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good job Baldy. My expensive phone can't do what free phones can and has been able to for almost a decade. I'm so glad that only 14.6% (which is still in the millions and millions) isn't enough people.

With your logic, why should they even bother to add any features at all? There should be an ipod button, safari, telephone, and mail button. Why add silly things like stocks or weather?

BTW, I guarantee you that there's fewer people who actually use the youtube button or the stocks button than the number of people who would use MMS.

Most people do not have e-mail capability on their phones but almost have MMS. If you want to get information to someone with media, it's a smarter idea to have MMS support. You can even e-mail using MMS. 14.6% is a high demand area. Not even 10% probably use the weather application and it's there and it makes my life easier.

You are missing my point. I'm just trying to point out that there are actually reasons that Apple has not (yet) included MMS. To me, the two most likely are:
1. MMS is not popular enough to be a priority for the current release of the iPhone software. Maybe they will get to it eventually. Just because you make up numbers for weather or stock application use doesn't mean that they are less popular.
2. Apple believes that MMS is a crappy way send pictures and video. MMS does have interoperability issues and is extremely limited compared to email. Why support MMS if they believe something else is better suited for the task? "Just because everyone else is doing it" isn't always the best policy.

The free phones have been doing MMS for the last decade instead of email because they are crappy. MMS was developed because all these phones were too limited to support internet messaging standards. It also provided a way for the carriers to charge you on a per message basis. An (expensive) iPhone is capable of handling messaging in a better way. Why prop up an inferior standard that is more expensive?
 
You almost sound like an apologist...I am the only one out of my contacts that cannont send or recieve MMS...that sucks reguardless of how you want to reason it.

I didn't realize that you deserve an apology. :rolleyes:

But the fact that you bought an iPhone seems to say that the current features of an iPhone are more important to you than MMS. I can't imagine that it sucks too much when your contacts say "I have MMS" and you have to come back with "I have an iPhone". :D
 
I didn't realize that you deserve an apology. :rolleyes:

But the fact that you bought an iPhone seems to say that the current features of an iPhone are more important to you than MMS. I can't imagine that it sucks too much when your contacts say "I have MMS" and you have to come back with "I have an iPhone". :D

it actually kinda does suck having to say that when their phone was free and mine was 600 bucks
 
Am I the only one that sees NO difference in the camera's smoothness??

Nothing has improved as far as I can see
 
it actually kinda does suck having to say that when their phone was free and mine was 600 bucks

http://iphone.macworld.com/2007/08/sending_and_receiving_mms_on_y_1.php

"If you wanted to send an MMS from [your iPhone] to your friend on Verizon whose phone number is 123-456-7890, you'd send the photo to 1234567890@vzwpix.com

If your friend wants to send a photo message to your iPhone, then they should just send it to any email address that you check on your iPhone: bob@mac.com, for example."

A list of MMS email domains for each network is available on the page I linked to.

So it requires you to know your friends carrier, but otherwise it is pretty simple to exchange pictures with an MMS enabled phone. Hopefully, this information will make it suck less. :)
 
I dont know if anyone else is experiencing this but since the 1.1.4 update my iPhone seems to weigh slightly less and it smells different! Anyone else?

Mine smells like a cinnamon bun now, great! Thaaaanks Apple!
 
Left it updating overnight to find it saying emergency calls only.... in french!

Reboot of the iphone did the trick though. (Phew!)
 
Can I upgrade with an unlocked phone

Hello

I recently bought an iphone 1.1.3, im sure it is unlocked because im using T-Mobile UK on it and im pretty sure there is jailbreak because it has the installer app (im a newbie when it comes to apple)

Anyway, just wondering, if I upgrade, will my phone stop working - i read somewhere that if you upgrade an unlocked iPhone, you wont be able to use it anymore.

Thanks in advance
 
Did not see anyone else mention this so excuse me if this has been brought up already. After updating and my iPhone restating, my iPod icon disappeared from my home screen and iI found it when I scrolled over to the second page of icons. It is strange that it would place it on the second screen as I have room for more icons on the first screen. I rearranged my icons and put the iPod icon back in it's original position at the bottom right corner but when I restarted the phone again the iPod icon had moved to the second screen again. Anyone else have this issue?

Thanks,
Rick
 
Camera hypothesis

Perhaps the camera responsiveness goes down under certain memory conditions (maybe lots of SMS messages?) or some other transient cause.

If that were the case, then rebooting the device would make the problems appear to go away. Since this is a firmware update, it reboots the device.

Just a hypothesis. But similar things happen all the time on Macs (which kinda run the same operating system).
 
Bluetooth Audio Now?

I'm getting music (iPod) and keypad clicks through my Bluetooth headset now. I'm on the road so my BT stereo headset for tunes is at home.

Thoughts?

NYB
 
I found one.

if you double click your home button and start iTunes theirs now a time line with shuffle and repeat for your play list. I did notice one other thing which was when I click on my wifi in preference it seems to have a better range.
I can't wait to print from this beast. :-D
 
Successfully used ZiPhone 2.4. However, nothing on Installer is available!

Can NOT downgrade to 1.1.3. Now. I am bored and wish I could hack the text below the icons to be blank.
 
Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

I just wanted to post a message to let anyone still reading this thread know that my iPhone appears to be very stable after this update. There are no real noticable features added but it seems to fix some glitches that were in 1.1.3 and make the user experience smoother. Not that 1.1.3 was unusable or anything but Apple has addressed some bugs. Hope this helps.
 
Successfully used ZiPhone 2.4. However, nothing on Installer is available!

Can NOT downgrade to 1.1.3. Now. I am bored and wish I could hack the text below the icons to be blank.


Dude! Refresh man! Add all known sources and refresh again.
1.1.4 Summerboard is out there.;)

Themes don't work yet but you can remove the text under the icons.:p
 
What source is summerboard 1.1.4 on? I only seem to have summerboard and summerboard(old). I tried to install summerboard and it told me its for 1.1.3 only.
 
1.1.4 and iPhoto Launching

It doesn't do it anymore...I noticed my iphoto application stopped popping up everytime I hooked up my iphone...anyone else noticing this?
 
I did the update yesterday and noticed nothing. The camera looks the same, my open tabs all go white still, and the maps load up the same and are just as inaccurate (not that it matters cuz I never use them).

I've read through every post over the last two days and I just wanted to throw this out there for those that are confused. This is a thread about 1.1.4, not ******* flash. Get over it already eh? I'm reading to find people's opinions about the update and what has changed, not your desire for unnecessary web features. Thanks! :D
 
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