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Originally posted by bousozoku

For me, nothing seems to be broken so it's one more positive update.

hehe, yeah. i look for performance increases, however slight. i don't care about most of the bug fixes--they usually don't help any problems i am specifically having. i just like having the latest and greatest :)
 
Hm, I just launched iTunes for the first time after updating and the first thing I noticed was it came up in one bounce! If I remember correctly, it used to take 3 or 4 bounces for me before the update. Nice!
 
Originally posted by Hemingray
Hm, I just launched iTunes for the first time after updating and the first thing I noticed was it came up in one bounce! If I remember correctly, it used to take 3 or 4 bounces for me before the update. Nice!

wow! not quite 1 over here, but about 2 (mine don't bounce, but the arrow pulsates). much better! and that's like my most used program.
 
Originally posted by Hemingray
Hm, I just launched iTunes for the first time after updating and the first thing I noticed was it came up in one bounce! If I remember correctly, it used to take 3 or 4 bounces for me before the update. Nice!

You sure it was on the first launch? If it was... damn.. I'm getting three on a dual 867. Bof.

I do not wanna update. If it ain't broke, don't fix it and break more stuff.

Aw hell I wanna update. *tries to restrain self*
 
newer build since MWSF?

Does anyone know if the build of this release of OS 10.2.4 is newer than that of the MWSF hardware?

[edited due to beer intake]
 
I'm pretty sure this is new, now there are actual ATI 9000 drivers included... before it was just running the previous 8500 drivers for the 9000 card. I'll have to see if I notice any improvements in 3d performance...
 
Re: Re: THE BIGGEST IMPROVEMENT!!!

Originally posted by Hemingray


Wow, not only that, this is apparently the 20th anniversary of the MacOS. :cool:

Maybe in terms of development, but in terms of release, the only GUI out on the market 20 years ago was LISA. Next year would the 20th anniversay of the release of the first macinotosh (which of course was the beginning of mac OS, LISA used a different operating system)
 
Originally posted by vniow
Two bounces for me, 300Mhz blueberry iBook with 320MB RAM.

sounds like springcansing's gonna whip out some proc envy :):eek: lol.

it's funny how the loads don't get THAT much better as the systems get faster. he could own your computer (and probably mine) on something like PS performance or iTunes visualization, but the playing field doesn't seem so varied on load times. that surprises me, as you probably have a 4200 rpm drive like me, and springcansing prolly has a 7200 on his PM.
 
Originally posted by Performfreak
I'm pretty sure this is new, now there are actual ATI 9000 drivers included... before it was just running the previous 8500 drivers for the 9000 card. I'll have to see if I notice any improvements in 3d performance...

my Radeon M9000 is still using 8500 drivers :(
 
Sherlock Weather Channel

Can anyone tell me if the Sherlock Weather Channel works for them? I normally use Watson and Meteo, but thought I'd test the Weather Channel in Sherlock just for fun to see how it compared. It says it's loading, but nothing ever displays.:(
 
Originally posted by Choppaface
grrrr.. why does apple always turn on auto-updating after every update? It's my internet connection, not theirs >_<

looks like the bug in the photoshop file browser has been fixed though (it seems a bit faster too)

That has always been an issue with Apple updates. Pt was even worse in the past Even in the days of Mac OS 7.5 -> 7.5.3 all the way thru OS 8 and 9 and their updates. You had to go thru every setting you ever made in the OS because Apple set them back to default.

Very inconvenient.
 
Re: Sherlock Weather Channel

Originally posted by Dave Marsh
Can anyone tell me if the Sherlock Weather Channel works for them? I normally use Watson and Meteo, but thought I'd test the Weather Channel in Sherlock just for fun to see how it compared. It says it's loading, but nothing ever displays.:(

Weather channel? Are you sure this isn't a third party add on to sherlock. Mine doesn't have it and never has.

I suspect you are using this.
 
iCal and Address book don't quit when closed.

Yippee! iCal and Address book no longer quit when you close their windows. Correct me if I'm wrong, but before they used to quit when you closed their windows.

That drove me nuts. Absentmidedly closing instead of hiding either app would mean I'd have to restart them. Very annoying for what are probably my two most switched apps.

iPhoto and the Calculator still quit upon closing though... I can live with that.
 
I installed the 10.2.4 update, and it seems to be going fine...just one odd thing I noticed, though. I have my desktop set to show info on the icons (my hard drives), so it shows the total space and remaining space of my two partitions. However, since I installed 10.2.4 earlier today, my OS X partition only shows the total size, and not the remaining space. My other partition still shows both pieces of info fine. I've relaunched the Finder, and have only restarted once (immediately after installation). Has anyone else had this problem? I turned "Show item info" off and then on again in the View Options for the Desktop, but still it doesn't show my OS X partition's remaining space. Hmm :confused: .
 
Originally posted by FredAkbar
I installed the 10.2.4 update, and it seems to be going fine...just one odd thing I noticed, though. I have my desktop set to show info on the icons (my hard drives), so it shows the total space and remaining space of my two partitions. However, since I installed 10.2.4 earlier today, my OS X partition only shows the total size, and not the remaining space. My other partition still shows both pieces of info fine. I've relaunched the Finder, and have only restarted once (immediately after installation). Has anyone else had this problem? I turned "Show item info" off and then on again in the View Options for the Desktop, but still it doesn't show my OS X partition's remaining space. Hmm :confused: .

for the sake of trying, you might open disk utility and repair permissions and see what happens. i just had some funky errors with my finder dock icon that "repair permissions" fixed... it's kind of the "restart" of the OS X world (for you PC users out there). if something totally inexplicable is occurring, and nothing logical works, always try repair permissions. heh. :)
 
Very Snappy

I installed 10.2.4 on my Ti Book this evening and have noticed an overall speed improvement, its worked out pretty well.

In particular, Civ III ran better than ever, the graphics card must be getting better support now. For quite some time now certain menus were very slow and unresponsive, but this has done the trick!

Thanks apple...and could they now just release the new ipods!!!!!!
 
Thanks Shadowfax, I repaired permissions and now it's working fine--I didn't even have to restart. I'll restart when I go to bed anyway, though, since it seems to be going a bit slow after the permissions repair.

--Fred
 
Originally posted by FredAkbar
Thanks Shadowfax, I repaired permissions and now it's working fine--I didn't even have to restart. I'll restart when I go to bed anyway, though, since it seems to be going a bit slow after the permissions repair.

--Fred

That's awesome, though i wouldn't expect that it would slow you down after the repair. who knows, though? restarting never hurt anybody, unless you are going for record uptime;).
 
Re: Very Snappy

Originally posted by Brain
I installed 10.2.4 on my Ti Book this evening and have noticed an overall speed improvement, its worked out pretty well.

In particular, Civ III ran better than ever, the graphics card must be getting better support now. For quite some time now certain menus were very slow and unresponsive, but this has done the trick!

Thanks apple...and could they now just release the new ipods!!!!!!

seems like i read somee CivIII specific fixes on the list of things fixed....

from the apple 10.2.4 KB article:
# Improves compatibility with Firaxis Civilization III when the application's "Quartz text rendering" option is enabled.


good for you!
 
So does this give new drivers for ATI9000 cards in the MDD power macs or not? How do I find out (dumb user alert!)...

Perhaps this will fix the lack of res/refresh rate options with 9000 cards using VGA CRT monitors. Here's hoping!
 
Originally posted by hibitdatman
So does this give new drivers for ATI9000 cards in the MDD power macs or not? How do I find out (dumb user alert!)...

Perhaps this will fix the lack of res/refresh rate options with 9000 cards using VGA CRT monitors. Here's hoping!


hey i just thought i'd post this for any UNIX junkies out here. i know i've always gotten a wierd satisfaction watching my linux boxes boot in a pure text fashion. now i have the same on my mac.

sudo nvram boot-args="-v"

that will do it for you and now your mac will boot with the cool quasiretrofuturistic textmode.

sudo nvram boot-args=""

turns it back off.

edesignuk posted this (he was quoting someone else here. )
If you set boot-args to "-v", you will get a verbose startup, which will tell you everything you ever wanted to know about what goes on in the startup.... from setting up your swap file to mounting the drive to your video card kernel extension... so set this up, reboot, and watch... if you see "Radeon 8500=using AGP" or something like that, you're out of luck :(. if you see something else, well, chances are...

there is an easier way to do this, but i don't know what it is. don't forget to set the boot-args back to "" unless you like the verbose start (i do ;)).
 
I'm running a G3-333 upgraded to G4-500 (yup... bottom of the barrel) and I have to tell you (been this way since 10.2.2 or so) I am loving this(OSX). I think we are very close to the OS9 experience... the speed is almost there and the "no crashing" thing is VERY real.
cheers people... hope you love it like me.
 
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