Think it would have to run OSX to do that. (Along with having the same capabilities)
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Think it would have to run OSX to do that. (Along with having the same capabilities)
Another iOS device... so what?
Really, I don't see the point in a bigger iPad.
Certified mac fan-boy, for 20+ years, and loving my Surface Pro. Started working for a Mac Software company, in the early 90s. Have always used a Mac, tho the point of negotiating it as my work system, in PC-based companies. Currently writing this on a new 27" iMac, with a MB Air beside it, and an iPhone 6 in my pocket. Yet, my Surface is starting to make sense.
iOS is great for content consumption, but not for Content creation. Sorry, I tried the whole keyboard on iPad thing, and it just doesn't float my boat. The Apple world seems to still be headed in the direction of having to own multiple devices, which doesn't excite me.
I recently bought a Surface Pro. yes, Windows 8 is still a bit rough at merging the two worlds together (Content Consumption and creation), but it;s getting better.
As a tablet - SP 3 is great. It's a bit big, but not uncomfortable. For the quick stuff, I still use my iPhone. But for videos and surfing, the SP 3 is great.
As a Laptop - Keyboard isn't as nice as my MB Air, but it's not horrible. Windows 8 is stable, and after I've gotten used to it, not that bad.
As a Desktop - Using the dock, I have two external 27" 2560x1440 monitors attached to it, along with the touch screen on the SP itself. It's as fast or faster than my MB Air, with and extra display attached.
But the biggest thing is that it's one device, for everything. All my files are there. My desktop is there. My software is there. Yes, switching between desktop and Metro is still a bit quirky, but it's getting better.
Point is, I have one device I can carry for casual stuff, like an iPad - yet, when an important work thing pops up, I can instantly switch into full-on work mode.
I initially laughed at Microsoft's approach at merging mobile and desktop into one OS, but I'm coning around to it. Actually, I'm starting to demand it.
I love my Macs, but frankly I could literally ditch my iMac, MB Air, and iPad for one SP3. While I may still buy another Mac desktop of portable, I really see no need for a larger IOS (content consumption) device, when I can get something about the same size that's also a full PC. Really, what's the point? How many IOS devices do I need?
Really, I don't see the point in a bigger iPad.
Certified mac fan-boy, for 20+ years, and loving my Surface Pro. Started working for a Mac Software company, in the early 90s. Have always used a Mac, tho the point of negotiating it as my work system, in PC-based companies. Currently writing this on a new 27" iMac, with a MB Air beside it, and an iPhone 6 in my pocket. Yet, my Surface is starting to make sense.
iOS is great for content consumption, but not for Content creation. Sorry, I tried the whole keyboard on iPad thing, and it just doesn't float my boat. The Apple world seems to still be headed in the direction of having to own multiple devices, which doesn't excite me.
I recently bought a Surface Pro. yes, Windows 8 is still a bit rough at merging the two worlds together (Content Consumption and creation), but it;s getting better.
As a tablet - SP 3 is great. It's a bit big, but not uncomfortable. For the quick stuff, I still use my iPhone. But for videos and surfing, the SP 3 is great.
As a Laptop - Keyboard isn't as nice as my MB Air, but it's not horrible. Windows 8 is stable, and after I've gotten used to it, not that bad.
As a Desktop - Using the dock, I have two external 27" 2560x1440 monitors attached to it, along with the touch screen on the SP itself. It's as fast or faster than my MB Air, with and extra display attached.
But the biggest thing is that it's one device, for everything. All my files are there. My desktop is there. My software is there. Yes, switching between desktop and Metro is still a bit quirky, but it's getting better.
Point is, I have one device I can carry for casual stuff, like an iPad - yet, when an important work thing pops up, I can instantly switch into full-on work mode.
I initially laughed at Microsoft's approach at merging mobile and desktop into one OS, but I'm coning around to it. Actually, I'm starting to demand it.
I love my Macs, but frankly I could literally ditch my iMac, MB Air, and iPad for one SP3. While I may still buy another Mac desktop of portable, I really see no need for a larger IOS (content consumption) device, when I can get something about the same size that's also a full PC. Really, what's the point? How many IOS devices do I need?
You have perfectly presented the demographic that is entirely comfortable using such a device with its compromises for the sake of not having to invest in or carry multiple devices. I think where apple is headed is in a direction where they will make such a device aimed at content creators and folks who are trying to substitute work comps for larger tablets, but for apple the compromise has to be very little or completely absent. Its just how they work imo...So perhaps next year they'll come out with a device which would be catered to the market, it would be lighter, thinner and more portable then the SP3 and would offer much more from a productivity point of view than the iPAD Air or Air2. This is the pattern that they have stuck, taking their good old time in figuring out what the market is doing and how they can remove some of those compromises..They did it with the smart phone, iOS and in the tablet...Given the sheer amount of space the iPad has occupied its logical that apple will now begin to pursue other categories where it can expand with the larger form factors. The iPad + or whatever they call it may not be identical to the SP3, and may not offer a hybrid in terms of OS but it may run some of the heavier applications that productivity users want, and may have the spec to boot...There is also plenty of stuff apple can do with the UX, smart keyboard and what not. They have patents to that end and I am sure they have invested a lot of money trying to figure out what the best mix of features would be that would cater to this particular market.
Yep....I want these "swinging" rumors to stop. These analysts come out with stuffs out of their ***.
Agreed...
But the odd thing is that there are few compromises. When it's in the dock, my SP3 is indistinguishable from 95% of the desktops out the, for most of what I do (I'm not a gamer). Really, it's a full-on PC, with zero compromises. It's guts are pretty much exactly the same as a MB Air, which works for what I do. As a laptop, there are times when I'd prefer a hard keyboard (eg. when typing on my lap), but I'm coming around to it. So yeah, that's a compromise. But one that could easily be resolved with a 3rd part peripheral (wish someone would make one).
As a tablet, I prefer IOS. But Win 8 is catching up, as a Mobile OS. Biggest problem is the death of apps, vs IOS.
If apple bridges that gap, as you suggest, I'd be interested. But not if it's another IOS device.
But the odd thing is that there are few compromises. When it's in the dock, my SP3 is indistinguishable from 95% of the desktops out the, for most of what I do (I'm not a gamer). Really, it's a full-on PC, with zero compromises. It's guts are pretty much exactly the same as a MB Air, which works for what I do. As a laptop, there are times when I'd prefer a hard keyboard (eg. when typing on my lap), but I'm coming around to it. So yeah, that's a compromise. But one that could easily be resolved with a 3rd part peripheral (wish someone would make one).
As a tablet, I prefer IOS. But Win 8 is catching up, as a Mobile OS. Biggest problem is the death of apps, vs IOS.
If apple bridges that gap, as you suggest, I'd be interested. But not if it's another IOS device.
Signed up just to respond to this: I trust Apple is capable of making a device that does both at the same time. The screen is an iPad, but it can dock with a keyboard/trackpad base that extends certain features.
For example: The iPad is replaceable over time. It houses the CPU (2 cores) and the GPU, workable amounts of RAM, a battery, and some SSD capabilities.
When you connect it to a replaceable base it extends the GPU and CPU power (think of SLi or CrossFire) regardless of its architecture. It also extends the HDD and RAM.
Disconnected: iOS.
Docked: OSX.
Content consumption when you use it as a tablet, and when you want to create things you just connect the two together.
I'd be more than willing to buy something like that.
Terrible "mock-up"
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PLEASE STOP USING THAT TERRIBLE "MOCK-UP."
The 13-inch Air has a 13.1-inch screen. A 12.9-inch screen would not be SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER than a 13.1-inch screen. The "mock-up" is ridiculous. Unless it's actually meant to be an 11-inch Air, the image makes no sense whatsoever.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PLEASE STOP USING THAT TERRIBLE "MOCK-UP."
The 13-inch Air has a 13.1-inch screen. A 12.9-inch screen would not be SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER than a 13.1-inch screen. The "mock-up" is ridiculous. Unless it's actually meant to be an 11-inch Air, the image makes no sense whatsoever.
It's eye catching. That's what journalism is all about...I guess. I remember many sites still using the very nice looking mockup of the iphone 6 with virtually no side bezels even when pictures of the phone shell had emerged.
From my experience, i did not like it as a tablet. Perhaps I use my tablet a lot when standing. As a MBp replacement (don't own an air) i did not find it that comfortable using it in bed for example where i can type much better with a proper laptop. I do understand however, why you may be different. For me in order to have a powerful device that would be a substitute for my laptop, i would want it as thin and portable as an iPad Air, light weight so that i can carry it around and use while standing (not placed on a table) and as a productivity device, fast enough where I can do some of the stuff I have to use my mBP for currently (For me thats limited to - Excel, Tableau etc)..Gestures and innovation in the case and keyboard would be great and I am sure apple can do this way way better then MS..But i do feel that it can certainly NOT be clunky, heavy so as to compromise pure tablet functionality especially given how much apple is looking forward to its partnership with Lenovo and designing enterprise driven applications.
BTW: Out of curiosity, can the SP3 connect to a workstation? Can I use it along 2 21 inch monitors etc?
Funny, Apple made some progress on that vision in the Early 90s, with the Duo. That was a machine ahead of its time. I've often wondered why nobody carried that forward, but doing it more as a cluster with additional resources shared when available.
Regarding the software, what you've painted make some sense. But we'd still be left with two OSs, with different applications. And I think that's where Apple is still headed.
Microsoft is also headed in that ballpark. The next build of Windows 10 will likely automatically sense whether there's a keyboard attached, and change the UI accordingly between Metro and desktop. But the biggest thing is that there will still be one underlying OS. Conceptually, there are just different shells overlaying it. And you will still be able to swap between the, manually. This, for me, is huge.
Regarding the software, what you've painted make some sense. But we'd still be left with two OSs, with different applications. And I think that's where Apple is still headed.
Microsoft is also headed in that ballpark. The next build of Windows 10 will likely automatically sense whether there's a keyboard attached, and change the UI accordingly between Metro and desktop. But the biggest thing is that there will still be one underlying OS. Conceptually, there are just different shells overlaying it. And you will still be able to swap between the, manually. This, for me, is huge.
Sigh.....
For the love of heck!
If only those fuggly thick top and bottom bezels served a REAL purpose like two sets of stereo and subs YEAH! Then I'd get 2 each for everyone in my life
Fail fail fail constantly with iPad.
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For the love of heck!
If only those fuggly thick top and bottom bezels served a REAL purpose like two sets of stereo and subs YEAH! Then I'd get 2 each for everyone in my life
Fail fail fail constantly with iPad.
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I'm using the SP 3 dock, which cost $199. But it includes a separate mini display port, as well as several USP 3 ports and a gig ethernet port and power adapter. Surprisingly, the pen holder is also nice... coming around to that stylus.
The SP3 supports two external displays, up to 2560x1440. I'm using two 27" ones. Only trick is that I have one plugged directly into the SP3, and the other into the dock. That would be unnecessary, if my displays were step daisy-chained, which my displays don't support... or at least I haven't gotten around to messing with that yet.
The SP3 supports two external displays, up to 2560x1440. I'm using two 27" ones. Only trick is that I have one plugged directly into the SP3, and the other into the dock. That would be unnecessary, if my displays were step daisy-chained, which my displays don't support... or at least I haven't gotten around to messing with that yet.
I am so sick and tired of this constant idea that an iPad is only suitable for content creation because it doesn't meet people's particular narrow vision of what a computer 'should' do. (Which is nearly always something extremely traditional and could be performed just as well on a 10 year old model as a brand new one).
The iPad has been popular precisely because it offers things that traditional computers don't!! I guess you must have your blinders on because millions of people are using iPads to do all sorts of 'real' work even if it isn't their 'only' computer. From sales forces to contractors to doctors to artists and photographers and musicians. There is a ton of content creation and work happening on iPads already.
I am so sick and tired of this constant idea that an iPad is only suitable for content creation because it doesn't meet people's particular narrow vision of what a computer 'should' do. (Which is nearly always something extremely traditional and could be performed just as well on a 10 year old model as a brand new one).
The iPad has been popular precisely because it offers things that traditional computers don't!! I guess you must have your blinders on because millions of people are using iPads to do all sorts of 'real' work even if it isn't their 'only' computer. From sales forces to contractors to doctors to artists and photographers and musicians. There is a ton of content creation and work happening on iPads already.
I think it's the type of work. I've mostly seen iPads used as a end-user device in which someone is either viewing something or entering basic data into a form. I've seen it used as menus at a restaurant, a complementary device to presentations, for example. I would say that creating content would definitely be more comfortable and easily done on a full blown computer.
Depends on the content you're creating. Some things are tailor fit for a stylus setup, while others obviously work better with a mouse/touchpad and keyboard.
The SP3 is an excellent fit for the former, but obviously a little lacking on the latter when you're on the go. It's like I've always said, the appeal of the SP3 depends on how much mileage you'll be getting out of the stylus.
Why would Apple make one product that replaces two? They're still a hardware company.
Neither the 6+ nor the iPad Air can replace a Mini. I hear this a lot but apparently from people who don't use tablets for reading. 6+ is fine for a portable reader but rather cramped. iPad Air has too low a pixel density resulting in pixelated text.
The more likely reason the Mini isn't selling is value. It's the most expensive tablet in that size range yet it has the worst display in that range. If it had the same quality display as an Air then it would be worth the premium cost and it would sell.
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Worst in what way? Color and such? Pixels are high yet there is far more then just that for a good display. Off to you tube to check.
While a bigger iPad is more useful it's not enough to get people to upgrade. This product begs for a digitizer pen and hybrid design that has a detachable keyboard with trackpad. Ultimate if it has a hybrid x86-64 CPU plus SoC so it can run OS X and iOS simultaneously in multi-window.
That. The Mini screen covers something like 70% of the sRGB spectrum, while the screen in the Air comes in around the high 90-somethings. Some people here say that doesn't make a difference to the average person, and they might be right, but if you were to put the Mini and the Air side by side, each showing the same picture, you'd see the difference in contrast.
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