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Young Frankenstein is a bitrate balloon, extremely grainy. Grayscale is not the same as actually clean dark simple scenes with little complexity. yes, grain will balloon bitrate and file size whether it be just old or whether its post production (ala 300).

I can vouch for this. RF 21 should work for these.
Oh how I love Young Frankenstein. One of my all time favorites

"Werewolf" .... "There wolf" :)
 
yes, frankly I read a few posts that suggest rf 18 or even down to 14 ... thats crazy on hd sources imo.

To all: The RF (constant quality) scale is logarithmic, not linear ... typically if you get much lower than rf 19 (higher quality is a lower ref number, much like golf scores) you will see huge increases in bitrate/ filesize for *very* little or no increase in visual quality. Though its not completely accurate if your going to do a test look for the x264 encoders ssim measurement right before the encode closes in the activity log in HandBrake. That is the encoders measurement of achieved visual quality.

For HD content I think 20 is about perfect and certainly nothing below 19 (remember golf).
 
Weirdly, I have found that black and white movies end up with relatively very large file sizes. Young Frankenstein and Dr. Strangelove both took forever to encode. I'm assuming it's to do with the intentional grainy look of both movies.

Try Aliens--it takes the cake for me so far. I've been converting a bunch of blu-rays lately and threw this one in the queue this morning. I was running rf20 and after 5 hours it was only 20% done and 7GB. This on a quad core i7. I killed it and at that point it was over 30Mbps--the source disk is 26. It wasn't a fluke as I did some test chapters with stock high profile after ( I usually run a variation with a strong film tune and a few bumped up settings but keep rf20) and it was still running north of 24 Mbps. I think I'll have to resort to 2-pass and limit the bitrate. A test at 12Mbps looked great on my TV. This is a weird one.
 
So....did we decide to use AppleTV 2 settings and simply up the vid settings to 1920 X 1080? Do you click on "custom" to up those settings? I keep going back and forth!

Or did we decide on High Quality? When I do this, it's hit or miss as to whether movies will drag into and import into iTunes. What could I be doing wrong settings-wise?

Dynaflash - thanks for your help with this thread! I've already learned a lot about HB with this thread (though clearly I'm still a noob).

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Oh..and one more question. If i'm importing a DVD (at 720 X 480 quality), can I enhance the quality at all, or just put in the same output settings and go from there?
 
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[/COLOR]Oh..and one more question. If i'm importing a DVD (at 720 X 480 quality), can I enhance the quality at all, or just put in the same output settings and go from there?


If what your asking is can you up the resolution, the answer is no.
 
Ok...maybe ONE more question.
I decided to use the High Profile setting for BD MKV's. I keep reading to use "strict" in the pictures settings. Wen I do this, the ratio sets to 1920x810 or close to it. How do I use strict and endure I'm getting a 1080p m4v?

Sorry...all new to me, but I'm anxious to learn.
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Ok...maybe ONE more question.
I decided to use the High Profile setting for BD MKV's. I keep reading to use "strict" in the pictures settings. Wen I do this, the ratio sets to 1920x810 or close to it. How do I use strict and endure I'm getting a 1080p m4v?

Sorry...all new to me, but I'm anxious to learn.
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You are; the difference is the pixels taken up by the black bars.
 
All of mine have been running 5 to 6GB typically a few closer to 7GB. Today I had my largest encode yet, it was American Beauty, think it hit almost 9GB. Fantastic quality though so I'm not complaining - that was with the default RF 20 as well.

High Profile seems to be fine the quality is fantastic and I don't see much of a penalty over the ATV2 preset and manually setting 1080P resolution. Might as well eek a little more quality.

For fun I maxxed out the x264 options and watched my quad-core beast fall to its knees at 1 frame per second average. :D
 
So I wanted to get back to the group and share some results with an Intel Quick Sync encoder. The fps stablize at 72.83fps for 1080p iPad 3 profile for this software. I'll let everyone know how is the resulting quality. A few observations on the setup: 1) automatic cropping is not nearly as good as handbrake, 2) multiple audio tracks from one source is not possible.

The results were not favorable. There was pixelation in the studio introduction. However, the file size was considerably smaller. I noticed the bit rate in this tool was fixed and reduced when cropping the image. I believe their algorithm depends on the black bar or the bit rate is simply too low. I'm running the encode again with different settings. Really easy to test at +70fps for 1080p.
 
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Anybody have any clue why an encode of Step Brothers DVD ripped with makeMKV and encoded with the default ATV2 preset plays fine on the ATV3 but won't play on the new iPad? It syncs and shows up in the video app but trying to play it brings up a dialogue box that says "Cannot be played".
 
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Anybody have any clue why an encode of Step Brothers DVD ripped with makeMKV and encoded with the default ATV2 preset plays fine on the ATV3 but won't play on the new iPad? It syncs and shows up in the video app but trying to play it brings up a dialogue box that says "Cannot be played".

Try resetting your presets to default. Bit rate (low RF#) and b-frames are my first guess. The new iPad can play most 1080p encodes, so it has to be an extreme setting on the advanced tab or way too low RF value causing a crazy bit rate.
 
I've been reading through all the threads here, and over at handbrake forums, but still have the question remaining.

Essentially, I keep getting the following (this came from handbrake forum).

"To bring this conversation back around, unless you really know what you're doing, your two best ATV3 encode options are the "Normal" or "High Profile" presets, as per the first post in this thread. Just click and encode. Don't overthink it."

My question is as follows - if I don't resize in the pictures settings by choosing Anamorphic "Custom", the pic size is 1920X800. Does this still create a 1080p output?
 
I've been reading through all the threads here, and over at handbrake forums, but still have the question remaining.

Essentially, I keep getting the following (this came from handbrake forum).

"To bring this conversation back around, unless you really know what you're doing, your two best ATV3 encode options are the "Normal" or "High Profile" presets, as per the first post in this thread. Just click and encode. Don't overthink it."

My question is as follows - if I don't resize in the pictures settings by choosing Anamorphic "Custom", the pic size is 1920X800. Does this still create a 1080p output?

Your 16:9 HDTV will have a pixel count of 1920 horizontal by 1080 vertical. As most movies are not shot in 16:9 (IE Letterboxed) the remainder of the vertical space will be taken up with black bars. Handbrake detects this, and removes them from the encode, saving time and space.

As long as the width of your encode in Handbrake is 1920, you will be getting the best possible encode from your source.
 
How long do you all think it will be before HB releases an ATV 3 preset?

one would think they could have done it already, all they would have to do is copy the 'High Profile' settings and call it 'AppleTV 3'

I would imagine that it would be mere days away if that is all they are going to do.
 
one would think they could have done it already, all they would have to do is copy the 'High Profile' settings and call it 'AppleTV 3'
And that is exactly what I did on my system. I select High Profile, changed to strict, turned off detelecine, added a second audio track as AC3 6-Channel discrete, and Added it as a new preset called AppleTV 3.

Now I just select that one when doing a conversion. It's worked perfectly on my home theatre setup.
 
And that is exactly what I did on my system. I select High Profile, changed to strict, turned off detelecine, added a second audio track as AC3 6-Channel discrete, and Added it as a new preset called AppleTV 3.

Now I just select that one when doing a conversion. It's worked perfectly on my home theatre setup.

Quick question: I thought you had a good idea and tried it. On the New Preset menu I see Use Picture Size: Custom and 720 x 464 and Use Picture Filters: (checked)

Would that be a correct setting or should I use Source Maximum for the picture size setting?
 
Strict vs Loose?

I have read every post in this form and I am still confused which setting is ideal for ripping Blu-rays. I have encoded a blu-ray using the high profile preset and it turned out great. My question is should I switch it from loose to strict? Am I missing out on part of the picture by leaving on the default settings of loose?

My apologies if this is redundant, I know it has been throughly discussed, but I have yet to find a straight answer.

Thanks
 
I have read every post in this form and I am still confused which setting is ideal for ripping Blu-rays. I have encoded a blu-ray using the high profile preset and it turned out great. My question is should I switch it from loose to strict? Am I missing out on part of the picture by leaving on the default settings of loose?

My apologies if this is redundant, I know it has been throughly discussed, but I have yet to find a straight answer.

Thanks

I would also like to know the same, what's the difference between strict and loose?

I would like to know what are people using for the 'Detelecine' and 'Decomb' options? on High Profile they are both set to 'Default' but on the ATV2 preset they are both set to 'off'

also 'Framerate' should always be set at 'Same as source' (as it is in 'High Profile') shouldn't it? why on the ATV2 preset is it set at 29.97?
 
Quick question: I thought you had a good idea and tried it. On the New Preset menu I see Use Picture Size: Custom and 720 x 464 and Use Picture Filters: (checked)

Would that be a correct setting or should I use Source Maximum for the picture size setting?

Those were the only settings I changed. When I Added the preset, I left it with whatever the default was since I was unsure what the correct answer was.

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I would like to know what are people using for the 'Detelecine' and 'Decomb' options? on High Profile they are both set to 'Default' but on the ATV2 preset they are both set to 'off'

I had on the Handbrake forums that the suggested setting for detelecine was off and it would be changed to that in a future version, so I just went with that.

See Rodeo's comment at the bottom
 
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