99% of those tablets are (very) low cost ones. Only the highest-end ones have Wacom support (e.g., Samsung Notes).
You can't realistically expect expensive active pens in a $40 Chinese junk tablet...
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99% of those tablets are (very) low cost ones. Only the highest-end ones have Wacom support (e.g., Samsung Notes).
You can't realistically expect expensive active pens in a $40 Chinese junk tablet...
Absolutely. I'd pay 1k for this with 500GB Flash and 32GB Ram running OS X.....running Pro tools on something like that would be great as a mobile setup....or for editing.
My bet the name is "iPad Pro" for the 8.5" x 11" iPad. It will also have a "Pro" price.
Any takers?
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I guess is you are right on the demographics for what I'm calling the iPad Pro.
Since it is the size of a standard sheet of paper, I can see this moving into the hands of para-legals and attorneys.
Steve
Any takers?
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I guess is you are right on the demographics for what I'm calling the iPad Pro.
Since it is the size of a standard sheet of paper, I can see this moving into the hands of para-legals and attorneys.
Steve
My point was... I just don't think the demand is there.
In your earlier comment... you seem to be pinning your hopes on Apple for widespread stylus adoption. What if Apple never adds a stylus to the iPad? Does that mean the stylus is dead? Again?
Apple has sold 250 million iPads without a stylus. That's gotta mean something, right?
I have the first gen Intuos stylus and it's fakkin great. Between the new model and iOS 8's better touch sensitivity / palm detection there's really no great need, although I could see the Watch's press detection technology coming to the rest of the iDevices at some point.
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To a point. Sure most people likely don't need one. However many may also use one if it existed. So far no tablet has been perfect so I have to pick and choose options. I want wacom and flash on an iPad.
How would I have any idea of demand? It's not up to me.
People smarter than me at Apple have looked into it and made a decision. So far... Apple hasn't made any devices with a stylus.
However... modern tablets with active styluses DO exist. Microsoft Surface, Galaxy Note Tab something, etc.
How they doin' ?
The way people talk here... they should be dominating tablet sales.
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I was with you until you said "flash"
Another thought is I'm glad other companies make products with the thought that not everything has to sell fifty million units. If that's what everything has to be that sure limits one product like to the most basic of concepts.
Yeah, I still require flash on mobile devices from time to time. Not a huge issue thought. Wacom would be enough.
Yeah, I still require flash on mobile devices from time to time. Not a huge issue thought. Wacom would be enough.
As others have said, Apple really needs to match such power and size in a tablet with software that justifies it.
I strongly believe iOS UI should remain relatively simple, but if we really want a post-PC future we need something that can replace a PC. I don't know what the UI should look like, but I damn sure hope Apple has an idea.
If the iPad Pro isn't at least half as game-changing as the original iPad then I'm going to strongly consider my future with this company as an investor and user.
I strongly believe iOS UI should remain relatively simple, but if we really want a post-PC future we need something that can replace a PC. I don't know what the UI should look like, but I damn sure hope Apple has an idea.
If the iPad Pro isn't at least half as game-changing as the original iPad then I'm going to strongly consider my future with this company as an investor and user.
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Apple does have an idea;
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...ultitouch-solution-for-os-x-on-macs-ipad.html
Whether it sees the light of day or not remains to be seen.
Makes perfect sense. I can't see them abandoning the 4" size, and they're going to have to give up on the name-by-number scheme at some point. They already have with the iPad, only makes sense to transfer the convention to iPhone. Three sizes of each. Three capacities for each. Very tidy, very Apple.
Don't mean to be rude, but what you think is irrelevant. It's Windows, therefore IT departments worth their salt are going to have virus protection.
Secondly, tablets in the corporate environment with corporate data on them and possiblly connecting to corporate infrastructure get their updates internally, not by clicking on Microsoft's update button.
Maybe the experience you describe is for small mom and pop shops, which is fine, but it won't wash in the corporate environment, especially if it is regulated.
Seems quite plausible that this is accurate. What is the point in releasing a new product in the new year with the previous year's processor? 
Its a need to further advance the iPad line that drives the need for new OS.. never thought that I would say it, but full OS X on tablet is inevitable. Otherwise, the iPad hits limits of what can be done through its hardware limitations; mainly connectivity (no built in USB, thunderbold, etc), then inability to use precise movements either through mouse or pressure-sensitive pens; cursor maybe a built in keyboard. With built in keyboard, iPad Pro with OS X will work more easily; it means it will also have mouse; if it can utilize normal OS X apps + touch OS X apps, then it means it momentarily has a vast library of excellent software already; it means also it will start in Launcher mode (remember? the GUI bridge between OS X and iOS). I sometimes use Launcher mode and thinks its OK.
Multi tasking yes. keyboard dock? Not sure about that. I'm sure it will pair well with a mouse and other wireless style keyboard. No docking station though, that's not very appleish.
Yeah, it's pretty much a laptop with a touchscreen. No one uses it while they hold it.
Seems useful to me, if it were real.
This seems like a very useful addition to me. I have tried reading PDF files (designed for printing; i.e. Letter size) on the current "big" iPad before, and just find that it does not really work so well. Either the text/figures are too small, or you zoom in and are just continuously moving things around. At the current iPad size I do not really feel like it captures the same effect as reading on paper or even on a large-size monitor. That is obviously a shame given the seeming potential of reading and annotating on a tablet. Perhaps Apple feels that there are enough people (businesses/schools/students/government agencies) out there that are not (yet?) able to move away from Letter (or A4) sized documents.
I think this kind of "content-driven" consideration might play a larger role than the whole discussion about UI design, number of buttons/rows, dual CPUs etc etc. Of course, I am just thinking from my own perspective here, where my main "professional" use case for the Pad would involve full-size documents, which is not served too well by the current iPad sizes. All the discussion that I have seen, here and before, suggests that not many people have this view. (I guess you don't really need this for watching Youtube or playing flappy bird)
This seems like a very useful addition to me. I have tried reading PDF files (designed for printing; i.e. Letter size) on the current "big" iPad before, and just find that it does not really work so well. Either the text/figures are too small, or you zoom in and are just continuously moving things around. At the current iPad size I do not really feel like it captures the same effect as reading on paper or even on a large-size monitor. That is obviously a shame given the seeming potential of reading and annotating on a tablet. Perhaps Apple feels that there are enough people (businesses/schools/students/government agencies) out there that are not (yet?) able to move away from Letter (or A4) sized documents.
I think this kind of "content-driven" consideration might play a larger role than the whole discussion about UI design, number of buttons/rows, dual CPUs etc etc. Of course, I am just thinking from my own perspective here, where my main "professional" use case for the Pad would involve full-size documents, which is not served too well by the current iPad sizes. All the discussion that I have seen, here and before, suggests that not many people have this view. (I guess you don't really need this for watching Youtube or playing flappy bird)
For me a keyboard without a mouse pad is silly. Touching the screen in "laptop" mode with the keyboard case is uncomfortable. You have to reach over the keyboard to select, than back to typing. Ugh! (Yes I know.. 1st world issues)
Now if there was a way to use my iPhone or iPod as a mouse pad along with a Bluetooth keyboard.......
Instead of mouse, big touchpad would be nice. I know that we'll have touchscreen, but for editing, precise movements are more needed than trying to put cursor between small letters on small screen. I still don't understand though is it iOS based, or it is OS X based. Maybe a hybrid OS?