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If it’s the same display tech that they put in their pro XDR display, then count me in. Otherwise I’ll wait for OLED.

Hopefully at a smaller scale the technology will be more refined. The XDR still struggles with poor gray uniformity and blooming. It’s just the nature of local dimming zones. I believe the XDR display is overpriced for what it is. I can’t see Apple leapfrogging from mini led to oled. This is a rumor I really dislike and it really makes me upset every time I see it.
 
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Why? Mini LED is worse in most ways than OLED. What would be the point?
OLED’s apparently not up to their standards for larger devices. Production is also extremely difficult in larger sizes, seeing as LG is still the only manufacturer of OLED television panels. (Vizio and Sony are using LG’s panels for their OLED TV’s.)
 


Apple's 12.9-inch iPad Pro with Mini-LED display will launch in the first quarter of 2021, according to a new report from DigiTimes. The report claims that Apple has diversified its supply chain for displays and touch panels, with BOE finally gaining approval to supply OLED panels for the iPhone and GIS moving to provide touch panels for both the iPhone and the upcoming iPad Pro.

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Apple has been rumored for some time to be preparing a 12.9-inch iPad Pro with a Mini-LED display, which will offer a number of improvements over current iPad displays, including darker blacks, brighter brights, richer colors, and better contrast. Using thousands of individual LEDs to light the display, the technology should deliver many of the benefits offered by OLED displays but without some of the drawbacks of that technology.

Previous reports, including from noted analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, have indicated that the Mini-LED iPad Pro will launch sometime in the first half of 2021, but today's report from DigiTimes indicates that the debut is expected in the early part of that timeframe.

Looking beyond the next-generation iPad Pro, there have been a couple of reports claiming that Apple is looking to transition the line to OLED display technology, although it seems unlikely for Apple to only briefly shift to Mini-LED before transitioning again to OLED. One rumor claimed the OLED iPad Pro will launch in the second half of 2021, but a more recent report claims the change is unlikely to happen until 2022 at the earliest.

Article Link: 12.9-Inch iPad Pro With Mini-LED Display Rumored to Launch in First Quarter of 2021
Sounds amazing definitely looking forward to it.
 
I'm updating all my mobile devices when everything is notch free and full OLED. Until then I'm taming my consumer whoring.
 
You’d rather have a worse image so as to avoid burn-in that nobody is complaining about?

There has been oled iPhones for only a bit over 3 years. That's a short time compared to how long people use their iPads and Macbooks.
 
Mini LED uses around a thousand individual LED’s, so in theory they should be individually dimmable by voltage rather than PWM.

PWM can be used to dim LCD displays as well; however, it’s a cost-saving alternative to a voltage-based brightness controller.
LEDs are constant voltage, so you’d control the brightness by controlling the current. Most adjustable voltage or current DC supplies are really just some sort of variable duty cycle switch (ie. PWM) feeding a filter stage to smooth the ripple. It might be worth filtering the supply to a single backlight array, but for a mini-LED type display you’d presumably need a thousand filters. The filter usually involves some sort of inductive component to smooth the current, and inductors tend to be bulky.

Maybe there’s another way to do it...
 
The video quality on an iPad is truly awful. Pictures look great, but video is awful.
 
There has been oled iPhones for only a bit over 3 years. That's a short time compared to how long people use their iPads and Macbooks.

There have been oled samsung phones, using nearly identical panels, for longer than that. And, again, nobody is complaining about burn-in.

And we are talking about iPhones, not MacBooks and ipads. The poster wanted to replace oled in iphones with miniLED.
 
LEDs are constant voltage, so you’d control the brightness by controlling the current. Most adjustable voltage or current DC supplies are really just some sort of variable duty cycle switch (ie. PWM) feeding a filter stage to smooth the ripple. It might be worth filtering the supply to a single backlight array, but for a mini-LED type display you’d presumably need a thousand filters. The filter usually involves some sort of inductive component to smooth the current, and inductors tend to be bulky.

Maybe there’s another way to do it...

Smoothing the current waveform typically causes nasty color shift, too.
 
There have been oled samsung phones, using nearly identical panels, for longer than that. And, again, nobody is complaining about burn-in.

And we are talking about iPhones, not MacBooks and ipads. The poster wanted to replace oled in iphones with miniLED.

My friends who play Pokemon Go have had a pokeball permanently imprinted on their Samsung displays after only like a year of usage. But that was a few years ago, it may be better now. Generally people don't use their Android phones for over 2 to 3 years.

And yes I thought the discussion was about iPads as per the original article, but I didn't follow this reply chain well enough. I'd love to see oled panels on any Apple device too provided they don't degrade over time and don't get too expensive.
 
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There have been oled samsung phones, using nearly identical panels, for longer than that. And, again, nobody is complaining about burn-in.

And we are talking about iPhones, not MacBooks and ipads. The poster wanted to replace oled in iphones with miniLED.
Are you suggesting people have been using the same OLED Samsung device as a daily driver for 10 years? Cause that seems highly unlikely and I expect 8-12 years of functional use from a laptop.
 
Are you suggesting people have been using the same OLED Samsung device as a daily driver for 10 years? Cause that seems highly unlikely and I expect 8-12 years of functional use from a laptop.

1) nobody is talking about laptops. The very message you quoted explained that my response was to the suggestion that *iphones* should replace OLED with miniLED. iPhones are not laptops.

2) nobody said anything about 10 years. But, in any event, AMOLED has been used in phones since 2007, and there hasn’t been a rash of burn-in complaints.

And to be clear, since apparently saying it multiple times is insufficient, once again, I am talking about *phones.* Not laptops, not ipads. Phones.
 
I totally agree that way you don't have that issue of potential burn in
I honestly don’t think people understand how ‘burn-in (image retention) works. Have you ever even observed a case with Burn-in on any of the iPhones with OLED panels since the iPhone X? I haven’t. It’s more prevalent on like LG TV’s for example, even with the most minor case of image retention, it’s barely noticeable. The most severe cases are generally in the middle of the display, even though it’s not common.
 
If it’s the same display tech that they put in their pro XDR display, then count me in. Otherwise I’ll wait for OLED.
I predict the display marketing name will be called "Super Pro (?) XDR Display" as opposed to Pro Display XDR, which is used for the Mac Pro display.

The OLED displays used in the iPhone 12's are called "Super Retina XDR Display"

Thoughts?
 
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