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yeah but majority is into ultrawide, that's the big reason why pixel flopped it's because they included an ultrawide rather than telephoto

Not really. You really think consumers can Fully appreciate/understand the differences between an Ultra Wide versus telephoto lens? The Pixel simply doesn’t have the notoriety that Samsung and Apple phones carry, Coupled with hardly any marketing, plus the software experience was heavily knocked For what Google was asking in price.
 
Xs Max for the win. Easily you can get one with 512gb in superb condition for less than 600usd now.

how many times and how Long are you using the cameras on the 11? Also you will be staring at the screen so much longer in a day vs a year using the cameras.

unless u are an avid photographer or professional, go for the xs Max and it’s still relatively a new phone. if you consider your phone as a symbol too, the 11s are mostly catered to Youngsters, students, new professionals or simply those who could not afford the pro models yet. Given a choice assuming the 11 and the pro Max are the same price, you will definitely choose a pro model ain’t it?

your eyes will also thank you as you aged, unless you cannot stand the OLED “flicker”. I have sensitive eyes and the OLED screen is never a bother.
Utterly bollocks, I can afford a pro model just fine, but to spend 300-400 more just for oled which can’t even tell difference from the lcd on a day to day is non sense.
Not to mention I find lcd read nicer than oled for news and articles on the web

if anyone consider their phone to be a status symbol need to get their head examine.
 
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Call me crazy but oled seems easier on my eyes in the dark. I used to squint like crazy looking at my old 7 at say 3 in the morning, now it’s not so bad even with a bigger screen
 
Not really. You really think consumers can Fully appreciate/understand the differences between an Ultra Wide versus telephoto lens? The Pixel simply doesn’t have the notoriety that Samsung and Apple phones carry, Coupled with hardly any marketing, plus the software experience was heavily knocked For what Google was asking in price.


actually they do.

if we open a thread with a poll on which users prefer more and which they do think those consumers, average or fanatic prefer

is it the ultrawide or is it the telephoto?

it will be ultrawide.
 
Both are great phones. You really can't go wrong.

Compare the differences at Apple.com (if they haven't already been beat to death here). Take those differences and ask yourself if they benefit you, realistically....

For example the XS Max might have a better screen, especially for HDR movies. However I would rather not watch a movie before I watch it on an iPhone, and iPhone.

The 11 has a better front camera. Again, I want to take selfies as much as you guys want to see selfies of me. Since video conferencing is really always 720p I don't have too much of a use for it.

Doing the same thing I ended up buying an 11 Pro Max because I have a specific use for the ultra wide camera that made it worth my while. Outside of that the XS Max would have been just as good for my uses.
 
Sensible people will go with the more expense phone from the start can max is it. Better screen and better build.

I don’t think the camera is that much better on the 11 , yes the wide angle helps but it’s not the end all to be all.
 
Sensible people will go with the more expense phone from the start can max is it. Better screen and better build.

I don’t think the camera is that much better on the 11 , yes the wide angle helps but it’s not the end all to be all.

Why would a more ‘sensible person go for the more expensive phone’?

I don’t think Apple make a poor quality phone and build quality is much the same throughout the range due to the processes involved.
 
I have to kick in for battery life on the XS Max.. I can get 12-14 hours screen time in a day with juice to spare 👍🏻

It’s not the newest or the fastest, but it’s still pretty decent. As for the camera aspect, it’s better than the one in my 7 by a fairly large margin.. will be looking forward to the 12S Max just before the 13 drops 😄
 
Sensible people will go with the more expense phone from the start can max is it. Better screen and better build.

None of what you said makes sense. First off, ‘better‘ is a subjective word, It’s variable, not consistent across the board From everybody else’s perspective.

All of Apples iPhones have ‘top quality‘ builds, and as far as a better displays are concerned, do you think consumers can differentiate between OLED versus LCD? I’d reference you to YouTube, where there’s exact test(s) where consumers can’t even tell the difference.
 
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I would take the XS Max, because I prioritise screen quality over anything else, and barely use the camera. Your mileage may vary.
 
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Utterly bollocks, I can afford a pro model just fine, but to spend 300-400 more just for oled which can’t even tell difference from the lcd on a day to day is non sense.
Not to mention I find lcd read nicer than oled for news and articles on the web

if anyone consider their phone to be a status symbol need to get their head examine.

The GREATEST AND BEST iPhone is the ultimate status symbol, one that everyone envies. It shows ppl you are rich and have good tastes for good designs. OLED makes a world of difference, and is a huge leap forward. It is simply no match for the crappy 720p LCD which has the same resolution as the iPhone 4, released 10 years ago. Yes, its 2020 now, time to move on and increase resolution to OLED levels.
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As much as I love my Max if it’s the same price you may as well go for the 11 Pro. Just so long as you aren’t pining for the bigger screen

I’ve got the XS Max and it’s just a fantastic device
yes the larger screen makes all the difference in the world. You should always get the largest iPhone possible, eek out every valuable mm from a bigger screen.
 
The GREATEST AND BEST iPhone is the ultimate status symbol, one that everyone envies. It shows ppl you are rich and have good tastes for good designs. OLED makes a world of difference, and is a huge leap forward. It is simply no match for the crappy 720p LCD which has the same resolution as the iPhone 4, released 10 years ago. Yes, its 2020 now, time to move on and increase resolution to OLED levels.
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yes the larger screen makes all the difference in the world. You should always get the largest iPhone possible, eek out every valuable mm from a bigger screen.

The best iPhone is the one an individual chooses and decides is best for their needs. You have to bear in mind many posters here are in their 30s and 40’s and even older. People aren’t envying each other’s iPhones like the way you suggest unless they are perhaps teenagers or young professionals obsessed with image.

Apple doesn’t make an LCD currently with the same resolution as an iPhone 4, not sure where you got that impression? If there’s one place where you’ll find people clued up on iPhone specs, it’s Mac Rumours.
 
The GREATEST AND BEST iPhone is the ultimate status symbol, one that everyone envies. It shows ppl you are rich and have good tastes for good designs. OLED makes a world of difference, and is a huge leap forward. It is simply no match for the crappy 720p LCD which has the same resolution as the iPhone 4, released 10 years ago. Yes, its 2020 now, time to move on and increase resolution to OLED levels.
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yes the larger screen makes all the difference in the world. You should always get the largest iPhone possible, eek out every valuable mm from a bigger screen.

Nobody envies a phone. It’s 2020.
Phones are not status symbols. Nor are any other items sold in tens of millions every year. It’s 2020.
Taste and design appreciation are personal preference.

OLED is important only to some. It’s with iPhone for three years in a row. It’s not leaping anywhere.

iPhone 11 has a different resolution from iPhone 4. And neither are 720p. I suggest you stop the blanko statements and maybe base your argument on facts rather than make things up.
 
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Nobody envies a phone. It’s 2020.
Phones are not status symbols. Nor are any other items sold in tens of millions every year. It’s 2020.
Taste and design appreciation are personal preference.
I expect it's a status symbol in some countries with lower wages. In the US where the difference between 11 and 11 Pro Max is $10-20/mo? Not so much.

That said, I don't particularly find the three-eyed raven look attractive (yes, I know it's crow in the books).
 
The best iPhone is the one an individual chooses and decides is best for their needs. You have to bear in mind many posters here are in their 30s and 40’s and even older. People aren’t envying each other’s iPhones like the way you suggest unless they are perhaps teenagers or young professionals obsessed with image.

Apple doesn’t make an LCD currently with the same resolution as an iPhone 4, not sure where you got that impression? If there’s one place where you’ll find people clued up on iPhone specs, it’s Mac Rumours.

I got the impression from tech specs. Just google it or look it up in Apple's website. The iPhone 4 and iPhone XR/11 have the exact same pixels per inch, meaning it is the same resolution. (ppi is the real metric for comparison as it is adjusted for different screen sizes/dimensions).
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I got the impression from tech specs. Just google it or look it up in Apple's website. The iPhone 4 and iPhone XR/11 have the exact same pixels per inch, meaning it is the same resolution. (ppi is the real metric for comparison as it is adjusted for different screen sizes/dimensions).
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They have the same pixel density: 326 ppi

They do NOT have the same resolution:
iPhone 4: 960x640
iPhone XR/11: 1792x828
 
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it has a BETTER CAMERA
it has a BETTER BATTERY LIFE
it has NIGHT MODE
it has ULTRA WIDE (more useful than telephoto which you can zoom)
it has better PROCESSOR

choosing XS max over so many reasons just because of OLED is funny
This pretty much sums it up. Most people who actually use iPhones will tell you that the whole "but it's not 1080P" thing is silly. There's more to screen specifications than the number before the "P"
 
I expect it's a status symbol in some countries with lower wages. In the US where the difference between 11 and 11 Pro Max is $10-20/mo? Not so much.

That said, I don't particularly find the three-eyed raven look attractive (yes, I know it's crow in the books).

Appreciate the input but to me anything you can buy on credit or a financing plan is not a status symbol at all. Besides the fact how hollow and superficial and how yesterday the thinking is in the first place ;)
 
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