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12.9-Inch 'iPad Pro' Production Rumored for Q2 2015 Amid Manufacturing Difficulties
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Agreed completely. It needs to be more than just an app drawer and web browser, which is what 99% of people use their iPads for (yes, I'm exaggerating a bit)...with large phones, MacBooks/Laptops, most people just don't have a need to update an iPad yearly. If this large iPad literally just turns out to be a giant iPad with nothing else to offer, it will be a joke. At least Microsoft tried to push the envelope with the latest Surface.
The thing is, many started out as the underdog. The "innocent" newcomer with lofty ideals. Then reality sets in and it always ends up to be all about business. Look at Apple. It was started in a garage by one idealist and one SOB (RIP Jobs). They slowly grew and for awhile it was a like a large family atmosphere. Then business takes over and boom you've got what you've got today (with a couple of bumps in the road). Google was the underdog going against already established search engines like Yahoo and Alta Vista. Doing business makes you do things you may have fought against, but you do it to survive and thrive. You make compromises that some original fans may abhor, but you do it for the sake of the company. You may hate MS, but look at all the good that Gates is doing around the world. Your underdog Jolla, sounds Utopian now, but business is business.
It's like Laptop is a portable version of Desktop. What's your point? What about iPhone 6 vs iPhone 6+? What's the point, right? NOT. People have different needs for size and performance.The Air already needs to have iOS which is tailored for it, even now, it's just a blown up iPhone version. If they make the ''iPad Pro'' and use your regular iOS, then what's the point? When you have a bigger screen, you need to take advantage of that. Apple isn't really doing that with iOS on the iPad.
Also, if 16gb is the base version, oh man, how cheap can you be...
For 16GB comment, it's because they target enterprise, education and business. Have you ever seen an enterprise mobile device loaded with useless apps? I have my work iPhone and there're only some enterprise apps in there installed by corporate IT? I can actually use 9GB left in there for my own things...like pictures and such. However, companies don't allow users just to download any personal apps. Same for other businesses and schools, 16GB is more than enough already.
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To read the book? lol.
iPad Mini will soon vanish because it's cannibalized by iPhone 6+ and regular iPad. Apple didn't announce iPad Mini sale number, but I believe it's a pathetic number compared to regular iPad. I believe Apple will not refresh iPad Mini and will discontinue it eventually...maybe in 2-3 years.
I really want this "iPad Pro". The other day actually I was feeling like I would much enjoy a larger iPad then my 9.7 inch iPad. But I would also like some new features with the device. As mentioned previously in this thread a split screen would be really nice to have, and it would look great on the nice 12.9 inch screen.
And to all the people who say they want it to run OS X I am completely against it. Apple has built iOS to be their one and only touch/mobile operating system. They have built OS X to be their one and only desktop operating system. Breaking that system would be a horrible horrible thing.
And to all the people who say they want it to run OS X I am completely against it. Apple has built iOS to be their one and only touch/mobile operating system. They have built OS X to be their one and only desktop operating system. Breaking that system would be a horrible horrible thing.
So basically you want a down sized iPad Air 2 like the iPad mini 3 should have been? I find it really sad that Apple ****ed the iPad mini 3 even though I prefer larger iPads.
Yep.
Have an iPad 3, don't really have an incentive to upgrade at this point.
It works.
Can we not find a better picture than the out of proportion photo shown above that makes the iPad closer to a 15 inch model? I have ignored that picture as many times as possible!
So which one of you made a better mock up?
Inches are measured differently when using "Common Core"
That made me laugh... A lot. Now I'm going to do my common core math home work.
2+2=4.656247835673
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I do. My iPad 3 is slow. I beg it to go faster. It tells me piss off
Yeah, as long as the iPad is for basic tasks, the market won't expand too much. It's to the point that it can do all of the basic tasks that most people need. If Apple wants frequent upgraders then they need to target Pros and gamers. Admittedly it's not a huge market increase, but it's something. You also pick up the prosumer photographers and videographers who might switch to using tablets if they get good enough for professionals with regard to software and hardware. Then there's always those who will just buy it because it's the best and fastest, even though they don't need it.
If this thing slips too far there's no way it gets the A8X. The A9X in the iPad Air 3 would be faster than the iPad Pro just released a few months earlier. They might do a quad-core A8X at a higher frequency like 1.8GHz, but wouldn't that necessitate another model number? Like an A8XS? The iPad Air 3 might get a slight bump and maybe just call it an A9 and put a down-clocked version of that into the iPhone 6S, and then out the A9X in the Pro. But either way I don't see the iPad Pro getting an A8 anything if it's getting pushed back. If anything they might use the iPad Pro to launch the extreme version of their newest, fastest chips before widespread deployment in the other iPads and the iPhone, which is the big seller.
I hope there is a pressure and tilt sensitive display for us artists and designers. And if it's really going to be running full pro level apps, then even more RAM would be helpful, or at least some faster NAND with proper caching. Keep it smallish, 11-12" max, and a 16:10 ratio.
If this thing slips too far there's no way it gets the A8X. The A9X in the iPad Air 3 would be faster than the iPad Pro just released a few months earlier. They might do a quad-core A8X at a higher frequency like 1.8GHz, but wouldn't that necessitate another model number? Like an A8XS? The iPad Air 3 might get a slight bump and maybe just call it an A9 and put a down-clocked version of that into the iPhone 6S, and then out the A9X in the Pro. But either way I don't see the iPad Pro getting an A8 anything if it's getting pushed back. If anything they might use the iPad Pro to launch the extreme version of their newest, fastest chips before widespread deployment in the other iPads and the iPhone, which is the big seller.
I hope there is a pressure and tilt sensitive display for us artists and designers. And if it's really going to be running full pro level apps, then even more RAM would be helpful, or at least some faster NAND with proper caching. Keep it smallish, 11-12" max, and a 16:10 ratio.
Are there other large tablets
I understand iPhone 6 & 6+ was needed because consumers demanded larger screens on smartphones. The overwhelming iPhone 6 demand proves it.
But is there an unmet demand for large 12" tablets that competitors are making and Apple not ?
I don't think so. Am I missing something?
I understand iPhone 6 & 6+ was needed because consumers demanded larger screens on smartphones. The overwhelming iPhone 6 demand proves it.
But is there an unmet demand for large 12" tablets that competitors are making and Apple not ?
I don't think so. Am I missing something?
I think it would be a great device. My iPad doesn't normally leave the house any way. It would make my nice coach iPad even nicer!
With the looser thermals of the laptop (or even the bigger frame of a PRO) you'd get a major improvement in speed over the air2, especially with a switch to Finfet 14nm which allows greater current densities.
For the air laptop :
- The GPU on the Air2 is way underclocked (!8 cores, how slow is their clock!!), if they switch to finfet 14nm they'd a lot of speed without doing anything and then could more than double the clock and still stay cool and with relatively low power usage (because of the process). The GPU would then be close to 150% faster than the one you have now without improving anything else! With the new PowerVR 7 series coming on, the improvement would be even greater.
- The CPU could similarly have a major bump in power and efficiency without changing anything else to be up to 100% faster (less of clock bump probably possible on the CPU).
Anyone can do a bigger screen. They'll make it a bigger screen and 0.002mm thinner than original iPad. Just magically awesome.
There is no current demand, but there is an unmet need. Because all current solutions/tools are half assed or incomplete. Going for unmet needs is how you create a market.
That's the difference between Samsung and Apple. Both make money, but not the same way. Samsung is fantastic at rushing in when the market is blooming and crushing everyone that's not the market leader through marketing, distribution and manufacturing and blatant imitation / copying. They've done it other markets to, not just smart phones. It seems to work for them... At least for a while...
Trouble in Paradise...
If Apple are already pushing this new iPad Pro back to make way for an already *not enough units* of an iPhone 6 Plus, when do u think they will catch up with anything?
I call this "normal behavior" from now on, simply because we've seen delays time and time again. Either products pushed back, delayed because of Retina difficulties., or just 'we thought there would be enough, but demand grew'.
There Apple for crist sake.... They should know.
While it can happen any industry, the fact Apple products are popular, just makes this 100 times worse, since everyone wants one.
Apple need assistance, but I think they want to make do with what current suppliers they have, running them out of business by "too much sapphire" etc like we saw with GT.
Still, we'll see. I don't mind seeing the odd delays, or push backs, but every time ?
That's a sure enough pattern.
If Apple are already pushing this new iPad Pro back to make way for an already *not enough units* of an iPhone 6 Plus, when do u think they will catch up with anything?
I call this "normal behavior" from now on, simply because we've seen delays time and time again. Either products pushed back, delayed because of Retina difficulties., or just 'we thought there would be enough, but demand grew'.
There Apple for crist sake.... They should know.
While it can happen any industry, the fact Apple products are popular, just makes this 100 times worse, since everyone wants one.
Apple need assistance, but I think they want to make do with what current suppliers they have, running them out of business by "too much sapphire" etc like we saw with GT.
Still, we'll see. I don't mind seeing the odd delays, or push backs, but every time ?
That's a sure enough pattern.
