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I don't get the idiots who were complaining about the camera being too jittery. It's a monster movie that is supposed to look like it's being filmed on a handycam. No crap it's going to look jittery, what were you expecting?

Awesome movie though.
 
After this review in the Times, I doubt I'm going to see it:

http://movies.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/movies/18clov.html

Though SthrnCmfrtr's enthusiastic review makes me reconsider...

See, that's what gets me. Movie reviewers are so caught up in everything having to have a message of a certain sort that they completely disregard the effect of the film. If it's not questioning imperialism or consumerism or making sly allusions to Oedipus at Colonus, they assume it was an idiotic film. "Those idiots didn't even have the good sense to toss in a basic reference to Greek drama! I can't control my rage!"

I don't think this movie was created to be literary -- and by literary, I mean the "better-read than thou" stuffed-shirt arrogance of small writers trying to link stale chewing gum to the infinite mysteries of time and space. I believe the creators were more interested in the most fundamental aspects of human life -- fear and love. They create a situation with (basically) six people with complex relationships, with infatuation and friendship and siblinghood and self-sacrificing romantic love and so forth, and then they destroy those bonds one by one until all that is left of these relationships is a memory. Some new relationships are established over the course of the film, but they too are destroyed.

That is what growing old and dying is, really -- it's what all life is. Rob's decision to go back into the city (and the decision of others to accompany him) is to fight against something larger than him, something impossible to beat, not because of reason or duty but because of his emotions. That the others accompany him is similarly not an act of honor or duty (and certainly not self-interest or reason) but again love.

Politics and Freudianism? Who gives a **** about politics or Freudianism? Would this movie be more satisfying if a giant penis were slithering around the streets of Manhattan, or if the monster was distinctly vaginal? Hey, how about if a character was a bullying swine until the leading lady symbolically castrates him by ripping the cigar out of his mouth and putting it in the garbage disposal? Wouldn't that just be amazingly Freudian? Or if someone says "hey, I bet this monster expected that they would be greeted as liberators! Har har har!" Or if the monster grunted "Mission Accomplished!"

Because, you know, that would make this film so much more intelligent.

Critics are idiots, admittedly often with college degrees, whose chief danger is that they infect others with their disarmingly attractive idiocy.

I won't guarantee that any given person should go out and watch this movie and expect to be thrilled like I was. Hell, I'm completely baffled that some people apparently liked Lost in Translation, which I thought was extraordinarily well-acted but completely vacuous. Taste is taste, and not much else matters.

I do think that calling it a stupid film is unwarranted, and I think critiquing it for having buildings fall down in New York is the worst kind of reactionary crap. That's all I'm saying.
 
There's an "if you blink, you'll miss it" moment right at the end that answers some of the criticisms of the film (my wife's chief criticism, for instance).

Can you post it? Even if you FAFAFA it (white color hide).

I didn't hate the movie... I just didn't think it was great either. It may have been over-hyped for me though. I know sometimes if you watch a crappy movie that you've been told is horrible it's often times not so bad. Similarly if you watch an okay movie that is supposed to be super-great it can often be not so good.
 
Can you post it? Even if you FAFAFA it (white color hide).

I know sometimes if you watch a crappy movie that you've been told is horrible it's often times not so bad.

Unless the move is Fantastic Four. No amount of bad reviews can prepare you for how bad it really is. ;) Although, getting to see Chris Evans almost nude is one good thing it has going for it. :)
 
Can you post it? Even if you FAFAFA it (white color hide).

I didn't hate the movie... I just didn't think it was great either. It may have been over-hyped for me though. I know sometimes if you watch a crappy movie that you've been told is horrible it's often times not so bad. Similarly if you watch an okay movie that is supposed to be super-great it can often be not so good.

I got this from another web site. I was wondering what it was too.

Spoiler: At the very end when Rob and Beth are on the ferris wheel at Coney Island, you can see something fall out of the sky into the ocean. Presumably this is the monster.
 
I think it's a "Godzilla" type movie. Giant lizard attacks the city and kills everyone.:rolleyes:

Oooh... what about a giant robot??? Hmm hmm. *strokes chin*
 
I thought that it was REALLY good.

I like this kind of cinematography, although, if you sat in the front row, I imagine you might get a little sick.

but the people sitting behind me were the most obnoxious movie viewers I had ever experienced in my life.

Yelling at the screen "Oh ****" and "****, yo pass the Sour Patch kids", "Dude, I want a burrito"
and they kept kicking my seat
 
but the people sitting behind me were the most obnoxious movie viewers I had ever experienced in my life.

Yelling at the screen "Oh ****" and "****, yo pass the Sour Patch kids", "Dude, I want a burrito"
and they kept kicking my seat

Oh...that was me. Sorry! :eek:
 
Okay, so this big monster is overrunning New York. Why didn't they just send for Ultra-Man?

UltraMan.jpg
 
The above spoiler isn't what people presume that it is.


Spoiler: The thing that falls into the water is just a satellite, it links into some viral marketing stuff about the Tagruato corp which Rob is going to go work for, it was not the monster


JJ Abrams is known for misleading people and this is one of those times. There's a huge online puzzle going on, or at least there was, some of the sites are no longer running. It doesn't seem like anyone has put all the pieces together (which is probably a good thing lol), from 1-18-08.com, slusho.jp, tagruato.jp, youcantjustdrinksix.com, the character's myspace profiles, ect. The last 2 sites don't exist anymore, had some weird information that ties into the movie though when they did. Also some of the sites did redirect you to NOAA site about "Bloop" which you can read about here

I applaud Abrams for a movie that was very fun to watch and some great viral marketing once again.
 
I liked the movie. It is rather inconclusive and I can't be bothered to follow the viral stuff to try to piece together the puzzle. A manga is coming out which is supposed to be a prequel to the movie, involving some Japanese high schooler and probably the Tagrauto corporation.

Also, so many people in the theater waited until the credits were over to see if there was more. A staticky clip is played at the end, and if you reverse it, you clearly hear Rob's voice saying "It's still alive." Set up for a sequel of some sort, I suppose.

Part of me thinks there is no conclusive, complete story, and all the viral stuff and easter eggs in the movie are just there to keep people talking and to keep the hype up. It's good publicity. They have no reason to actually explain everything in the movie. Explaining almost nothing maintains the suspense and mystery and keeps people talking, bringing in more revenue. It's all marketing.

Still liked it though. I liked how it always kept you on the edge of your seat. I felt like throughout the entire movie, absolutely no one was talking. The most that was said was "Did you see that?" "So it's not Godzilla?" "Oh my God," or something of the sort. Everyone was paying rapt attention to what was on the screen, a large departure from people talking during the movie, drifting off to sleep, or diverting their attention to something else at various points throughout the movie.

The fact that the movie was able to keep people's attention so well makes it a hit in my book. Maybe it didn't achieve much in the way of artistic expression or plot or meaning, but it really entertained people, and isn't that the point of a film?
 
We saw it yesterday afternoon, and while I didn't feel that it quite lived up to the hype, it was a fun way to spend a couple of hours. Sort of a "Blair Witch Project" meets "Godzilla". ;)

Forgot to add: What was with the ridiculous music that they played over the closing credits? It sounded like music that you might have heard in an old-timey monster movie, which may have been what they were going for, but it seemed completely out of place. They could have run the credits without any music (IMO), or otherwise something really subdued.
 
i saw it yesterday.....and i had mixed reviews

i saw the previews and i got excited for the movie. i guess they hyped it up way to much and couldn't back it up.

throughout the whole movie i liked it.....but the ending really PISSED :mad: me off. it was way to quick and it didn't answer any of my questions. so WTF!! i guess i'll just have to wait and see.

obviously there's going to be a sequel, and I'm going to go see it just to see what happens.
 
I loved it. I want to see it again as I couldn't hold my pee anymore at the time they were with the army after you know who had you know what'd. At that point I've been holding it for a little above 14 hours. So I missed the time in between that part and them being on top of the building.

At the ending someone screamed, "Are you kidding me?" and the entire theater laughed.
 
I loved it. I want to see it again as I couldn't hold my pee anymore at the time they were with the army after you know who had you know what'd. At that point I've been holding it for a little above 14 hours. So I missed the time in between that part and them being on top of the building.
I missed them finding Beth and dis-impaling her while I was on my bathroom break, apparently just after yours.

At the ending someone screamed, "Are you kidding me?" and the entire theater laughed.
The teenaged girls sitting a few rows behind us whispered, "So did they die?" :rolleyes:
 
I missed them finding Beth and dis-impaling her while I was on my bathroom break, apparently just after yours.

The teenaged girls sitting a few rows behind us whispered, "So did they die?" :rolleyes:

I had some kid (probably 15 or 16) in front of us with his Mother, who just couldn't follow the plot for his life :). Half way through when they were screaming for Jason, he asked his mother "Who's Jason?." Then at the end when the bridge collapsed, he asked "So what happened to all the people?" I felt like yelling out "They all died you idiot!".(highlight to read) :rolleyes:

All in all I thought it was a good movie, would have liked to have seen them blowing up Manhattan at the end, but I guess that would have been kinda hard to film from under a bridge in Central Park.
 
I think the critics who are making references to 9/11 are just as outraged by how 1998's Godzilla preyed on our pre-9/11 insecurities. Shame on you, Hollywood. Shame!
 
Being west coast, 9/11 had no effect on me, so I really enjoyed that part of the movie (my favorite part in fact). Annoying theater rant: some kids in the back starting screeching out an imitation of the opera music during the credits. :mad:
 
The viral marketing definitely adds to the story of the movie.

I'll post it here in white as to not spoil it for anyone:

Rob gets a job in Japan working for Slusho Drink
Slusho mines their secret ingredient from a trench in the bottom of the ocean
Taraguto is a Japanese company, and a piece of their satellite breaks off (which is seen in the last scene of the movie)

So Taraguto teams with Slusho to use their ocean drilling and mining to retrieve the satellite, in which they most likely wake up the monster.


That's basically all taken using the viral information. Most people are agreeing with that theory right now.
 
Oh...that was me. Sorry! :eek:

well one of them did have an iphone that they were texting on the whole time.....

On a sidenote: I overheard in their conversation that they had snuck into the movie, which pissed me off beyond belief. If you are going to ruin the movie for other moviegoers, at least pay for your ticket

JC7
 
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