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Me feels strongly that more uses are coming soon to an iOS device near you.

What do I mean? Another *link* in the chain will be the next device for the home....

It seems planned that iPads this year were minimal upgrades externally but untapped power internally.

Many of you think that Apple unlocked all it will in terms of features. Think again. Why do you *think* they just released the home kit automation stuff.
 
With the size of phone now days that's mostly true. I personally want an all in one device (Surface Pro) that works as both. However it's still possible for something like the mini to fit in there because the Surface is still a bit large for some tasks and a phone may be slightly too small.

Looking how well Windows RT is faring, this would at least require Apple to switch to Intel processors (which would nullify all their chip design expertise). Moreover, I think the only way this could work if every application would have a separate touch-version. Now, given how long Apple has been working to get feature parity between the OS X and iOS version of its iWorks suite, it will take quite a while until we even get close to this.

I think the best we can get is running iOS as an application under OS X, meaning we can do a subset of tasks inside a touch-optised iOS environment and come back to OS X when we attach a pointing device (a bit like running Windows 3.x on top of DOS). But this still will be messy as there will be lots of apps that only work on one side.
 
It would be perfect for a certain subset of people. Sofa TV watchers, gamers, artists--maybe other productivity using the rumored split-screen modes (credit to Surface where due, on that).

It feels too soon for a new size, to me--but now that the 6 Plus is kind of my one-hand "iPad Mini" I start to think I wouldn't mind a bulkier iPad for other things. And I do need a new iPad in the next 6 to 18 months...

I kind of hope the rumor's true! I'm skeptical for now. (But I'm sure Apple's working on all kinds of sizes behind the scenes. Some will be sold, some never will.)

I do NOT expect any iPad to replace a Mac, or vice versa, for most people. Different animals, with different strengths. Some segment of people would do fine with just an iPad and maybe a keyboard, but they're people who don't need the full power of OS X on a Mac. Nothing wrong with that. I still need a Mac.
 
its going to be the 12" macbook air replacement. Going to have two touch screens, one in place of the keyboard and one for the display. keyboard one will have haptic feedback so it feels better to type on but has dual touchscreen to interact with
 
What if this is more of a whole new product line and not just a huge clunky iPad? Only way I can see it not being lame and stale...
 
the tablet market is going stale and they really need to bring something fresh and new to the table- not just a bigger screen.

an apple-version (read: actually done correctly) of the surface pro 3 would be interesting. Something like a macbook air and an ipad put together, and it can dual boot OS X and iOS
 
Tablet sales are slumping across the board:

http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/25/technology/ipad-tablet-sales/index.html

There's not much reason for people to upgrade, so something new will have to be thought up to get people to bite.

And to answer others previous comments about devices such as the Surface Pro 3 and the Lenovo Tablet 10... I'm an IT pro with a strong Windows background with 20 years experience in the business and the letters and certifications to go with it and 30 years experience from home PC's in the VERY early 80's to current.. I work for a $5 billion company that does NOT have a Microsoft EA agreement, so I can assure you there is nobody "pushing" anyone to any specific device due to any sweetheart licensing deals or such. We're just giving people what they want. Most people in our organization have gone to iPhones and a few Droids. People are now asking for more from a tablet and their iPads are getting overlooked for devices that can do more. From what I am hearing from others and reading in trade publications, it's the new trend and not just a small sample size.

It took Microsoft 3 generations of Surfaces to get it right and Windows 8.x is still a mess, but look to that architecture for growth regardless of vendor. Hell I'd get one for myself at home so I don't have to dedicate a spot in my house for a shiny new iMac. I just don't want to support Windows at home.

I have worked in IT for 30 years and everyone wants iPads, not a Surface. Sales only want to use iPads, but can't quite do without the laptop for a few things because our security staff only knows Windows and everything else scares them because the don't like change.The eval on the surface was it is not worth it.
 
One device that does everything. Just done better than something like the surface which sucks at everything.

Have you even used the Surface Pro 3? It's definitely not perfect by any means, but it's a damn impressive device nonetheless.

I might pass on the first gen iPad Pro. The main problem is that there won't be a lot of apps written for it the first year. Professional apps take time and there are already several that run well on the iPad Air 2. There will have to be the additional benefit. Besides, the next version will probably have twice the RAM.

That's kind of the allure with what Windows is doing with the Surface. Of course it still has its flaws, but it's nice being able to run a full version of desktop software (which is multi-touch enabled) and do some work on the go, then work with that same file when I get to my workstation. For a pro tablet like that we need OSX integration. I don't want some other flavor of iOS.

If we're gonna talk about something as rediculous as an "iPad Air Plus",
can we talk about "The Force Awakens" trailer, instead?

What did you find ridiculous about the trailer?
 
I believe that Apple will have an iOS only version for a least a couple of generations. This will give the developers time to create more powerful apps to take advantage of the real estate (specifically Enterprise developers). Down the road, Apple can determine if the market for a Windows compatible tablet is even necessary, and if so, whether the roadmap for ARM will be enough to support it in emulation on iOS; I wouldn't think so.

I suspect that the answer will be a separate OS X tablet with an Intel / AMD processor; whether that would have an iOS compatibility mode would be unknown, but Apple seems intent on not mixing the iOS / OS X paradigms.
 
I very seriously doubt Apple will go Intel for the iPad, for about the same reasons I doubt they'll go ARM for the Macs.

Both platforms are mature. They have well honed developer tools, a wide variety of software, and a ton of support. Why would they screw that up just to go with different processors? At the end of the day, a souped up iOS running a touch based version of Adobe Illustrator (which apparently they've made great strides with) on an iPad Pro won't be much different than the same program running on the SP3. ARM's getting close enough to Intel in performance that it won't make that big of a difference. Why jump ship when the ship's just now starting to prove its worth?
 
I very seriously doubt Apple will go Intel for the iPad, for about the same reasons I doubt they'll go ARM for the Macs.

Both platforms are mature. They have well honed developer tools, a wide variety of software, and a ton of support. Why would they screw that up just to go with different processors? At the end of the day, a souped up iOS running a touch based version of Adobe Illustrator (which apparently they've made great strides with) on an iPad Pro won't be much different than the same program running on the SP3. ARM's getting close enough to Intel in performance that it won't make that big of a difference. Why jump ship when the ship's just now starting to prove its worth?

Real pressure sensitivity would be huge for those who want to do artistic work.
 
But touch UIs and mouse UIs are fundamentally incompatible.

Use a Surface and you will be painfully aware of that within an hour.

The real intrigue of the larger iPad is the software. Uncharted territory ahead.
 
I have worked in IT for 30 years and everyone wants iPads, not a Surface. Sales only want to use iPads, but can't quite do without the laptop for a few things because our security staff only knows Windows and everything else scares them because the don't like change.The eval on the surface was it is not worth it.


The surface has the best touchscreen I've ever used but the OS is typical Windows. Updates are a disaster and never complete. Basically all the problems from XP that made me switch to Mac.
 
It would be a good thing, but who says there will be enough IGZO production capacity? The new processor indicates there's something worthwhile about the update, but I'll believe a new display when I see it.

IGZO has been a tough technology for the manufacturers, it seems. Out of Apple's control.

Is the iPad Air IGZO? I haven't heard of that. Maybe that explains its gorgours colours and wide gamut. I wish I had the Air's screen on my rMBP!
 
I wonder if they will do something like the watch with a larger iPad... Have it run the actual app on a Mac and just put the touch-based interface on the iPad. Would be a neat niche expansion of Continuity.
 
I just can't see the pro being released in that time period for a few reasons;

1.) the A9 chip has just recently been through a tender/ bidding process between Samsung and TSMC and if i remmebr reading correctly they were still competing for it.

2.) it hasn't even been announced, a device that different would probably be similar to the apple watch, anouncemnet then big gap to allow for manufacturing etc
 
Oh, right... The "bendy" phone non issue.. .and the who do you think supplied your 80M screens if not Corning? Huh! Nobody even has 1/2 the capacity to do so. I can accept they were under some pressure but you don't need to invent crap to prove it.

Do you really think Corning makes all the glass for all the mobile devices out there? or that they are the only one that can make strengthened glass?

If your goal was to add nothing to the conversation and up your post count by one, you succeeded. Nothing you could ever say will sway my thoughts on this though, sorry.
 
I can see it happening if the iPhone 6s is released around the same time, like say June 2015. That is if Apple has plans to shift the iPhone release back to early summer. Maybe having both iPhones and iPads released in the Fall is getting to be too much for Apple.

Apple cam barely keep the iPhone 6 plus in stock and to a lesser extent the 6, and they're going to introduce the 6S line 3-4 months early? LOL
 
I won't be surprised if Apple copies the Microsoft Surface 3 Pro. They already copied the Samsung Phablet thingie

So Samsung invented the screen size thingie?
If I remember correctly, Apple already had different products with different screen sizes, no? And if you thought Apple was going to stick with one screen size on it's iPhone's forever, then you are naive.
 
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