We don’t because the ecosystem and user experience is (at least for me) main thing. Hardware is just one part of it. I’m using iPhone 11 (regular) which suits my hardware needs fine.
I’m waiting for 18. But it’s likely to only be incremental so I’ll just wait for the 19.So it’s all set…all 12’s are waiting for 17? 😉 It’s looking that way.
Ya this pretty much solidifies our choice to wait. Thanks.- Apple Intelligence (already mentioned by several people)
- Connect directly to USB-C storage device
- Emergency SOS
- Limit battery charging to 80%, 85%, 90%, or 95%
- Check battery cycle count
12 Pro Weight : 6.66 ounces (189 grams)
15 Pro Weight : 6.60 ounces (187 grams)
You can tell the difference between 2 grams?
Honestly my battery lasts easily for me all day with about 40% left….there is one thing I run my phone all the time with night shift on, I like the subtle tint look much betterMy wife is on a 12 pro and I think she will wait for a 17. Maybe she gets a battery replacement.
It’s just logical to eat dinner at 17 “PM” if you’ve already eaten lunch at 12PM. 4 hours isn’t really enough time for all that food to settle.So it’s all set…all 12’s are waiting for 17? 😉 It’s looking that way.
Im waiting for 31I am a regular 13 user and I am waiting for the 20 or 21.
So it’s all set…all 12’s are waiting for 17? 😉 It’s looking that way.
Apple intelligence says hello?It’s a mostly insignificant upgrade. You’re getting a faster device with an all round improvement regarding the hardware but it is incremental.
There’s pretty much nothing a 16 can do that a 12 can’t.
And how is having the ChatGPT app integrated into iOS a big enough innovation to spur on an upgrade? LLMs are pretty useless to the majority of phone users who use their devices for non-work purposes… even folk who use language models use them on PCs because it’s almost impossible to optimise your workflow on a phone.Apple intelligence says hello?
So at what percentage would you say is when it cant last all day based on your usage...I realize that there will be some differences between users but within 10% I would think .....70%? Im thinking mine because of using night mode all day will be less percentageMy 12 ProMax battery is at 89%, got a scare a couple weeks ago when it just didn't seem to be able to hold a charge all day. But it turned out to be some sort of fluke and it is back to usual, lasts all day and recharges in a couple hours in the morning (not a heavy phone user at all here).
So, no plans to upgrade until the battery can't make it through a day. The new phones don't interest me... a better camera would be nice, but not something I need. And the AI stuff is something I just don't want. BTW, I frequently see ads for some discount cell service (available at WalMart, evidently) that includes an iPhone 12 as part of a package deal, always makes me chuckle a bit.![]()
So at what percentage would you say is when it cant last all day based on your usage...
If you don’t know the difference between on device and chat gpt AI you’re missing the pointAnd how is having the ChatGPT app integrated into iOS a big enough innovation to spur on an upgrade? LLMs are pretty useless to the majority of phone users who use their devices for non-work purposes… even folk who use language models use them on PCs because it’s almost impossible to optimise your workflow on a phone.
The 12 supports the ChatGPT app therefore the 12 can do “pretty much” everything the 16 can do.