10.5-Inch iPad Pro 3D Renderings Include Three Microphones and Thinner 7mm Side Bezels

[agsystems]

Wouldn't the 10.5 inch just replace the 9.7 inch Pro? I think they will just discontinue the 9.7 inch and sell it for $499

that's logical - but Apple's "precious" margins will suffer at a time they are fighting to keep iPad revenue up

If you are looking at the current lineup, iPads sales are suffering because a) they last a long time, b) they cost too much and c) there hasn't been compelling software that has required anyone to upgrade

 

[HelpfulGuy]

that's logical - but Apple's "precious" margins will suffer at a time they are fighting to keep iPad revenue up

If you are looking at the current lineup, iPads sales are suffering because a) they last a long time, b) they cost too much and c) there hasn't been compelling software that has required anyone to upgrade

I think the $329 iPad shows that Apple doesnt care much about iPad margins. They want sales at this point to increase the install base.



I mean, they're gonna release a $1000 iPhone later this year so I doubt they're concerned if iPad margins fall

 

[pat500000]

When did kui guy ever do percentage in these rumors?

 

[agsystems]

I think the $329 iPad shows that Apple doesnt care much about iPad margins. They want sales at this point to increase the install base.

I mean, they're gonna release a $1000 iPhone later this year so I doubt they're concerned if iPad margins fall

I think they smartly balance this out but keeping the Ipad mini at $399 running a 3-year-old hardware

 

[44267547]

They should seriously include the Apple Pencil with all iPad Pros. Whats the real difference between the Pros and the regular unless you're willing to pay another $100 for the pencil??

But then you're not taking into consideration would it cost Apple to manufacture the Apple Pencil and then you want them to bundle it? Not to mention, even if they were to bundle the Apple Pencil with iPad, then you're looking at a fluctuate of the price. So either way, the consumer pays for it. You should give the consumer the option of wanting the Pencil, versus including it, which may or may not be a benefit.

 

[shanson27]

looks boring like the last one

 

[GoodWheaties]

Ha. More sharp edges. Sure, they dig into your fingers painfully when holding the device for longer than a few minutes at a time, but it gives the buyer the sense of sexy sexy thinness when they see it on display. It'll look great in adverts and help sell it. And that's what really matters.

Personally I wish they would use the iPad design on iPhones. Give me something to grip! Maybe I just have tough hands but I sure wouldn't call the edges sharp.

 

[3568378]

As good as this looks, as cool as it is to use an iPad, I still prefer my 2016 rMB.

It was quasi cool to use an iPad when the iPad 2 came out...since then the cool factor has continuously declined to the point where the toy is now absurd. As I've stated in the past, the only people I see using iPads anymore are millennials out of college starting brand new jobs (pre-reality check) and Disney members who survey me at the gate or have to come over and once again fix the fingerprint issues with my kids on the stupid magic band system they dropped $2 billion on instead of fixing aging Epcot and other WDW obsolescence

 

[Lyoha]

I don't see a use case for an iPad anymore. I can get a laptop's functionality in a device nearly the same size.

I can see plenty. The iPad Pro with Apple Pencil is what I'd been wishing for ever since the first generation iPad. I use my iPad Pro almost exclusively for art. I think that's one use case that justifies its existence. Perhaps that doesn't matter to you personally, but there are other people who do different things.

 

[macTW]

Does anybody know of the home button will be a *click* home button or a *vibrate* home "button" or if a rumor has addressed this?

 

[DNichter]

Does anybody know of the home button will be a *click* home button or a *vibrate* home "button" or if a rumor has addressed this?

There hasn't been much info in regards to this, but I read somewhere that they expect it to have the same solid state home button as the iPhone 7.

 

[lip008]

I don't see a use case for an iPad anymore. I can get a laptop's functionality in a device nearly the same size.

Ah.....no. I tried the best....Samsung's TabS Pro. It's like a Surface Pro or the larger iPad. To hold as a reader...clumsy. My 11.6'' Yoga 700 is a sleek laptop but a clumsy tablet. I went back to my Air 2 after using the larger iPad for a week and I would only use the Yoga 700 for streaming local content in tent mode. You may not need an iPad but it's the perfect device for someone using an SE or another small phone.

 

[44267547]

Does anybody know of the home button will be a *click* home button or a *vibrate* home "button" or if a rumor has addressed this?

There have been some talk of the haptic home button being used on the iPad. I think one of the main purposes for the reason we saw it on the iPhone first, was also to assist in increasing the water resistance.

As much as I didn't like the Haptic home button at first, it really has become one of the smaller features that I appreciated with the Feedback and a much shorter press, overall seems quicker to multitask with the iPhone. I would like to see this implemented into the newer iPad.

 

[Eggtastic]

It's not one or the other. You can actually use both for different things.

I agree, however I take a minimalist approach to this. I only own a 2016 rMB and an iPhone 6+. The iPhone 6+ is my ultra-portable and my rMB is my main computer (uses are light enough for both to suffice for me).

 

[nordique]

Nice. 10.5" will be a nice sweet spot.

Looking forward to slimmer bezels and a hopefully an improved pencil!

 

[MyopicPaideia]

I understand the issue of size but you said you wanted a thinner iPad. I think in the future we'll see that in order for the 9.7" to take over the space of the mini.
I feel the same way for the iPhone, I think a 4.7" iPhone with no bezels would be great for SE and 7 users.
The 10.5" screen makes more sense from an iPad pro perspective as the width is the same as the iPad mini screen height, as is the resolution - resulting in 326ppi.

Are you confident of a 2736x2048 resolution on this 10.5" Pro? I certainly am hoping for it, it's actually a deal breaker type issue for me, but there have been mixed signals here. Hopefully those beta 3208x3208 parallax wallpapers are a hint that this will be the resolution.

I agree with everyone here that the design we are actually getting is disappointingly iterative, and the size of the device as a whole is disappointing relative to the screen size as well, but on the other hand...

We've all been singing the "the hardware isn't the problem" song since the 12.9" Pro came out two years ago. So if we're getting an iterative hardware design, hopefully we are going to get more than an iterative OS update. I just can't get myself to believe it, though, unfortunately. I think we are setting ourselves up for disappointment if we go into WWDC expecting some kind of hallelujah moment with iOS for iPad.
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And replace them with what exactly??? The rounded edges of the iPhone 6/7???? So it can just SLIDE out of your hands?

Because the chamfered edges help in this regard in any way? They've got a point though, don't they? It's been 5 years since the iPad got a chassis overhaul. It should have been time with the Pro models releasing together. Rounded edges and the same display meeting frame design as the iPhone would be wonderful to hold and use.

Slipperiness doesn't come into it.

 

[jonnyb098]

Are you confident of a 2736x2048 resolution on this 10.5" Pro? I certainly am hoping for it, it's actually a deal breaker type issue for me, but there have been mixed signals here. Hopefully those beta 3208x3208 parallax wallpapers are a hint that this will be the resolution.

I agree with everyone here that the design we are actually getting is disappointingly iterative, and the size of the device as a whole is disappointing relative to the screen size as well, but on the other hand...

We've all been singing the "the hardware isn't the problem" song since the 12.9" Pro came out two years ago. So if we're getting an iterative hardware design, hopefully we are going to get more than an iterative OS update. I just can't get myself to believe it, though, unfortunately. I think we are setting ourselves up for disappointment if we go into WWDC expecting some kind of hallelujah moment with iOS for iPad.
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Because the chamfered edges help in this regard in any way? They've got a point though, don't they? It's been 5 years since the iPad got a chassis overhaul. It should have been time with the Pro models releasing together. Rounded edges and the same display meeting frame design as the iPhone would be wonderful to hold and use.

Slipperiness doesn't come into it.

Actually yes slipperiness does come into it. The current iPhones are widely criticized for being easy to drop in comparison to the 4/5.

 

[Mr. Donahue]

3 microphones, all the better to hear you with my dear.

-beware of the Wolf.

 

[scrapesleon]

if these renders are true Apple can count me out of this upgrade I need an iPad that looks like the iPhone 8 and that clearly doesn't fit the bill

 

[007p]

c) there hasn't been compelling software that has required anyone to upgrade

They'd never do this, but now would be a great time to introduce a 'pro' iOS. Make it only run on iPad pros and force people still using Airs/ipad 2s to upgrade if they want new software features. They could of course continue to support the older models with the same blown up iPhone OS we have today. Given that the Air 2 is pretty close to the 9.7" pro internals (at least for what iOS allows you to do), they really need some software enhancements to interest people to upgrade, not just a connected keyboard and a pencil...

Shame they'd never have the courage to do this though

 

[GDF]

I agree - will just stick with my 9.7 iPad Pro. I thought it was supposed to have no bazels?

if it looks like that...thats not redesigned enough for my taste.....

 

[ColdShadow]

what's the point of 10.5" iPad anyway? isn't iPad & tablet market in general pretty much dead? also what's the point of having both 9.7 and 10.5? unless 10.5 is replacing 9.7,the size difference is minimal and makes no sense.

 

[cppguy]

I hate those shamfered edges!

It's so you can pick it up from the desk.
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what's the point of 10.5" iPad anyway? isn't iPad & tablet market in general pretty much dead?

Dead is not the same thing as slowing. CPUs still get outdated, devices get broken. Growing children are getting them for the first time. They go to college, and want a larger, pencil-enabled version.

Upgrading the software would go a long way, though. The 4x4 array of icons is more than ridiculous, especially on the 12.9" model. The whole UI was designed for palm-sized phones. No picture-in-picture. You can't open two files side-by-side. It's only good for gaming and note taking (with the pencil) at this point. And not everyone can afford throwing around this kind of money for such limited functionality.

 

[Jerion]

what's the point of 10.5" iPad anyway? isn't iPad & tablet market in general pretty much dead? also what's the point of having both 9.7 and 10.5? unless 10.5 is replacing 9.7,the size difference is minimal and makes no sense.

The iPad Mini has the same resolution as the main-line iPad. Same screen real estate, just in a more compact and lighter-weight body. With touch screens, the physical size of the screen also significantly plays into usability; touch targets that are the same size in pixels will be easier or harder to hit depending on whether you have a 7.9" or a 9.7" display. So the two form factors offer different tradeoffs: Easier to touch vs. easier to hold. Similar thing here: the 10.5" Pro would (in theory) relate to the 12.9" Pro the same way the Mini relates to the iPad: Same resolution, same onscreen real estate, smaller dimensions.

You could reasonably bet that the 9.7" iPad Pro will vanish if/when the 10.5" model appears. This would make the Pro line uniformly offer more screen real estate than the 'vanilla' iPad/Mini lineup.

Just hope there's some secret sauce in the works to give the iPad lineup some fresh magic...It could use it.

 

[JPack]

I agree - will just stick with my 9.7 iPad Pro. I thought it was supposed to have no bazels?

No one ever said it be bezel-less. No one credible anyway.
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what's the point of 10.5" iPad anyway? isn't iPad & tablet market in general pretty much dead? also what's the point of having both 9.7 and 10.5? unless 10.5 is replacing 9.7,the size difference is minimal and makes no sense.

One of the main complaints from commercial users was the 9.7" iPad Pro display was too small for business workloads.

Most users want a 10" to 13" display, similar to Microsoft Surface.