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Ok it is official. New update 10.12.2 fixed my battery I am up back to 9-10 hrs of regular use. Before update idle power consumption was not going lower than 6W, after 10.12.2 it is now < 4W (60% brightness, ALS on).

With ~50Wh battery, it translates easily way over 10 hrs (if you are not doing much apart from safari). To get 10 hrs MacBook must average 5W (second attachment) - I get 5.3 Watts Safari browsing, mail, Fantastical2, Bear, Snappy and more apps in background.

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That's good news. Wonder what they did to get the wattage so low (i.e., is anyone aware of any compromises they made via software tweaks to get this working). I guess this will mean even longer run-times on the non-touch bar.
 
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this is what I'm getting now... Regular browsing and mail, bluetooth, dropbox etc. (all default no battery life tweaks employed). Just yesterday I was getting estimates max 5-6 hrs with exact same usage.View attachment 677922

What battery app is that ?

[Edit] Nevermind, its battery heath - I didn't know there was a version 2, was still on version 1
 
Latest "live" update. Sitting all the time with MacBook since last update (thread answer #3) - doing now regular stuff: 8:45 remaining, time on battery 1 h.

I will definitely NOT return this baby now!



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Same here. Better battery life with higher brightness.

Before the update was getting 7-9 hours with 50-60% brightness. Now getting +10h with 70-75% brightness with the same workload (wifi and Bluetooth on of course).
 
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Ok It is 16:20. Computer was on almost all the time (time on battery 4.5 h). Still 60% left.
Battery life was ridiculous short before update now it is complete opposite...It seems that with my usage it will do +10 hrs - which is better than 2015 MacBook (still with me as I was considering skipping this generation but now he has to go).

This good news will disturb forum trolls so badly - no negative news to spread... Even this thread is not so popular. Maybe if I should have name it: "Latest update cut my battery life to 1 hour"

Happy camper now, as my only doubt has been removed.
 
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Ok It is 16:20. Computer was on almost all the time (time on battery 4.5 h). Still 60% left.
Battery life was ridiculous short before update now it is complete opposite...It seems that with my usage it will do +10 hrs - which is better than 2015 MacBook (still with me as I was considering skipping this generation but now he has to go).

This good news will disturb forum trolls so badly - no negative news to spread... Even this thread is not so popular. Maybe if I should have name it: "Latest update cut my battery life to 1 hour"

Happy camper now, as my only doubt has been removed.

that must feel great, if battery life were the only thing holding you back and its now been resolved

all I can recommend is being careful: do a clone or timemachine of 10.12.2 working well as is, in case you have further software QC mishaps or something down the road. better safe than sorry,
 
Still soon to tell if my battery life improoved but so far it seems better. Used to have 7 hours on a charge, so far it looks like I can get away with 8. Will update in a week after some more use.
 
is anyone seeing non touchbar battery improvements?


I couldn't agree more. Ghostery not only improves the surfing experience (tremendously) it slows down the battery drain noticeably.
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Ok it is official. New update 10.12.2 fixed my battery I am up back to 9-10 hrs of regular use. Before update idle power consumption was not going lower than 6W, after 10.12.2 it is now < 4W (60% brightness, ALS on).

With ~50Wh battery, it translates easily way over 10 hrs (if you are not doing much apart from safari). To get 10 hrs MacBook must average 5W (second attachment) - I get 5.3 Watts Safari browsing, mail, Fantastical2, Bear, Snappy and more apps in background.

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Well thats good news..I am waiting for Apple to push this update out. Any ideas on when they are planning to pull from Beta? Or has it been already?
 
He's using an app..Coconut battery.

I'm using it as well and nothing shows up on my touch bar unless I'm missing something
[doublepost=1481730734][/doublepost]I dont remember what my discharge was before the update but currently just browsing with safari and 60% brightness I'm between 8.3-9.6

fully loaded 15"
 
I'm using it as well and nothing shows up on my touch bar unless I'm missing something
the touch bar info comes from battery health 2, not coconut. You have to start it and leave it showing as the focused app. As soon as you use another app it disappears off the touch bar, of course.
 
Same in my case - real usage 10:30h 13"tb 16/512. Was getting between 8-9 before.

What about iTunes playback? Have you tried if is better now. (was around 8h before update).
 
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Chiming in here to say that 10.12.2 also seems to have improved my battery life - and mine was decent to begin with. I haven't done any official testing yet but the battery percentage seems to be declining at a much slower rate than it was before the update.
 
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is anyone seeing non touchbar battery improvements?
This doesn't necessarily mean BASE non-TB improvements. One of the problems with the touchbar model was that it was using CPU more than necessary, resulting in higher watts. There's no reason Safari needs to run at max CPU speeds. The BASE non-TB may not have that issue since it runs at lower watts already. The upgraded CPU's could benefit, but I wouldn't be surprised if the BASE keeps it's already good battery life vs. getting more.
 
This doesn't necessarily mean BASE non-TB improvements. One of the problems with the touchbar model was that it was using CPU more than necessary, resulting in higher watts. There's no reason Safari needs to run at max CPU speeds. The BASE non-TB may not have that issue since it runs at lower watts already. The upgraded CPU's could benefit, but I wouldn't be surprised if the BASE keeps it's already good battery life vs. getting more.

That's what I figured, still I'd be curious if anyone who made the leap and has had a day or two to give it the run down has experienced any difference

really happy with nTB as is,
 
I have a MBPr TB 15" and can also confirm that the latest update and sufficiently restored battery life, as well as removed laggy UI from majority of the OS. I'm consistently getting 9-10 hours out of the laptop now.

I wonder what they changed under the covers... the latest beta definitely did not exude the same behavior.
 
Okay so in front of me I have a NTB MacBook Pro and a TB MacBook Pro. I got the NTB yesterday and both are running 10.12.2. Ive been running Netflix streaming tests. Same volume, same brightness (max) and the results are surprising. The NTB is barely ahead of the TB. Difference of 2%. But I figured Netflix isn't the best battery tester so I went to peacekeeper online test. Amazingly, the lead is by the NTB but only by 1%. Wondering if it's because the laptop is new so it hasn't indexed completely, but given the fact I updated both of them just yesterday, they'd both be indexing today.
 
Only getting 5h10 min on my macbook pro 15" after update...

EDIT: few minutes later: 4h25 when only surfing the web
 
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