10.14.1 no longer allows installs from USB flash, requires Internet

[getrealbro]

Since people are missing my answer, here is how to get the full installer:...

I really appreciate Dos Dude's assistance and your persistent suggestion that I/we use a 3rd party solution.

But I already have a full installer for 10.14.1 and do not need dosdude's help. What I need now is for macOS Mojave to allow me to download the full installer on all of my compatible Macs, and I won't "upgrade" our Macs to Mojave until it does.

GetRealBro

 

[Heat_Fan89]

^^^^After downloading, did you run the installer?



I have never had an issue downloading an OS over the years, and saving it to another device before installation. It always downloads to the Applications Folder in my experience.

Lou

As I mentioned before, there IS NO installer. It deletes itself automatically, it goes poof after my Mini downloads the 6GB installer.

 

[getrealbro]

I was a bit surprised, but just Application Monitor to find the files the mini-installer had open and found the folder 'macOS Install Data' it was downloading the installer into at the root level of the harddrive and copied that before letting the installer run.
Just seems to be a different place than the usual Application folder
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/macOS Install Data

The full installer may have been there during the download last night. But despite not doing an install/update, it isn't there now.

GetRealBro

 

[Camicia]

Re: http://dosdude1.com/mojave/
Downloading the OS with a closed source tool made by a anonymous person is not my favorite.

 

[Mr_Brightside_@]

I really appreciate Dos Dude's assistance and your persistent suggestion that I/we use a 3rd party solution.

But I already have a full installer for 10.14.1 and do not need dosdude's help. What I need now is for macOS Mojave to allow me to download the full installer on all of my compatible Macs, and I won't "upgrade" our Macs to Mojave until it does.

GetRealBro

Why download the same file repeatedly when you could boot off the installer?

 

[getrealbro]

Why download the same file repeatedly when you could boot off the installer?

That’s the whole point. I want to be able to download the full installer on ANY of my Macs and build an USB stick installer for the others without using 3rd party software.

As it stands today, I can only download the full installer on 1 of our Macs. And I only found that out by experimentation. So I'm OK this time. But maybe not in the future. Hence my attempt to figure out why some Macs seem to download the full 10.14.1 installer as expected and others not.

GetRealBro

 

[Mr_Brightside_@]

That’s the whole point. I want to be able to download the full installer on ANY of my Macs and build an USB stick installer for the others without using 3rd party software.

As it stands today, I can only download the full installer on 1 of our Macs. And I only found that out by experimentation. So I'm OK this time. But maybe not in the future. Hence my attempt to figure out why some Macs seem to download the full 10.14.1 installer as expected and others not.

GetRealBro

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/299731/macos-high-sierra-media-installer

 

[Camicia]

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/299731/macos-high-sierra-media-installer

Thanks.... Annoying but I think it will work.

Apparently Apple wants to know where you run you installer. It looks like that the stub collect a bunch of info and send them the to mothership before installing.

 

[DeltaMac]

That’s the whole point. I want to be able to download the full installer on ANY of my Macs and build an USB stick installer for the others without using 3rd party software.

As it stands today, I can only download the full installer on 1 of our Macs. And I only found that out by experimentation. So I'm OK this time. But maybe not in the future. Hence my attempt to figure out why some Macs seem to download the full 10.14.1 installer as expected and others not.

GetRealBro

If you get the full install, then you have it. No need download the full install on ALL of your other Macs, the full download is the same.
Well, there is a difference if you need the full install for one of the later Macs with the T2 chip. That full install is a different build.

Once you have the full install for Mojave, don't install it. Make a USB bootable from THAT, then copy the original installer to another storage drive, so you can use it to make another bootable installer, if you need it.

Search for the Python script, which downloads the macOS installer. THAT will always download the full installer, and is the method that I use now.

 

[Camicia]

Interesting that you says that the install for Mac with the T2 chip is different.

 #    ProductID    Version    Build   Post Date  Title
 1    041-08708      10.14   18A391  2018-09-24  macOS Mojave
 2    091-93471    10.14.1    18B75  2018-10-30  macOS Mojave
 3    091-94326    10.13.6    17G65  2018-07-11  macOS High Sierra
 4    091-95774    10.13.6  17G2208  2018-07-30  macOS High Sierra

Maybe that was true for High Sierra. I see only one for each version for Mojave.

Thank you for the tip!

 

[DeltaMac]

Interesting that you says that the install for Mac with the T2 chip is different.

 #    ProductID    Version    Build   Post Date  Title
 1    041-08708      10.14   18A391  2018-09-24  macOS Mojave
 2    091-93471    10.14.1    18B75  2018-10-30  macOS Mojave
 3    091-94326    10.13.6    17G65  2018-07-11  macOS High Sierra
 4    091-95774    10.13.6  17G2208  2018-07-30  macOS High Sierra

Maybe that was true for High Sierra. I see only one for each version for Mojave.

Thank you for the tip!

Hmm...
I have one more line:

 #    ProductID    Version    Build   Post Date  Title
 1    041-08708      10.14   18A391  2018-09-24  macOS Mojave
 2    091-93471    10.14.1    18B75  2018-10-30  macOS Mojave
 3    091-94326    10.13.6    17G65  2018-07-11  macOS High Sierra
 4    091-95774    10.13.6  17G2208  2018-07-30  macOS High Sierra
 5    041-18197    10.14.1  18B2107  2018-10-30  macOS Mojave

So, there's two versions of 10.13.6, and two of 10.14.1
I'm pretty sure that the High Sierra 17G2208, and Mojave 18B2107 are both for Macs with T2 chips.

 

[mpainesyd]

Having 2 Macs helps... I installed 10.14 on one of them soon after Mojave was released to check that my vital "legacy" software continued to work (it does but Little Snitch caused problems even after an update so I uninstalled it).
Once 10.14.1 was released I started the install process on the other Mac but, being cautious, I quit once the large file had downLoaded to the Applications folder. I copied this to a network server and then ran it on the first Mac. It successfully updated from 10.14 to 10.14.1 and my legacy software still works so I will get around to updating all my Macs to Mojave via the large file on my network server.
Going by this thread it seems fortunate that, by chance, I did not try updating to 10.14.1 via the first Mac as I might not have ended up with the full installer.

Update: Grrr! My mistake - the "update" that I downloaded was 10.14.0.22 not 10.14.1. I have selected Software Update on the Macbook running that version and have paused the restart to see if the install file is visible somewhere. It does not seem to be and so I am assuming the rest of the download will commence when I continue the update, as others have found.

So now I only have one Mac running High Sierra. I will do some more checking of app compatibility for the Macs running Mojave and then try my method described above of saving a copy of the full installation file.

Update 2 - I could not find an Install Mojave.app when I downloaded the latest Mojave to the last Mac on High Sierra. 10.14.1 seems to have totally changed the installation method and there is no pause which enables you to see downloaded files.
In addition the install has broken my App Store app, which now crashes. Not sure how I am going to fix this (I sent the crash report to Apple but am not holding my breath).

Update 3 - The update to 10.14.1 has fixed my App Store problem.

 

[getrealbro]

If you get the full install, then you have it. No need download the full install on ALL of your other Macs, the full download is the same....

I GET IT! I’ve been updating multiple Macs from one full installer/updater for decades. Until recently I could download that full installer/updater using any of our Macs. That has obviously changed. Now I have to try each Mac to hopefully find one that will download the full installer/updater. Or I need to use a python script or 3rd party app. I’m just trying to find out if this is a glitch or the way macOS installs/updates are going to be from now on.

Search for the Python script, which downloads the macOS installer.

Thanks for the tip to find the open source python script.

GetRealBro