drives with proprietary connectors

And I will repeat it: in the case of blade SSD Apple's proprietary connector allows faster speeds than the available standards.

And third parties have made upgrade SSD drives for some mac models in the past, hopefully that will happen again particularly if macs all standardize on one SSD form factor, proprietary or not. At this point it's more an issue of pci-E blade SSD being fairly rare more than being proprietary.
 
Mini is great

unless the new one has some very compelling features. The late 2012 i7 4 core Mac Mini that I currently use is my first Mac, after switching from many years (sometimes happy but more often miserable) of using Windows. It is also the first computer I've ever owned that I rarely think about except when I pop it open to clean it. It has not crashed in about 17 months of being on virtually all the time. It is almost silent at all times, rarely gets beyond warm (it has only gotten very warm when my grandson was visiting and running Minecraft on it for hours), and runs all of the CC applications using two displays with apparent ease. I've got it maxed out to 16 GB ram, and I can edit photoshop pans or composites of over 1 GB with no issues. I can now understand Apple users who I used to read about keeping their hardware way beyond when Windows users would upgrade. Rather than upgrade to a new Mini, I may very well send it off to have the standard 1 TB spinning HD replaced with an SSD when the need arises. I suspect I would see more speed increase from that than from any processor upgrade.

I agree with this 100%. My MacMini is core i7 16ram but conventional hard drive. Its still a blindingly fast computer and as quick for me in Windows via bootcamp as my Ivy Bridge PC Xeon Workstation in office tasks and actually quicker in Autocad and Navisworks software (I don't know how this should not be the case). The Mini is awesome using Handbrake - it converts DVD Movies to MP4 in 6 minutes, as opposed to 50mins on my Sandybridge Mac Air i5, and 8 minutes on my 6 core Xeon workstation (again this should not be the case).
At some stage will upgrade to SSD but in the meantime I could not be happier - unless they release one with dedicated graphics.
BTW am I the only person who thinks "its been way to long" refers to a possible 17inch Mac Pro relaunch?
Logo looks like touchscreen though.
 
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