0 Leak on early real world Face ID Feedback?

[Applejuiced]

Seriously? So we are gonna be going into this virtually blind? For all we know Face ID only works on Tim Cook and nobody else!

I know where you're coming from with such a new feature that is very cruicial for security and the ease of use of having to unlock your device many many times a day by using it. It hasnt been really mass tested by public before and we all dont really know how well it will play out.
I guess we'll have to wait another week and a half for actual reviews, videos and hands on at Apple stores etc...

 

[Menel]

When have they ever blown it on a major feature? Everything they've put out in the iPhone era has been delivered as promised.

Maps

 

[C DM]

Maps

At least that got us navigation, among other things.

 

[Applejuiced]

When have they ever blown it on a major feature? Everything they've put out in the iPhone era has been delivered as promised.

Apple Maps, MobileMe, signalGate with the iphone 4, bendgate and touch disease with the iPhone 6, battery issues with the iPhone 6S. U2 Gate, crackgate, slowgate,yellowgate, scratchgate, Purplehaze etc...
Android Galaxy Note 7 with blowing up batteries.
Not everything in general with electronic devices will always go perfect and as thought it should work.
So its always good to practice some caution. It will be great if all goes perfectly as planned though😉

 

[fs454]

Apple Maps, MobileMe, signalGate with the iphone 4, bendgate and touch disease with the iPhone 6, battery issues with the iPhone 6S. U2 Gate, crackgate, slowgate,yellowgate, scratchgate, Purplehaze etc...
Android Galaxy Note 7 with blowing up batteries.
Not everything in general with electronic devices will always go perfect and as thought it should work.
So its always good to practice some caution. It will be great if all goes perfectly as planned though😉

Lol, most of those are hilarious. Apple maps was never broken, in an unusable state, or showstopping in any way. It had a somewhat clumsy start but by no means was that a reason to avoid an apple device. The iPhone 4? Did you legitimately have an issue? I never used a case with mine and didn't have any issues. All smartphones at the time would lose signal if cupped a certain way in the hand. Battery issues in the 6S? The ones that cropped up years into use? The ones that were relatively minor and were good to go after a free replacement? I run IT for a couple of companies and the three cases of the bum 6S battery were all over one year old and frankly the users were happy that Apple was giving them a new battery for free. I literally have no idea what you're talking about on the rest of them mentioned.

I mean, go ahead - blow up the worry for yourself, but there isn't a world where any of what was mentioned made it a bad call to purchase an iPhone at any time.

And the Samsung thing? Call me when that happens to Apple - you can't compare across the aisle at this point as Apple has never, ever had a widespread issue as showstopping as that. The best thing about Apple is that they have a solid track record on hardware, and can generally be trusted. I'm going with "trust Apple" until they disappoint, then I'll be skeptical.

 

[pat500000]

I'm saying there's 0 independent review on FaceID?

Why do we have to 'trust' Apple? If everybody just 'trusts' Apple then why do people even make and read reviews?

Go buy one when it comes out and you can do your review.

 

[Applejuiced]

I hear you, some of them were minor things and other ones were pretty significant though.
For the i4 I got the free bumper case from Apple and had no problem after that. I was holding it right 😀
Yes, the 6S and some iphone 6 batteries would turn off the phone completely even if they had over 30-40% charge still. Not all those were a year later but still completely unacceptable issue to have.
About the rest of the "gates" you can google them.
Im not saying that Im worrying, but as with a brand new device and brand new additions put in for the first time they could be issues coming up. And to say that Apple has never had issues is far from true.

Lol, most of those are hilarious. Apple maps was never broken, in an unusable state, or showstopping in any way. It had a somewhat clumsy start but by no means was that a reason to avoid an apple device. The iPhone 4? Did you legitimately have an issue? I never used a case with mine and didn't have any issues. All smartphones at the time would lose signal if cupped a certain way in the hand. Battery issues in the 6S? The ones that cropped up years into use? The ones that were relatively minor and were good to go after a free replacement? I run IT for a couple of companies and the three cases of the bum 6S battery were all over one year old and frankly the users were happy that Apple was giving them a new battery for free. I literally have no idea what you're talking about on the rest of them mentioned.

I mean, go ahead - blow up the worry for yourself, but there isn't a world where any of what was mentioned made it a bad call to purchase an iPhone at any time.

And the Samsung thing? Call me when that happens to Apple - you can't compare across the aisle at this point as Apple has never, ever had a widespread issue as showstopping as that. The best thing about Apple is that they have a solid track record on hardware, and can generally be trusted. I'm going with "trust Apple" until they disappoint, then I'll be skeptical.

 

[mattopotamus]

Typically reviews come out on Tuesday or Wednesday the same week the phone is released. Expect reviews early next week.

 

[Gathomblipoob]

Seriously? So we are gonna be going into this virtually blind? For all we know Face ID only works on Tim Cook and nobody else!

Didn't see any of the hands-on videos, huh?


Disclaimer: This is intended as a serious reply. Thank you.

 

[TheMilko]

If your nervous about the X & FaceID, Simply don’t buy one, wait for next years model and buy the X when it’s 12 months old.
Apple have stated that it’s more secure than TouchID, which many banking institutions across the world, have brought into ApplePay.
So why would they risk jeopardising that trust or business relationship, at the end of the day Apple wouldn’t have invested in a secure payment system if it didn’t contribute to the revenues that they earned.

On another note, if there were minor issues, would it be life or death to be without a phone for a few days, whilst Apple sorted it?
When I purchased my space black stainless steel generation 1 Apple Watch with link bracelet (similar price to iPhone X) in May 2015, it kept crashing whenever I tried to mute an incoming call by covering the screen with the palm of my hand. So I contacted Apple support and within 10 mins of pressing send on the Apple support live chat app, I got a call from California, considering I live in the UK, I thought that was amazing.
They stayed in touch with me for a few days and ran diagnostics via the app on the phone, shortly after a update was released. I was then given a £50 credit to my iTunes account to thank me for my input.

If you want to be an early adopter, you have to be prepared that there may be the very very smallest chance that there just might be a minor issue.

If you don’t trust FaceID, disable it and don’t link your credit / debit card to ApplePay.

 

[Applejuiced]

If you want to be an early adopter, you have to be prepared that there may be the very very smallest chance that there just might be a minor issue.

If you want to be an early adopter then you have to be prepared to take a risk with bugs or issues. And they are not always very very smallest of a chance or completely minor.
Could be either big or small problems.

 

[TheMilko]

If you want to be an early adopter then you have to be prepared to take a risk with bugs or issues. And they are not always very very smallest of a chance or completely minor.
Could be either big or small problems.

Ok the issue might be a big one, but will it be life or death?
It’s not a though anyone can steal you face and use it for ill gotten gains.

 

[Diving Capers]

It’s not a though anyone can steal you face and use it for ill gotten gains.

Halloween is just around the corner, someone might create some lifelike masks and make a small fortune.

🙄

 

[fs454]

I hear you, some of them were minor things and other ones were pretty significant though.
For the i4 I got the free bumper case from Apple and had no problem after that. I was holding it right 😀
Yes, the 6S and some iphone 6 batteries would turn off the phone completely even if they had over 30-40% charge still. Not all those were a year later but still completely unacceptable issue to have.
About the rest of the "gates" you can google them.
Im not saying that Im worrying, but as with a brand new device and brand new additions put in for the first time they could be issues coming up. And to say that Apple has never had issues is far from true.

There has been absolutely no reason to justify hesitation based on "well, it's new so it's going to have problems, therefore I won't buy it". It's just paranoia - there will be no showstopping issues, and if there are, you bet no company will work harder than Apple to satisfy the customer.


It's insane to just assume that the phone is going to be bad, or the experience is going to suck when they've got 10 years of great launches under their belt for just this product alone. If Apple had a Note 7 fiasco, for sure. But there has been absolutely nothing of the likes or scale of it in a decade.
I've picked up every single iPhone since 2007 on launch day and to this day have had not one issue that's made me regret getting the devices. I don't and never will understand this paranoid mentality.

 

[Macalway]

For all we know Face ID only works on Tim Cook and nobody else!

You need to practice your Tim Cook smile 🙂

(on second thought, don't.....)

 

[Crzyrio]

Apple Maps, MobileMe, signalGate with the iphone 4, bendgate and touch disease with the iPhone 6, battery issues with the iPhone 6S. U2 Gate, crackgate, slowgate,yellowgate, scratchgate, Purplehaze etc...
Android Galaxy Note 7 with blowing up batteries.
Not everything in general with electronic devices will always go perfect and as thought it should work.
So its always good to practice some caution. It will be great if all goes perfectly as planned though😉

I have had every phone since the iPhone 4 up to the 6s.

I have never experience any of the problems you mentioned other than the battery issue which apple replaced without any fuss. I did not even know i was effected untill they told me.

Apple Maps, sure started bad but that's a pretty dam big to tackle.

 

[Jimmy James]

Seriously? So we are gonna be going into this virtually blind? For all we know Face ID only works on Tim Cook and nobody else!

For all we know it works perfectly.

What we know is that we don't really know.

 

[Macalway]

For all we know it works perfectly.

What we know is that we don't really know.

It's going to be pretty funny around here and the web because of this new gadget.

 

[Apple TarHeel]

This poster was trolling and hooked a lot of you guys right in the mouth ... he hasn’t posted since lol

 

[Applejuiced]

Ok the issue might be a big one, but will it be life or death?
It’s not a though anyone can steal you face and use it for ill gotten gains.

Life or death issue?
I don't think so. Even if someone unlocks your iPhone forcibly by using your finger or face that's that's not a life or death situation.
We're just talking about bugs and new device hardware issues that might come up, that's it.
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There has been absolutely no reason to justify hesitation based on "well, it's new so it's going to have problems, therefore I won't buy it". It's just paranoia - there will be no showstopping issues, and if there are, you bet no company will work harder than Apple to satisfy the customer.


It's insane to just assume that the phone is going to be bad, or the experience is going to suck when they've got 10 years of great launches under their belt for just this product alone. If Apple had a Note 7 fiasco, for sure. But there has been absolutely nothing of the likes or scale of it in a decade.
I've picked up every single iPhone since 2007 on launch day and to this day have had not one issue that's made me regret getting the devices. I don't and never will understand this paranoid mentality.

Absolutely no reason to justify hesitation and blah blah.
It's a brand new device and form factor with some options and new tech never used or tested out publicly before.
Not being paranoid, just saying there could be bugs and issues that need to be worked out.
Same reason some like to purchase the "S" models and not the initial first year release.
And judging by the past they were right for holding off sometimes that's all😉
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I have had every phone since the iPhone 4 up to the 6s.

I have never experience any of the problems you mentioned other than the battery issue which apple replaced without any fuss. I did not even know i was effected untill they told me.

Apple Maps, sure started bad but that's a pretty dam big to tackle.

Many of the things I posted are real.
Some smaller issues and other more major than others effecting some batches of iPhones and not others😉

 

[Septembersrain]

... I do wonder how long it'll take before banking and other apps update their ability to log in using FaceID.

 

[fs454]

Life or death issue?
I don't think so. Even if someone unlocks your iPhone forcibly by using your finger or face that's that's not a life or death situation.
We're just talking about bugs and new device hardware issues that might come up, that's it.
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Absolutely no reason to justify hesitation and blah blah.
It's a brand new device and form factor with some options and new tech never used or tested out publicly before.
Not being paranoid, just saying there could be bugs and issues that need to be worked out.
Same reason some like to purchase the "S" models and not the initial first year release.
And judging by the past they were right for holding off sometimes that's all😉
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Many of the things I posted are real.
Some smaller issues and other more major than others effecting some batches of iPhones and not others😉

There has been absolutely ZERO generation-killing bugs that make it worth it to go it a full year without the current phone. Doesn't make sense, other than baseless paranoia.

Cool, 1% of one generation of a device had an issue that was quickly resolved. How does that, at all, justify an entire year's worth of not having the device? It's really truly baseless. You have nothing to worry about. The phone is going to perform as advertised or your money back.

 

[lordofthereef]

I mean you can just return the device if it sucks. I feel like the risk is pretty minimal with Apple, anyway. Are their return policies different across the globe?
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... I do wonder how long it'll take before banking and other apps update their ability to log in using FaceID.

That’s a good point. Right now I use Touch ID. I guess for a while I’d have to long in manually.

 

[Applejuiced]

I'll have to disagree that it was 1% of devices effected only. Way higher percentage than that depending on the particular generation of device and issue.
And some of them where not quickly resolved, some were denied and ignored and others were quietly resolved with the next iPhone release. 😉
Believe whatever you want.
You can only get your money back within 14 days. And in sone cases the hardware issues didn't appear till passed the first 2 weeks and in some cases after the 1 year standard warranty expired.

There has been absolutely ZERO generation-killing bugs that make it worth it to go it a full year without the current phone. Doesn't make sense, other than baseless paranoia.

Cool, 1% of one generation of a device had an issue that was quickly resolved. How does that, at all, justify an entire year's worth of not having the device? It's really truly baseless. You have nothing to worry about. The phone is going to perform as advertised or your money back.

 

[C DM]

... I do wonder how long it'll take before banking and other apps update their ability to log in using FaceID.

I mean you can just return the device if it sucks. I feel like the risk is pretty minimal with Apple, anyway. Are their return policies different across the globe?
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That’s a good point. Right now I use Touch ID. I guess for a while I’d have to long in manually.

I believe that was clarified before in the sense that those apps would be calling an authentication API within iOS and that would perform the authentication and return whether it succeeded or not to the app (with the authentication being done on the device within iOS itself based on what the user has chosen to use, be it Touch ID or Face ID).