Using the High Profile w/ Web Optimisation and CQ set to 18, generally around 6-7GB.
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1080p Handbrake settings for new Apple TV?
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Using the High Profile w/ Web Optimisation and CQ set to 18, generally around 6-7GB.
On the other hand, The Fifth Element came out to about 10GB - there is a significant variation depending on the content. The High profile is very adaptive - hence the long encode times.
It's a great preset though - I watched Iron Man done with High/RF=18 last night and it looked really, really good. Far better than HD cable I could believe it was a blu-ray if I didn't have a recent comparison. Absolutely no noticeable artifacts, just a slight overall loss of sharpness/clarity when directly compared.
Quite pleased - the ATV3 has a great UI with the iPad Apple Remote app and I recover a bunch of disc space on my NAS.
I have about 300 more movies to transcode, so the MacPro is getting a 24x7 workout for the next month or two.
Color me happy
I've been using the default High setting, with a CR of 17. It takes about 4 hours, which is too long for my tastes. I'm running on a pretty powerful machine, Quad Core i7 @ 3.7GHz.
On the other hand, The Fifth Element came out to about 10GB - there is a significant variation depending on the content. The High profile is very adaptive - hence the long encode times.
It's a great preset though - I watched Iron Man done with High/RF=18 last night and it looked really, really good. Far better than HD cable I could believe it was a blu-ray if I didn't have a recent comparison. Absolutely no noticeable artifacts, just a slight overall loss of sharpness/clarity when directly compared.
Quite pleased - the ATV3 has a great UI with the iPad Apple Remote app and I recover a bunch of disc space on my NAS.
I have about 300 more movies to transcode, so the MacPro is getting a 24x7 workout for the next month or two.
Color me happy
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I have been very impressed with the video quality. A couple years ago, I was using HB to transcode dvd's and I was not happy with the outcome. I was experiencing lots of pixelation even at the best settings. It sort of looked like flat backgrounds were "crawling". I don't know if that make sense or not but you could see movement on flat surfaces. So I stopped using it. Bought a bigger HDD and started doing iso's and lately mkv's with no compression. I was a little leery of going back to HB to create files the aTV could play. But I think in my time away they have made some really great quality improvements.
I have found that to be a reliable workflow, particularly if you are wanting to maintain the highest quality and minimize file size. I also use Subler at the end to add metadata and optional subtitles.
Avatar is around 6 hours to encode on a 2011 Mac mini 2.0GHz Quad-Core Intel i7 using the High Profile Preset with Detelecine and Decomb disabled and Web Optimized check. The resulting file size is over 10GB Compared with Drive using the same settings which was marginally larger than the Apple TV 2 Preset. Content really does impact the compression.
Compared with Drive using the same settings which was marginally larger than the Apple TV 2 Preset. Content really does impact the compression.Been transcoding Avatar for 17 1/2 hours now, still shows 2 hours to go. This is truly a labor of love.Avatar is around 6 hours to encode on a 2011 Mac mini 2.0GHz Quad-Core Intel i7 using the High Profile Preset with Detelecine and Decomb disabled and Web Optimized check. The resulting file size is over 10GB
Using the same presets as you but did not turn off detelecine/decomb option. My understanding is that makes no difference in quality, encode, or file size for HD material. At 15GB output file and still counting. Starting file was 41GB and I am including DTSHD/DTS tracks as passthrough even though I know the aTV will not play it. Who knows what the future may bring?
Okay cool, I just need to pick up a blu-ray drive. What file type will I ultimately end up with? I've seen references to .m4v and also .mp4 and I am a tad confused.
They are basically the same thing. But Apple has some aspects of their hardware that are enabled with a file using the m4v extension. You can actually just retype the extension to mp4 and it will work fine outside of the Apple universe.
My recommendation: Don't over think HB. Use the recommended presets (High Profile is recommended for aTV 3 at this time). If for some reason you are not happy with some aspect of the video/audio output, you can go "tweaking" but that can quickly degenerate into a quagmire and lot's of time spent transcoding and re-transcoding.
On a another note, since you brought it up, I have been using an inexpensive Plextor external BRD with my MBP with good results.
Yeah I will definitely stick with the presets that HB recommends. I don't know near enough or care near enough to go messing around with settings. I just want it to work, look good enough, and not have massive file sizes. I was just about to ask what BRD you were using. So a cheaper drive should suffice? Should I go with a 12X with FW400/800 or is that overkill?
Has anybody found a setting for full screen on the new iPad? I ask, because I don't like widescreen on the device...the part of the screen that shows is incredible, great detail etc. But I've been trying to get an acceptable "Full Screen" setting specifically for the newbie...Just can't get it right...Close? yes, but still end up with stretching....Going full screen from a widescreen rip is not an acceptable option....Starting to go a little nuts...
My understanding from reading the Handbrake forum, is that it does not have an effect on picture quality or file size but only optimizes the header compression to facilitate faster streaming...but don't quote me on that
It move the MOOV atom at the beginning of the file instead of the end. The MOOV atom contains the "map" of the film so placing it at the begining make it easy to stream the file.
Absolutely no influence on quality, size or encode time. It should be safe to always use it
For action or effects-heavy movies around 2.8-3.0 GB. For comedies, drama, other stuff without a lot of visual bitrate being pushed around, 1.7-1.9GB. Don't be fooled by these guys overbitting their stuff so heavily... it's not necessary, and my encodes look absolutely great even on a 55" Samsung LED TV. All it takes is some practice at what Handbrake can do and why certain options work the way they do for video compression in general. You can learn it and do it too.
And yes I know the dynaguy is in this thread. I still think he is wrongly encouraging people to far overbit their encodes for an infinitesimal, if that, improvement in quality over the file sizes I get doing it this way.
I have found the limiting factor to be the transcoder not the drive. I will rip a dvd to mkv in about 15m at 7-8X. It's really pretty fast as there its just putting the dvd contents into a different container. As always...set the price you want to spend and get as much as you can for it.
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you do not need a burner. Just a reader.
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Just for accuracy, the High Profile or Normal preset was recommended for the aTV 3 by Handbrake on the Handbrake forum. That should be a pretty good source for a recommendation.
So if I just need a reader then this should do fine?
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/MRSSBD4X/
Anybody have a recommendation? I have a 2010 i5 MacBook Pro if that matters
I think that one would be fine. I was thinking about it myself. I don't know the advantage to having the FW800 interface, probably nothing really.
It's all subjective of course but I think you are in the minority here with a 1.9GB 1080p file being acceptable to watch, especially on 55" TV unless you like banding, blocking, and softness. What is your "magic" option sting?
Yeah 1.9GB rips sounds a bit low, that's my regular DVD rips.
I did a lot of HD 720P encodes in the 4.5 to 6GB range and they look fantastic. I have no plans to re-do any of them but I'm now doing 1080P and trying to stay in the 5 to 7GB range (8GB for longer films). It's all subjective, use what works best for you. If 2GB files are good enough for your needs, so be it.
I did a lot of HD 720P encodes in the 4.5 to 6GB range and they look fantastic. I have no plans to re-do any of them but I'm now doing 1080P and trying to stay in the 5 to 7GB range (8GB for longer films). It's all subjective, use what works best for you. If 2GB files are good enough for your needs, so be it.
I bet I have the exact same model (PX-120U) and it works very well.
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I've converted the first 2 Lord of the Rings movies (each just shy of 3 hours) and they are 8.24 and 9.45GB respectively. I cant remember what I chose fo the first one, but the second was done as High Profile and took 22 hours to convert on my MBP (with little else running).
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My question is would the Apple TV 2 preset 720p encode be better PQ than a High Profile preset 1080p with the CQ slider down to 22. The source is Blu-Ray. I have movies like Avatar that are 11GB at 1080p. I'd like to cut down the size a little or just go back to the Apple TV 2 preset.
My question is would the Apple TV 2 preset 720p encode be better PQ than a High Profile preset 1080p with the CQ slider down to 22. The source is Blu-Ray. I have movies like Avatar that are 11GB at 1080p. I'd like to cut down the size a little or just go back to the Apple TV 2 preset.