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10.8.3 rMBP worse GPU performance
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I use SystemPal widget and when it's at max CPU usage, it never goes above 72-75. Fan speed is increasing with that to about 6000rpm and fans get really noisy but my impression with Retina is that it is very cool macbook.
My wife's got retina as well, same story there. Both machines are on 10.8.3 with all updates up to date.
Would you mind downloading temperature monitor (http://www.bresink.com/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html) from Bresink. It is one of the more accurate softwares for temperature detection.
The performance seemed to get a bit better. Minor changes but noticeable. Thanks!
Ok, I've installed it and when my current widget shows me 51C, that program shows 65C at pretty much idle - it doesn't make sense at all.
It does make sense. Thing is, some apps are prepared to correctly read recent hardware's temps. Others aren't.
so 60C for "not doing much" laptop is quite bizzare.
previously I had a thinkpad and 40C at idle was what I was getting. Now it seems like it will never go below 50C....crazy.
Is CPU proximity sensors really that crap? Too far away from the actual cores?
Some are just not updated for the most recent software/hardware and cannot properly read the temperature. Better safe than sorry.
Oh you were talking about the temps. Yes, I find it quite bizarre as well but I decided to stop worrying tbh.
OK I just saw this post and realized that I might have opened one for almost same issue. Mine is not retina though it's a MBP 9,1 with 1 gigs GT 650M. I don't play BF3 or SC2 but I do play HoN which was working fine on my 2008 Acer laptop. I don't get heating issues just lags. Also, in fullscreen videos, I got lag in every 1 second. Called Apple and the guy helped me to reset SMC, VRAM etc. He said go to a store to check it but the closest one is 100 miles away :/ Followed the suggestions in my thread and upgraded to 10.8.3 but still same..
Well the problem has occurred again. Now I'm starting to suspect whether or not it may be hardware related now? There is no evidence of throttling. Monitoring programs show the fans running at 100%. I have reinstalled Bootcamp again and it shows poor performance (I have compared my performance in game with multiple videos of other's performance with similar specs, in-game settings, and other stuff of sorts. For bootcamp, the only thing that changed was the drivers. And others do not seem to be having trouble with the drivers and I re-dled them and re-installed and so I can conclude it's not the drivers. My method of installation did not differ.)
On the Mac OS side of things. Unless an update was installed without me pressing install, which then I conclude it must have been a minor update otherwise why would Apple have installed something without my consent. So I doubt that is a faulty update like before but my performance is equally as shoddy as before.
Also to the above poster: try re-installing.
Update:
Just re-installed. Will check to see performance. If it fixes itself I am not quite sure as to the reason of this problem, but hope for an observable reason to why the hardware/software performance is sub-par even without a major software update. It is possible and possibly probable that it is a user error that was not remembered, but I do not know.
Re-update:
It was not fixed. Whereas the first time I re-installed I got over two hundred FPS on the same settings I am using now. I get around twenty to thirty FPS.
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Hello everybody,
I've stubble upon this thread and was very happy to find out that I was not the only one with the same problem . . . (Sad)
So here is mine. I'm so desperate because I like to play game when not working and I'm currently working outside the place I usually live. So the only way for me to have a bit of fun is my retina MacBook Pro. I guess the spec don't matter with this problem but here are mine (2,6Ghz, 16Go RAM, 500SSD)
Since already more than a month (I think) I cannot play anything on bootcamp anymore, it's driving me crazy, I've even re-install completely win7, nothing changed.
Every game I've tried new or old is having a nasty impossible to play stuttering or framing (I'm sorry my English is not perfect at all)
Tomb raider (40 Fps at high setting) but still the same stop-motion like problem.
Resident evil 6 (40+ Fps at high setting) same problem.
Counter-strike source (60 Fps at high setting) no problem or very little noticeable stuttering. . .
I guess it only affect game that don't reach the V-sync max limit. Because when playing RE6 if I enable 30fps cap it stop doing it. And if I let it to 60fps it became a stop motion game . . .
I guess it's a OSX problem because the same game I used to play when I just bought the computer have this problem now and didn't have it before.
I'm so desperate . . Is there a way to fix this ? Do I need to take my computer
for reparation ? If I do a all new clean install of OSX Mountain Lion will it fix it ?
Have you guys came up with something that can help ?
-I have the latest Nvidia driver (320 beta)
- one think I noticed too is that I had better performance and no stuttering when playing on a external display !!! But since the last update a week or two ago I have it everywhere now.
I will try to make a video and upload it to explain it better. . .
Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
I've stubble upon this thread and was very happy to find out that I was not the only one with the same problem . . . (Sad)
So here is mine. I'm so desperate because I like to play game when not working and I'm currently working outside the place I usually live. So the only way for me to have a bit of fun is my retina MacBook Pro. I guess the spec don't matter with this problem but here are mine (2,6Ghz, 16Go RAM, 500SSD)
Since already more than a month (I think) I cannot play anything on bootcamp anymore, it's driving me crazy, I've even re-install completely win7, nothing changed.
Every game I've tried new or old is having a nasty impossible to play stuttering or framing (I'm sorry my English is not perfect at all)
Tomb raider (40 Fps at high setting) but still the same stop-motion like problem.
Resident evil 6 (40+ Fps at high setting) same problem.
Counter-strike source (60 Fps at high setting) no problem or very little noticeable stuttering. . .
I guess it only affect game that don't reach the V-sync max limit. Because when playing RE6 if I enable 30fps cap it stop doing it. And if I let it to 60fps it became a stop motion game . . .
I guess it's a OSX problem because the same game I used to play when I just bought the computer have this problem now and didn't have it before.
I'm so desperate . . Is there a way to fix this ? Do I need to take my computer
for reparation ? If I do a all new clean install of OSX Mountain Lion will it fix it ?
Have you guys came up with something that can help ?
-I have the latest Nvidia driver (320 beta)
- one think I noticed too is that I had better performance and no stuttering when playing on a external display !!! But since the last update a week or two ago I have it everywhere now.
I will try to make a video and upload it to explain it better. . .
Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
Anybody know if there is a fix for the graphics problems ? Like a full reset of the Mac and not installing the updates . . . ? How long before apple release a patch ! It's amazing ! I got better performance on an old laptop running a gt8800 !!!
Can anyone explain me what is actually causing this problem ?
Can anyone explain me what is actually causing this problem ?
I heard the issue is a firmware update that causes the video card to throttle even if its on High Performance.
So we just have to cross fingers and hope that they will fix it with the next update . . . And in the meanwhile they expect us to just keep to Facebook games only ? I can't believe apple is doing such things . . . Steve would never had let those things happened. Apple is really lowering they service and quality in my opinion . . . ( I had to returns 3 TIMES my gf iphone5 before getting a "working" one !)
And I can believe they're giving this kind of service to people who spended more than 3000 euro to buy such an expensive laptop that cannot even work properly !!!
And I can believe they're giving this kind of service to people who spended more than 3000 euro to buy such an expensive laptop that cannot even work properly !!!
Any updates on your end? Did you fix the problem? I was planning on doing a factory restore, like you did a few pages before. Now I'm not sure it will help, judging by the fact that the problem reoccurred for you.
Well it turned out that I had a problem with my logic board. So I believe the factory reset fixed the problem and then the problem with the logic board brought back the throttling.