10.5.3 198mb v. 420mb? Why?

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  1. theblueone macrumors member

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    On my MBP specced as in my signature, the update was 198mb. This seems to be the minority based on other 10.5.3 threads, as others have said their downloads were 420mb. So far, there doesn't seem to be any clear pattern in download sizes based on the specs people have given. What could be the factor that makes these downloads so different in their sizes?

    Here's the first hypothesis I'll throw out. Feel free to falsify/refute with evidence:

    I'm using Time Machine with a Time Capsule. There are a few fixes noted under the TM/TC section of Apple's notes. Could part of 10.5.3 have been included on a previous TM/TC update? If so, it would make sense that it wouldn't update that part twice, right?

    If you're going to reply to this thread, tell us as much about your specs as possible (as well as how big your download was, of course), so we can try to figure out why these download sizes are so different.

    Feel free to add your own hypotheses as you see patterns in peoples' specs, too.
     
  2. Dimwhit macrumors 68000

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    I'm curious, too. I assumed the larger file was a combo update, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Mine is 198MB. I have a MBP that was fully up to date (10.5.2, all the security updates and everything else).
     
  3. hwojtek macrumors 65816

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    My C2D Mac Mini and PB G4 both indicated 198 MB download.
     
  4. Fuzzbear macrumors regular

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    A buddy of mine and I both have 2.4ghz MBP's mine is the newer Penryn, his in the older SR his update was 198mb mine was 420 we both use Time Machine with Time Capsule's
     
  5. citron230 macrumors 6502a

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    10.5.3 update was 420MB for both my iMac and Black MacBook
     
  6. theblueone thread starter macrumors member

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    Mine's also a SR with 198mb. I've seen others with the 198 with older and newer machines than SR, so it's not unique to that style of processor. Also, this shows that there's no real "turning point" in processor series that would necessitate the 198 mb download.

    Also, there goes my TM/TC hypothesis.
     
  7. gnasher729 macrumors P6

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    Just to make it more complicated, mine was 190MB for my iMac and 420MB for the MacBook. And both had the latest previous upgrade.
     
  8. SkyBell macrumors 604

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    420 MB on my iBook G4. I really wish I had the 198 MB update....:(
     
  9. me_94501 macrumors 65816

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  10. alphaod macrumors Core

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    420MB update here on a Early 2007 MBP.

    Doesn't matter really. Only 4 minute download... :D

    Also 420MB update on father's MBA.

    All computers where up to date before 5.3
     
  11. Chundles macrumors G4

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    I'm downloading the combo update anyway, keep it on my external drive so I don't have to download it ever again. 536MB - freaking huge.
     
  12. oli2140 macrumors 6502

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    HAHA, 2 minutes for me!


    (Yes, it was the 198mb update :()

    I have an Aluminium 2.4Ghz iMac and don't use Time Machine (Although I will be soon)
     
  13. Snide macrumors 6502a

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    2 Ghz iMac G5 (rev b) - 420 MB

    2 Ghz Macbook Core 2 Duo - 420 MB
     
  14. eluk macrumors 6502a

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    If I went through software update:
    Mac Pro 420MB
    MBP 198MB
     
  15. paduck macrumors 6502

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    2GHz G5 iMac - 198MB. No theories here, just a data point....
     
  16. mojohanna macrumors 6502a

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    Dualie in my sig was only 198MB. I was thinking the differences might be language support, but then I thought the difference was too large for that.
     
  17. portent macrumors 6502a

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    Mac OS X: Software update sizes can vary
     
  18. pilotError macrumors 68020

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    Same here, 190MB for the iMac and 420MB for the Macbook Air.
     
  19. mckyvlle macrumors 6502a

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    It's 420MB for my Merom Santa Rosa MacBook, which is has all the 10.5.2 updates. Getting the combo installer now!
     
  20. mward333 macrumors 6502a

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    Mac Pro 8-core 3.0 GHz (April 2007) -- 198 MB
    iMac dual core 2.8 GHz (August 2007) -- 198 MB
    iBook G4 1.42 GHz (July 2005) -- 198 MB

    None of mine were 420 MB. I would love to know why some machines have the much larger download. Please keep us posted.
     
  21. scaredpoet macrumors 604

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    VERY strange.

    198MB for my Mac pros, The MBP 2.33GHz, the dual-G4, and MacBook 2.4GHz, and one of my Mac minis.

    However, ANOTHER Mac mini of an identical configuration, which I *thought* had the exact same software and updates as my first mini, ended up with the 420MB download. :confused:

    All of the updates were uneventful though.
     
  22. daneoni macrumors G4

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    Ditto and no Time Machine/Capsule for me. Maybe X11 is the culprit?
     
  23. mckyvlle macrumors 6502a

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    Very interesting!

    I don't run Time Machine/Capsule either. But I do run X11, specifically the 'enhanced' X11 from XQuartz.
     
  24. SFStateStudent macrumors 604

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    BlackBook 2.4 Penryn = 420MB Mac Pro 3.0 = 198MB :eek:
     
  25. Matthew Yohe macrumors 68020

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    How about someone who has a machine with a 190MB and 420MB update and open up Console. and compare the /var/log/install.log

    Then tell us what's different.
     

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