That is a good jump and to me is important, more so than some of these other features…from these posts I’m now leaning to waiting but with more research or unless of course the 12 goes belly up but it’s seems very good still
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Other 12PM to 16PM..no, it’s not, 17 is the one
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Nothing I care bout and don’t put in upgrade column
Sounds like you should just keep your 12PM and wait for the 17 then. The 12PM should see at least another 2 iOS upgrades so you'll be fine for at least the next 3 years as far as iOS upgrades and security updates go.
I have a 13 pro and could easily wait a year or more to upgrade as battery still 90%. Rumors have it that the 16 will have (much?) improved audio, so I may spring for the 16. Does anyone have any validation on how much improvement can be expected? I am hard of hearing, so audio quality boost would be significant for me.
You don't need to say PM when you are doing military time... wait, what thread am I in?
The only thing attracting me to the new Pro phones is the titanium case.
The 12Pro is an amazing phone, but heavy as a brick.
EDIT: People have pointed out that the 15Pro/PM is basically as heavy as the 12Pro/PM, so my observation above about titanium is pointless. Sadly these phones are super heavy.
The 12Pro is an amazing phone, but heavy as a brick.
EDIT: People have pointed out that the 15Pro/PM is basically as heavy as the 12Pro/PM, so my observation above about titanium is pointless. Sadly these phones are super heavy.
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You should have upgraded back when iPhone 13 series was introduced and waited for 5 or even 10 years before upgrading... The iPhone 12 series is one of the lowest point in terms of battery life and new technology [5G]...
Exactly my thoughts as well. I was never going to upgrade from my 15PM this year anyway, and I'm running AI with 18.1 Dev beta and while it's got some nice-to-have features, so far, it's nothing to spend a lot of money for. If that's the big marketing push for Apple and the iPhone 16 and 16 Pro this year, people will be as impressed as we were with the 5G push...which is to say totally underwhelmed for most areas of the U.S.
What are you all going to do with Apple Intelligence?
It doesn’t seem particularly useful for non-productivity purposes. It is like all the different AI language models in existence, they’re quite impressive but they aren’t (in this present day) going to change my life for better or worse or have an impact on my phone habits.
What’s the game changer for normal iPhone users?
Genuine question.
It’s like Dynamic Island. It’s nice, it’s different. What does it do to improve my quality of life? Don’t know!
Are iPhone 16 users going to utilise Apple Intelligence? The realistic answer to that is no.
It’s a very niche new feature and will likely be as useful as the Touch Bar on the MacBook.
It doesn’t seem particularly useful for non-productivity purposes. It is like all the different AI language models in existence, they’re quite impressive but they aren’t (in this present day) going to change my life for better or worse or have an impact on my phone habits.
What’s the game changer for normal iPhone users?
Genuine question.
It’s like Dynamic Island. It’s nice, it’s different. What does it do to improve my quality of life? Don’t know!
Are iPhone 16 users going to utilise Apple Intelligence? The realistic answer to that is no.
It’s a very niche new feature and will likely be as useful as the Touch Bar on the MacBook.
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Well, if you’re not in a hurry… the 17 will always be the better one. In fact, it will be Apple’s ‘best iPhone ever’. 😊
12 Pro Weight : 6.66 ounces (189 grams)
15 Pro Weight : 6.60 ounces (187 grams)
You can tell the difference between 2 grams?
The 16Pro will be a little heavier than your 12Pro since it will have a slightly larger display. Even the 15Pro is basically the same weight as your 12Pro.
12Pro: 6.66 ounces (189 grams)
15Pro: 6.60 ounces (187 grams)
16Pro: 6.84 ounces (194 grams) is what we are being told so far
However, rumors are saying the 17Pro will be going back to aluminum and if true we might finally get a much lighter weight Pro phone.
Personally, I would definitely switch to the 16 if I was no longer happy with my iPhone 12 Pro. But it seems like you are still happy with your current phone. So I would wait for the iPhone 17 because all camera lenses are supposed to get an upgrade and it will get the anti-reflective display like the S 24 Ultra. For me, these two reasons even speak in favor of keeping the phone for longer than the iPhone 12. Because at the end of the day, we all want the best cameras and displays. After that, I don't know what Apple should improve on the display and camera. The bigger innovations will then apply to the iPhone for its 20th anniversary.
PS. Apple Intelligence will be bugless and more polished in the middle of the 16 cycle I guess. When that’s happening the 17 is around the corner
Im the end you decide
PS. Apple Intelligence will be bugless and more polished in the middle of the 16 cycle I guess. When that’s happening the 17 is around the corner
Im the end you decide
I find that upgrading each year, and trading in my prior year model (I buy them outright), is the best practice. My coat is usually $400-$500. I prefer this budget hit to a new one once my old has little value. I think $1+ is well worth the annual upgrades.
Hundreds of thousands make their living on knowing the difference
They are dropping the Titanium that fast? Titanium isn't much heavier if at all over aluminum in the size of content of an iPhone case is it? I will say, I am impressed with how light my dad's 15 Plus is compared to my 15 Pro Max. I thought maybe that was due to the camera module
Early rumors for the 17 series are saying the Pro will be Aluminum but the Pro Max will still be Titanium. Nothing is definite at this point of course. It has been mentioned in articles on this site though. I agree there is a big weight difference still between the 15 Plus and Pro Max, the camera has to add some weight but I wonder how much of the weight difference comes from the camera and how much from the Titanium.
My upgrade plan below and why...
I was planning to upgrade from 13pro to 16pro, mainly as I felt it was slowly starting to show its age in terms of battery degradation but also that the 5G network are much more available now and I want a phone that can utilize that more efficient.
But, after the 17.6 update and a somewhat, what it seems like, improved battery-life. I might keep it for another year. Well see how it goes and how desperate other family members are in need of a "new" device (my 13 pro) :-D
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What bugs from the 15's design and materials are you referring to? I'm holding off for the 17, but I had upgraded every year since 2013.
I upgrade every 6-7 years. Went from 7 plus to 13 PM. Will probably upgrade to iPhone 19 PM or 20. If the phone is paid and going strong, keep it.
I’m no AI expert, but many of Apple Intelligence’s announced features seem a lot more useful than ChatGPT et al. I don’t really need something to write a book report or draw a picture of a twelve-fingered person for me, but being reminded about emails that mention deadlines without having to manually create reminders, or asking Maps to grab an address from a screenshot received by Messages instead of pulling over to highlight, copy and paste—if that sort of intelligence works as promised, it will usefully reduce the effort and friction in everyday tasks. Heck, Siri being able to work through an “uhh” or a correction is a killer feature by itself!
I agree that there are many little things that Apple AI will make doing things on the phone easier.
I will say though, that I find ChatGPT highly useful. In fact, my entire workflow has changed for the better due to it. But that's very task specific I think. It's also still wrong more often than it should be and users really need to understand that, but it almost feels like moving from a typewriter to a word processor.
I have a 13 Pro Max and I am so ready to upgrade.
Despite battery health stating 90% my phone does, fast. Like half a day. Didn’t used to.
Screen seems harder/dimmer in daylight.
Even on an 80 degree summer day in limited use the phone gets massively hot and the screen dims even more. (Sometimes to nearly black.)
Ready for the new-new.
Despite battery health stating 90% my phone does, fast. Like half a day. Didn’t used to.
Screen seems harder/dimmer in daylight.
Even on an 80 degree summer day in limited use the phone gets massively hot and the screen dims even more. (Sometimes to nearly black.)
Ready for the new-new.