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If it is not too intrusive to ask, but what was the most disappointing Apple device you owned?
The zune player
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Looks like a great update. It may even help many to realise how they don’t need some features of the Air like the rounded corners, better camera, Face ID etc.
 
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Isn’t iPad (and every other tablet) on a decline? I mean, most will buy a laptop nowadays, not?
For many, if not most, people who want a computer device a tablet makes the most sense for how they want to use it. But lots of people have both, a tablet and a laptop, each used for mostly different things.

For many a laptop is more like a formal work station device while a tablet is a more general purpose device.
 
Hopefully it has laminated display, finally.
Anyway, probably the best value iPad all around, unless you want stage manager. Due to iPadOS, all iPads run and functions practically the same, no matter if you have the cheapest or the Pro iPads. They all run the same apps. USB-C would be a plus, although Apple would probably ditch the headphone jack.

All we hope is no price increase, or just a bit. Have a feeling it will be $399 (or worse, $499).

it’s a tad contradictory to want the addition of a laminated display while fretting about a potential price increase.

The consensus is many of the entry-level iPads were bought by boards of education and others with similar base-level needs. A laminated makes repair more expensive when snot-nosed brats inevitably break the devices.

If new tooling (and its associated up front costs) is required for the new casing along with a new laminated display I have a hard time believing the current pricing would/could be maintained. There are margins to be maintained and shareholders to satisfy, not to mention senior executive targets that equate to bonuses.

I also think they’ll remove the headphone jack. Gotta keep those airpod numbers up especially with new models on the horizon.
 
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On MR many want the base iPad to be a Pro device for entry level price. But the base iPad is Apple’s best selling iPad even though it doesn’t have all the Pro bells-and-whistles because it delivers what most people like for a reasonable price.

And compared to how it has evolved the current base iPad is already an upmarket device compared to what it was five years ago and particularly to when iPads were first introduced.


My current iPad Pro 10.5 is still going strong so I have no compelling reason to replace it. But my mother’s old iPad Air has gotten brutally slow. She doesn’t care because she uses it only for solitaire and jigsaw puzzles, but she could appreciate a bigger screen.
 
it’s a tad contradictory to want the addition of a laminated display while fretting about a potential price increase.

The consensus is many of the entry-level iPads were bought by boards of education and others with similar base-level needs. A laminated makes repair more expensive when snot-nosed brats inevitably break the devices.

If new tooling (and its associated up front costs) is required for the new casing along with a new laminated display I have a hard time believing the current pricing would/could be maintained. There are margins to be maintained and shareholders to satisfy, not to mention senior executive targets that equate to bonuses.

I also think they’ll remove the headphone jack. Gotta keep those airpod numbers up especially with new models on the horizon.
Removing the headphone Jack would make it more difficult to use in a classroom. With classroom shared iPads the kids are usually told to bring their own earbuds (which everyone has and can be obtained cheaply)
 
it’s a tad contradictory to want the addition of a laminated display while fretting about a potential price increase.

The consensus is many of the entry-level iPads were bought by boards of education and others with similar base-level needs. A laminated makes repair more expensive when snot-nosed brats inevitably break the devices.

If new tooling (and its associated up front costs) is required for the new casing along with a new laminated display I have a hard time believing the current pricing would/could be maintained. There are margins to be maintained and shareholders to satisfy, not to mention senior executive targets that equate to bonuses.

I also think they’ll remove the headphone jack. Gotta keep those airpod numbers up especially with new models on the horizon.
Apple can keep the current iPad for education. Apple had done this before, making a special lower cost product for the education market (eMac, white iMac).
 
Apple can keep the current iPad for education. Apple had done this before, making a special lower cost product for the education market (eMac, white iMac).

I hope that's the case.
Selfishly, I prefer having devices with the 3.5mm jack for my headphones. For me iPads are not my primary computing solution.
Do you think having two lower-end models (with home button etc.) might make price and product positioning overly cramped?
 
Removing the headphone Jack would make it more difficult to use in a classroom. With classroom shared iPads the kids are usually told to bring their own earbuds (which everyone has and can be obtained cheaply)

And... they sound better than bluetooth :)
 
Hopefully it has laminated display, finally.
Anyway, probably the best value iPad all around, unless you want stage manager. Due to iPadOS, all iPads run and functions practically the same, no matter if you have the cheapest or the Pro iPads. They all run the same apps. USB-C would be a plus, although Apple would probably ditch the headphone jack.

All we hope is no price increase, or just a bit. Have a feeling it will be $399 (or worse, $499).
Laminated is instant buy, but I'm afraid it won't because somehow they'll have to differentiate it enough from the iPad air/pro for the air/pro to make sense as a products (and realistically that whole lineup is making less and less sense).
 
I’d like to see an iPad that doesn’t keep growing in size. The 9.7” with slim bezels and thinner would be ideal size and weight for me. But apple thinks they have to keep growing. Eventually the mini will be big enough for me 😆

Compared to the 9.7" iPad's have barely increased in size, 7mm in height and 9mm in width.
 
I think TouchID on the power button would be nice, but you bring up an excellent point. The problem with iPhones and iPads now is they’re not user intuitive anymore. They used to have that home button that was like a get out of jail free or I am lost take me home button.

Now, we have swipes and gestures that require thinking and learning. It wouldn’t be as easy to teach your grandma how to use an iPad Pro 12.9” 5th generation as it would the standard iPad with Home Button.

I personally would like to see Tim Cook retire and Scott Forstall come back and take his role that he was assume to fill by Steve Jobs after learning more of the business as Cook was only meant to be a transitional leader beyond Jobs’s death. Sort of like when Steve came back, I would like to see Scott come back. And he would make **** a lot easier to use than this ridiculous Stage Manager implementation and all the prior bs multitasking gestures.

How does swiping up from the bottom require “thinking and learning”?
 
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. They are making a huge mistake if they lose the headphone jack. They sell these things by the truckload to schools, and families are huge market as well, using them for their younger children. No school is going to want to deal with the hassle of wireless headphones, nor will families with young children.
 
I find it sad that so many people want every iPad in the lineup to look alike. Some act like it is a personal insult to them that Apple dares sell an iPad with a physical home button in 2022. Oh well, the narcissistic consumer mindset is alive and well.

The base iPad continues to be the tech bargain of all Apple's products, IMO. If people want laminated displays, removal of the headphone jack, Face ID, the opportunity to buy more expensive accessories, the iPad Air and iPad Pro exists for them.

But if Apple Air-ifies the base iPad, then there is no option for those of us who prefer the "classic" base.

Thankfully, my 9th gen and Mini 5 are still going strong so I won't have a need to replace them anytime soon.
 
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Okay, I have been using an 8th gen iPad mainly for note taking and apps for education (I am a teacher), and it's been great. If the 10th gen will have...
1) laminated display,
2) USB-C port instead of Lightening, and
3) Apple Pencil 2 compatibility,

then I am sold!
 
😅I just got my iPad 9 a month ago. They really do make a new one every year? That’s impressive…

This one already suits my needs, so I’ll hold onto it at least until the battery goes. Apple doesn’t seem to think it would be worth anything in a trade-in anyways, their current offer is to simply recycle it.
 
10th gen iPad will literally be the Air 3 with A14/15(4-core gpu) and Center Stage ... don't expect anything else, you will be disappointed
 
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