Moronic???? Excuse me? Just get this: You can upgrade ram, BUT you can't upgrade the graphics card. That makes a laptop with a dedicated graphics card a better buy (value for money), although it might not be a better performer/experience (So always upgrade ram to at least 1 GB).Why do people have this view? It's moronic.
1GB>>Better graphics card unless you are a gamer, in which case you aren't buying a Mc. More RAM allows you to multitask better and for the 99% of MB owners who don't game it is far more useful.
Nonsense. And besides, they can just as well replace the GMA950 with the X3000.Azurael said:There isn't space on the MB's logic board for a graphics chip in a 13" configuration anyway.
Because obviously for professional video editors and stuff they need a high end graphics card, I agree with that.
The reason the Mac Pro and the MBP haven't got integrated graphics is that they do drain the performance of other parts of the computer as they share the RAM. This wouldn't change by upgrading the graphics card to a X3000, and at a consumer level the performance hit is negligible.
Why do people have this view? It's moronic.
1GB>>Better graphics card unless you are a gamer, in which case you aren't buying a Mc. More RAM allows you to multitask better and for the 99% of MB owners who don't game it is far more useful.
If I remember correctly, you could get a SuperDrive with the $1,099 model before... Now I have to pay $1,299 for it?
I don't mind the no-Santa-Rosa bit, or no ultra-portable, but forcing customers to now pay more to have a SuperDrive seems harsh.
and at a consumer level the performance hit is negligible.
Yeah, I actually had one in my cart with my Apple account info and credit card number entered and hit checkout and it redirected me. It cleared my cart because it stated that there was not enough supply of the item I had requested and they will email me when the product becomes available again.
I wonder if anyone actually got past that point in checkout and if there's a snowballs chance in Hades that Apple will honor it.
If you got one, post. Then keep us updated if you actually get it.![]()
i seriously doubt that 99% of Mac owners don't game. in fact, i'd guess that a majority of us DO game, and that majority would appreciate that Mac would do more to appease us. i don't buy the argument to "use a PC for gaming and a Mac for everything else." well, i for one, want my macbook to at least have some rudimentary gaming, and i'll bet i'm not alone.
Puts it at £601 at my educational dicount
I have to join the crowds of disappointed people here. I don't own a mac yet, I've been waiting 6 months because:
1. I don't want to buy a MBP (I want a small screen, and they are overpriced)
2. MB is good enough in every other aspect apart from the graphics chip!
Such a shame Apple didn't put SR into the MacBook today. No body needs the hard disk upgrade. Memory is cheaper to buy off line from apple anyway. And a few percent on the processors makes no difference to 95% of the users. But the graphics chip is putting so many people off the MB. SR does make a big difference in that respect.
Shame, I was following the threads at work today and felt the excitement that apple might finnaly fix this achilies heel on the MB.
What to do? Back to rumour monitoring I guess.
But thanks to all for the entertainment on a slow work day![]()
I'm not trolling. I've been waiting since November for this update to buy my first Mac. I was ready to order today.
While all other manufacturers are announcing their brand spanking new SR laptops Apple give us this and you call it a "solid update".
I think everyone can agree that this update stinks. Slightly faster, last gen CPUs. Brilliant.
When all comparable laptops are shipping with SR and DVD burners as standard we'll see how "good" this update is, eh?
...although I, and every single person I know with a mac (which is at least a dozen) doesn't game at ALL.
I can't wait to see the reactions to the MBP. It will max out at 2.4GHz (again only a 70MHz increase), OSX doesn't support Robson yet (but there may be an OS update), and a paltry 166MHz increase in bus speed.
The only things worth looking forward to are LED screens and a better GPU. And from what I have heard the LED screens are nothing to write home about.
With suffiecient RAM, it does do more than rudimentary gaming.
...although I, and every single person I know with a mac (which is at least a dozen) doesn't game at ALL.
Until they fit a DVD writer as standard - it isn't. There are PC laptops out there for half the price of the base spec with DVD writers included. When you sell the package as being for home media, then take away the ability to write DVD's - something is wrong.
I bought the cheapest macbook as a refurb last week - love it to pieces - but I still thing Apple are screwing their customers by not including DVD-writers in every model.
At some point, people need to stop comparing the MacBook and MacBook Pro to 'every other laptop out there'. The claims that in months the MacBook is gonna look like crap because 'every other laptop out there' has Santa Rosa are unfounded. The claims that Apple is overcharging for 'yesterday's technology' compared to 'every other laptop out there' are also unfounded. Look at Dell.. Sure they just introduced some new Santa Rosa laptops, but their bottom end is AMD Sempron and Core Duo (not Core 2 Duo). Gateway still sells computers with P4s in them... *that* is yesterday's technology.
Apple's entry pricepoint is higher than these other manufacturers and that is an area where you can complain, but if you compare feature for feature the MacBook to things in its price range, it's really not a bad deal at all.
Apple MacBook: Yesterdays technology at today's prices.
EVERYONE would've been happier had they stuck with 1.8 and 2.0 and gone with Santa Rosa. Now the graphics, CPU and chipset on the MB will be a generation behind every other laptop for the next 6 months.
Good work Apple. Idiots.
As someone waiting to buy their first Mac I am FURIOUS with Apple and their continued raping of MB buyers.
The MBs are the line of computers that will benefit most from SR and Apple do THIS? I actually cannot believe it. They are absolute bastards.
I can't wait to see the reactions to the MBP. It will max out at 2.4GHz (again only a 70MHz increase), OSX doesn't support Robson yet (but there may be an OS update), and a paltry 166MHz increase in bus speed.
The only things worth looking forward to are LED screens and a better GPU. And from what I have heard the LED screens are nothing to write home about.
I am just hoping for the MBP to get the user replaceable HDD like the MB. That will be worth it to me.
Hickman
The 950 is a good card. Give it enough ram and it'll do most everything you need it to do. Only the latest 3D games will be beyond your reach. Seriously. I wish people would stop knocking the integrated graphics in the MacBook. The MacBook is a very fast, very capable machine.
And people DO need the hard drive upgrade. One of the first things I did was order a 160 GB drive from Newegg.com because I needed more room. Sheesh.
you've been waiting 7 months to buy a new computer? relying on rumors and assumptions to convince yourself of the new specs of the next model. and then you're disapointed that you were wrong? Most of the Rumors didn't even put SR processors in the macbooks.
since you had 7 months.. why didn't you save up for the mbp?